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  • 1212headkick
    Banned
    • Mar 2018
    • 1824

    #1

    4 games in and only one new position?

    So did you just completely disregard everything we asked for - for the last four years? While mobility was added to the clinch so much was taken away like just being able to transition to overunders or double unders. And the piece we need to blend striking and grappling together isnt there. Cage seated
    Last edited by 1212headkick; 07-15-2020, 10:56 PM.
  • tissues250
    MVP
    • Apr 2016
    • 1532

    #2
    Re: 4 games in and only one new position?

    Originally posted by GameplayDevUFC
    They definitely hate double under hooks and being pinned against the cage unable to do anything.

    They hate that a lot.
    Here is answer. They mean casual fans.

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    • 1212headkick
      Banned
      • Mar 2018
      • 1824

      #3
      Re: 4 games in and only one new position?

      So we just are waisting our time here?

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      • Counter Punch
        Pro
        • Apr 2018
        • 952

        #4
        Re: 4 games in and only one new position?

        Originally posted by tissues250
        Here is answer. They mean casual fans.
        GPD said that if it weren’t for the casual fans buying the game, it wouldn’t exist.

        So I guess that means two things:

        1) That the alternative is having no UFC game at all
        2) That the more casuals are brought on board, the bigger the budget will get, and eventually we may have a chance to have some more sim/realistic gameplay options. It’s clear after nearly 4 iterations that’s not gonna happen until the game gets a bigger budget.

        It’s a super tough pill to swallow. It upsets me greatly, but I get it. I personally believe deep down inside that a more sim game would sell and that difficulty and complexity isn’t automatically a turn off for gamers if it’s a rewarding experience. But EA feels a different way, and until this game can grow, we are never gonna be satisfied with what we get.
        ...precision beats power and timing beats speed... and realism beats meta.

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        • WarMMA
          MVP
          • Apr 2016
          • 4618

          #5
          Re: 4 games in and only one new position?

          Man idk...just makes you wonder. But its reasons like these why I really wish THQ didnt go under and why I still keep UD3 around. Its still to early to say, but it may just go down as the G.O.A.T. If EA puts out a 4th title and still cant put UD3 to rest, then i honestly dnt kno what to think. Still early though...lets.wait and see first.

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          • Phillyboi207
            Banned
            • Apr 2012
            • 3167

            #6
            Re: 4 games in and only one new position?

            Originally posted by Counter Punch
            GPD said that if it weren’t for the casual fans buying the game, it wouldn’t exist.

            So I guess that means two things:

            1) That the alternative is having no UFC game at all
            2) That the more casuals are brought on board, the bigger the budget will get, and eventually we may have a chance to have some more sim/realistic gameplay options. It’s clear after nearly 4 iterations that’s not gonna happen until the game gets a bigger budget.

            It’s a super tough pill to swallow. It upsets me greatly, but I get it. I personally believe deep down inside that a more sim game would sell and that difficulty and complexity isn’t automatically a turn off for gamers if it’s a rewarding experience. But EA feels a different way, and until this game can grow, we are never gonna be satisfied with what we get.
            You let me know of a single game that focused on casuals and looped back around to make things “more realistic”

            Once casual online/mobile gamers become the target the vast majority of games nose dive in quality.

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            • RollTideRoll0929
              Rookie
              • Jun 2019
              • 326

              #7
              Re: 4 games in and only one new position?

              Originally posted by Counter Punch
              GPD said that if it weren’t for the casual fans buying the game, it wouldn’t exist.

              So I guess that means two things:

              1) That the alternative is having no UFC game at all
              2) That the more casuals are brought on board, the bigger the budget will get, and eventually we may have a chance to have some more sim/realistic gameplay options. It’s clear after nearly 4 iterations that’s not gonna happen until the game gets a bigger budget.

              It’s a super tough pill to swallow. It upsets me greatly, but I get it. I personally believe deep down inside that a more sim game would sell and that difficulty and complexity isn’t automatically a turn off for gamers if it’s a rewarding experience. But EA feels a different way, and until this game can grow, we are never gonna be satisfied with what we get.
              Yet UD3 on a limited budget offered something for casuals and hardcore fans alike. It can be done, it's just a question of whether they care enough to do something like that?

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              • Counter Punch
                Pro
                • Apr 2018
                • 952

                #8
                Re: 4 games in and only one new position?

                Originally posted by Phillyboi207
                You let me know of a single game that focused on casuals and looped back around to make things “more realistic”

                Once casual online/mobile gamers become the target the vast majority of games nose dive in quality.
                I’ve played NBA 2k every year since it’s inception. After a few iterations it became focused on casuals. Eventually they added sliders at the request of the community and eventually added “simulation” settings a few years ago.
                ...precision beats power and timing beats speed... and realism beats meta.

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                • Counter Punch
                  Pro
                  • Apr 2018
                  • 952

                  #9
                  Re: 4 games in and only one new position?

                  Originally posted by RollTideRoll0929
                  Yet UD3 on a limited budget offered something for casuals and hardcore fans alike. It can be done, it's just a question of whether they care enough to do something like that?
                  Yeah well EA is a notoriously evil and greedy company.
                  ...precision beats power and timing beats speed... and realism beats meta.

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                  • Phillyboi207
                    Banned
                    • Apr 2012
                    • 3167

                    #10
                    Re: 4 games in and only one new position?

                    Originally posted by Counter Punch
                    I’ve played NBA 2k every year since it’s inception. After a few iterations it became focused on casuals. Eventually they added sliders at the request of the community and eventually added “simulation” settings a few years ago.
                    Same here

                    2k was originally all about sim and added sliders well before they started focusing on casuals.

                    Even now their Out of the box and “simulation” modes aren’t realistic at all. 2k does however give us the means to edit everything ourselves but I definitely wouldnt point to default 2k gameplay as simulation ball.

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                    • Counter Punch
                      Pro
                      • Apr 2018
                      • 952

                      #11
                      Re: 4 games in and only one new position?

                      Originally posted by Phillyboi207
                      Same here

                      2k was originally all about sim and added sliders well before they started focusing on casuals.

                      Even now their Out of the box and “simulation” modes aren’t realistic at all. 2k does however give us the means to edit everything ourselves but I definitely wouldnt point to default 2k gameplay as simulation ball.
                      No but with adjustments you can definitely get a very realistic game of basketball and you can have custom leagues with your own settings. If we get that for UFC that would be a massive improvement. It would be like ESFL without all the cheese.
                      ...precision beats power and timing beats speed... and realism beats meta.

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                      • Phillyboi207
                        Banned
                        • Apr 2012
                        • 3167

                        #12
                        Re: 4 games in and only one new position?

                        Originally posted by Counter Punch
                        No but with adjustments you can definitely get a very realistic game of basketball and you can have custom leagues with your own settings. If we get that for UFC that would be a massive improvement. It would be like ESFL without all the cheese.
                        Yeah online sliders would be heaven. Especially if we could edit the roster use it online.

                        But the main point was that default gameplay has been gearing more and more towards street ball / casual play.

                        It’s a business at the end if the day but I do hope we get full customization at some point.

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                        • Counter Punch
                          Pro
                          • Apr 2018
                          • 952

                          #13
                          Re: 4 games in and only one new position?

                          Full customization and online (massively expanded) sliders is the best we can hope for I think. At least that way we could tune the game how we want to play without it affecting anyone else’s experience.
                          ...precision beats power and timing beats speed... and realism beats meta.

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                          • 1212headkick
                            Banned
                            • Mar 2018
                            • 1824

                            #14
                            Re: 4 games in and only one new position?

                            Please... limit the conversation to the topic I actually discussed... new positions... noone here gives a damn about sliders atm... because we got so little in terms of the ground and other areas of gameplay..

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                            • Counter Punch
                              Pro
                              • Apr 2018
                              • 952

                              #15
                              Re: 4 games in and only one new position?

                              Originally posted by 1212headkick
                              Please... limit the conversation to the topic I actually discussed... new positions... noone here gives a damn about sliders atm... because we got so little in terms of the ground and other areas of gameplay..
                              In the other thread when I suggested the idea of them adding new ground positions you laughed and said that it was false hope to think that they would add more ground positions after launch, so what do you want to discuss exactly?

                              You just made a thread to bitch about something you believe has no chance of changing?
                              ...precision beats power and timing beats speed... and realism beats meta.

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