Only way to stop a takedown is to predeny-Subs vs ai are broken.

[ERsports]

Absolutely tested these vs the ai and thr denial windows for transitions and takedowns need to be opened up quite a bit......Subs are impossible vs the ai both to execute and defend.....Really wish they would bring simple subs back with punch, chain, and slam prompts implemented into the tap system....Could actually watch the subs play out again instead of these stupid screen filling meters.

[johnmangala]

Quote: Originally Posted by ERsports

Absolutely tested these vs the ai and thr denial windows for transitions and takedowns need to be opened up quite a bit......Subs are impossible vs the ai both to execute and defend.....Really wish they would bring simple subs back with punch, chain, and slam prompts implemented into the tap system....Could actually watch the subs play out again instead of these stupid screen filling meters.

I agree simple sub over the new mini games.

[BQ32]

Pre denying is actually the only way to stop a takedown from any fighter. It is absolutely absurd and broken atm.

[oilersfan365]

Quote: Originally Posted by johnmangala

I agree simple sub over the new mini games.

The gate breaking mini game is better than what we have in ufc 4

[Falseperception]

by far the worst sub system ive seen in any game . mma wrestling anything. Ive played the beta ALOT and I can say there are issues in the game but this is broken and is the first thing that needs to be addressed. At the very least it needs to be harder for the offensive player to get a sub. If I go for a sub online I win. If someone gets a sub on me they win. Thats shows its not a issue on my end. Its the system. Please fix this

[metodman39]

Quote: Originally Posted by oilersfan365

The gate breaking mini game is better than what we have in ufc 4

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[giro160]

Quote: Originally Posted by Falseperception

by far the worst sub system ive seen in any game . mma wrestling anything. Ive played the beta ALOT and I can say there are issues in the game but this is broken and is the first thing that needs to be addressed. At the very least it needs to be harder for the offensive player to get a sub. If I go for a sub online I win. If someone gets a sub on me they win. Thats shows its not a issue on my end. Its the system. Please fix this

Easy to escape submission,you must start on your left(if you are left angle)and rotate show the controller

You can see video on youtube,i not possible to put link here
You must search on youtube:
Ufc 4 escape submission
And see the video,very very easy after same pratice

[RyanFitzmagic]

I have no idea what people are talking about as far as only being able to deny takedowns by pre-denying. Maybe you're too used to UFC 3?