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  • HypeRNT
    Rookie
    • Apr 2016
    • 368

    #1

    So can we go back to basics with Ultimate Team now?

    So since this year was a let down in that department and have seen countless threads stating the same thing, can we get rid of roster fighters and go back to how Ultimate Team used to be? Created Caf's only.... since we have roster fighters in EVERY other mode....

    Can we go back to our fundamentals? Back to focusing on unique things to plug into your caf, unique entrances, taunts, and movelists that are not based on roster fighters?

    Dont need to see 1 billion Conor's in the game, thats not what makes MUT unique and fun.
  • TheGentlemanGhost
    MVP
    • Jun 2016
    • 1321

    #2
    Re: So can we go back to basics with Ultimate Team now?

    I was probably playing UT 60/40 compared to Ranked in UFC 2, now it's 5/95. Why do I need to capture a CAF card to play as a CAF now? And it's been nearly impossible to get them! I have pretty much abandoned the mode with only 3 cafs and two of them are LW anyway. That's the only way I play, I don't want roster skins at all, so I've basically given up on it.

    It was a terrible idea to not only add the roster skins but also make it so hard to get a CAF. You'd think having your own CAF would be the focus of this mode still, but nope, apparently not. It was a HUGE misstep that took away what was actual unique about the mode.

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    • HereticFighter
      Rookie
      • May 2018
      • 421

      #3
      Re: So can we go back to basics with Ultimate Team now?

      Agreed. I've even seen a bunch of people playing ufc2 UT lately because they'd rather play that UT.

      I have a 4 star CAF i got from one of the summer camp things or something, i've barely played with it. I got a 'balanced' fighter, and i just found i was only adding high level versions of basic moves; jab, cross, upper etc. With so few slots to add moves he still just feels so stripped down and so lacking.

      That really kills it for me more than anything else. I have no reason to keep grinding away. UFC 2 i was still perfecting my moveset, always picking fights in the live events trying to get the moves of the night. I haven't played UT in months now.

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      • jdeckelmansr
        Rookie
        • Nov 2017
        • 63

        #4
        Re: So can we go back to basics with Ultimate Team now?

        Hopefully, in UFC 4, we get UFC 2's UT with the added offline mode. CAF's only. Get rid of everything else. We don't need 3-4 variations of the same fighter. Let get back to the basic fundamentals. Create your CAF, set up moves, get cards/packs to upgrade your moves and fight. They should not have tried to recreate wheel...just balance it.
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        • HereticFighter
          Rookie
          • May 2018
          • 421

          #5
          Re: So can we go back to basics with Ultimate Team now?

          Yeah it should be a simple fix, it seems like we all liked UT in UFC2. We all like CAF only, and I liked how at first you could have TONS of moves but as you got higher level you had to be strategic with their placement since you could total 252 stars instead of few fixed move slots.

          Copy, paste ufc 2 UT and i'd be happy honestly.

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          • SteveM584
            Rookie
            • Feb 2018
            • 146

            #6
            Re: So can we go back to basics with Ultimate Team now?

            Agreed. Played about 10 minutes of UT in 3. Had a lot of fun with it in 2.

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            • ragreynolds
              Rookie
              • Sep 2017
              • 264

              #7
              Re: So can we go back to basics with Ultimate Team now?

              The one thing that I think is better with this iteration of Ultimate Team is how we don’t have any maxed out fighters. I hated how in UFC 2 UT you could end up facing guys with a 100 overall that had zero weaknesses. For all the issues I have with UFC 3 UT, I am at least happy that no fighter really feels super OP or as if they have no weaknesses at all. I would argue that strikers certainly have a huge and unfair advantage over grapplers though.

              But yeah, give us the UFC 2 UT. CAFs only, but put some limits on the stats depending on fight style.

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              • ZombieRommel
                EA Game Changer
                • Apr 2016
                • 659

                #8
                Re: So can we go back to basics with Ultimate Team now?

                Yeah I never really understood the concept of adding roster fighter skins and thought it was lame that someone could for instance get a Conor skin and make him into an uber-wrestler like Khabib. I did voice that to the devs also.

                I think the devs were trying to bleed in some concepts from other traditional sports games' UT modes (Madden etc), but fighting is a very singular and unique thing, so I think the attempt fell flat.

                I used to play some UT in UFC2 thanks to the hilarity of the CAFs, but yeah, I never play it now.
                Last edited by ZombieRommel; 11-08-2018, 09:12 AM.
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                • ragreynolds
                  Rookie
                  • Sep 2017
                  • 264

                  #9
                  Re: So can we go back to basics with Ultimate Team now?

                  Originally posted by ZombieRommel
                  Yeah I never really understood the concept of adding roster fighter skins and thought it was lame that someone could for instance get a Conor skin and make him into an uber-wrestler like Khabib. I did voice that to the devs also.

                  I think the devs were trying to bleed in some concepts from other traditional sports games' UT modes (Madden etc), but fighting is a very singular and unique thing, so I think the attempt fell flat.

                  I used to play some UT in UFC2 thanks to the hilarity of the CAFs, but yeah, I never play it now.
                  I agree with you, and I hate the fact you can use fighter skins rather than CAFs, but I wouldn’t say it’s really possible in UFC 3 UT to turn someone like Conor into a great wrestler. The fighters you get have an assigned style, and Conor is a striker. This means he is limited when it comes to how many grappling cards he can have applied to him. Same goes for wrestlers when it comes to striking. It also means that there’s a yuge stat differential when he comes up against someone who is a grappler and he applied grappling cards.

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                  • HereticFighter
                    Rookie
                    • May 2018
                    • 421

                    #10
                    Re: So can we go back to basics with Ultimate Team now?

                    Originally posted by ragreynolds
                    I agree with you, and I hate the fact you can use fighter skins rather than CAFs, but I wouldn’t say it’s really possible in UFC 3 UT to turn someone like Conor into a great wrestler. The fighters you get have an assigned style, and Conor is a striker. This means he is limited when it comes to how many grappling cards he can have applied to him. Same goes for wrestlers when it comes to striking. It also means that there’s a yuge stat differential when he comes up against someone who is a grappler and he applied grappling cards.
                    there was a bizarro world set of challenges and packs that had different versions of fighters. Conor as a grappler, damian maia striker etc.

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                    • fballturkey
                      MVP
                      • Jul 2011
                      • 2370

                      #11
                      Re: So can we go back to basics with Ultimate Team now?

                      I really hope so. UFC2’s UT was one of very few UT type modes that I really enjoyed. 3 I haven’t touched since I saw what it was in the first week.

                      As much as we give EA a hard time for making minor evolutions instead of big revolutions here they took a thing that worked and broke it.

                      At the end of the day it’ll be the money though. Did more people buy packs chasing Conor? If so we’ll get more of the same.
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                      • TheGentlemanGhost
                        MVP
                        • Jun 2016
                        • 1321

                        #12
                        Re: So can we go back to basics with Ultimate Team now?

                        I can't believe how you not only have fish for CAFs, but also hope to get one that suits your style. Esp since grappling is not the easiest thing to do, esp for me.

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                        • TheGentlemanGhost
                          MVP
                          • Jun 2016
                          • 1321

                          #13
                          Re: So can we go back to basics with Ultimate Team now?

                          Threads like this aren't even getting as much attention likely because everyone's abandoned it this time. Makes me laugh in misery, I gave it a go today and actually played against other CAFs when I could find a match. I still only play with my two CAF guys. I cannot state enough just how awful of an idea it was to have to get CAF cards which seem to be extremely rare and deciding to primarily go with using roster skins/fighters instead...AWFUL! Nobody played this mode to see or use roster fighters.


                          The slots for move sets and abilities didn't really do anything. The handicap is too ridiculous, esp for wrestlers who only get what...? 4 striking moves basically along with the ratings boost for those slots. EA really needs to just go back to the old way and do something else to make sure players can't just max everything out.



                          Real rough for UT this game, but on the positive side, you know they are going to fix it next year since it is their money mode.

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                          • oshighwayman
                            Rookie
                            • Apr 2016
                            • 357

                            #14
                            Re: So can we go back to basics with Ultimate Team now?

                            i will just copy n paste this from other topic because it s relevant to UT


                            one more thing why UT DOESNT HAVE connection quality indicator like Ranked have? ...



                            Originally posted by oshighwayman
                            hi sir, thanks for coming here, here s my beef with u:


                            u talk about changes (nerfs) to spear TD, driving TD on twitter, thinking aloud for example if 1sec reaction time for spear TD is too much etc.


                            as a UT div 4 players (i dont play ranked ever) i can say with no prejudice, UT is total striker biased thing-
                            for example from 14 champions in sets, most are balanced, striker or brawler, from what i know only grapplers are GSP, Khabib, Woodley, DC, i am not sure if recently added Jon Jones is specialist or balanced, so if i personally like specialist there s 1 or none in champions sets in UT


                            now i am downloading 20gb of UFC2 to read description of Ground Defense stats, because what i barely remember was something about arm traps, bridges etc. i think that stats influenced denials too


                            why i am mentioning this?


                            u guys didnt give specialists, grapplers enough stand up slots, so i can be reading on this forum topics from RomeroXVII talking about TDs after sucessful slips etc. but number on stand up slots for grapplers and low default standup stats make it impossible to use


                            for example my elite Yoel Romero grappler got 5 standup slots, his default standup is like everything 70 except footwork which is 74.


                            some golden cards for example J.Moraga specialist got 4 standup slots, Oliviera, Mendes, Reis only 3 standup slots.


                            it s interesting that champions from sets or some fighters from events got more standup slots or sometimes they dont


                            Zombie specialist Jon Jones elite has 5 standup slots
                            TOTY Joel Romero grappler has 5
                            NO LOVE grappler Chael Sonnen has 7 standup slots
                            NO LOVE specialist Ronda Rousey has 7
                            i think 7 slots got also Ortiz from No Love too


                            i think 7 slots it s fine, but for 5 for elite is just too low imho and 3 or 4 slots for golden cards it s just borderline unfairm when specialist/grappler has to face McGregors in UT which got maxed PWR, SPD even on their golden card


                            that s why i put cards into footwork and speed, so i can get a away and do some lunges and try some TD


                            problem here is while u re guys so focused on top players, Ranked etc. ur UT mode is suppose to be money making machine.
                            i dont know how u want to achieve that, when i can tell from my matchmaking that there s just not enough people playing UT right now


                            i never had problem with MM in ufc2 UT, in ufc3 UT i am constantly getting message that game couldnt find anyone


                            u re worring about 1 sec window on spear TD, but u re worrying about how that affects Ranked, their got their connection quality indicator, we got nothing in UT, we cant deny matches in UT, so when i play UT and i got some lagger from Russia or from where and game is choppy as hell and he can queue whatever he wants in lag thanks to great combo queue, it s really painful


                            spear TD 1sec window i would say it s not enough in UT laggy environment, and i dont like driving TD changes either


                            ufc2 downloaded, let s see:

                            Ground Defense: Improves bridging transitions, blocking and trapping arm effectiveness.


                            Top game- controls speed of all ground passess and defensive counters from the top.


                            off the back- controls speed of all ground transitions (passes, sweeps) and defensive counters from the bottom.




                            now ufc 3:


                            top game- determines speed of top transitions and reversals.
                            bottom game- determines speed of bottom transitions, sweeps, and reversals.


                            there s no Ground defense stat anymore. so i dont know what happened here,


                            but i hope it s my correct understanding that in UFC 2 u have to had something in Ground Defense to get succesful arm traps, denies, while in UFC3 striker with no ground stats, can just deny or arm trap like he s BJJ, wrestler pro.


                            that s ridiculous. i made one topic about Ground Defense asking where this stat dissappear but i never got any answer, so i just want to say all of this secrecy about game needs to stop, because there s nothing more frustrating that not knowing what the heck is going on, i dont know if EA SPORTS doesnt want to spend money on tutorials and are just about pleasing shareholders, but this is driving people away from game too


                            it would be nice if UT players wont be treated like some second rate customers and balancing focus wont be just on Ranked and catering to top players all the time. what works for div 7,8 doesnt work for div 4.

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                            • Tyeanisbae
                              Rookie
                              • Jul 2018
                              • 128

                              #15
                              Re: So can we go back to basics with Ultimate Team now?

                              The only thing they had to do for ultimate team was at more customisation and ways to grind to get it and people woulda been happy

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