UFC 4 Strategy Guides Within (From Dmart, Bayliun)

[UFCBlackbelt]

Excellent post by Dmart gaming. I think takedown defense is one of the most important MMA elements that gets overlooked.


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Also a guide showcasing transitions from postured position and some of the new momentum transitions.
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sub to dmart, hes popping these out

[Caligulasfury]

Re: Guide to takedown defense by Dmart

He also just posted a submission guide. Glad all the guides starting to trickle out. Really need a clinch guide bad.

[Blackman316]

Re: Guide to takedown defense by Dmart

So the judo throw that used to be L2+R2+<-/-> is now L2+R2+R1? And you might randomly get another animation? Or is that based on the frames?

And the input for the judo throw is now the sprawl?


Like the video but he's too fast to explain the inputs in the takedown defense.


And I must've missed the ability to counter a sub into a sub which is pretty damn awesome.


Enough has been said about the CAF items. It looks like the hairstyles have been inspired by '80s WWE programming (from the stable of "misfit gimmicks"). The unicorn hair is beyond ridiculous. I haven't even seen someone pull this off... It's also going to cause clipping 100%. Good job EA. But again: expectations were (very) low so it's better than nothing I guess, unless these hairstyles begin to infect career mode. And why do they have the "rare" tag slapped on. There's no lootboxes or drops are there? *exhales heavily*

[WarMMA]

Re: Guide to takedown defense by Dmart

Just what I needed to see. I was getting taken down so much in the beta. Now if someone can just do the clinch.

[GibboHull]

Re: Guide to takedown defense by Dmart

First video I've seen of this dude he sounds exactly like Robin Black haha.

Really good upload though I will definitely need this, thanks for sharing.

[DCowboys22]

Re: Guide to takedown defense by Dmart

So the judo throw that used to be L2+R2+<-/-> is now L2+R2+R1? And you might randomly get another animation? Or is that based on the frames?

And the input for the judo throw is now the sprawl?


Like the video but he's too fast to explain the inputs in the takedown defense.


And I must've missed the ability to counter a sub into a sub which is pretty damn awesome.


Enough has been said about the CAF items. It looks like the hairstyles have been inspired by '80s WWE programming (from the stable of "misfit gimmicks"). The unicorn hair is beyond ridiculous. I haven't even seen someone pull this off... It's also going to cause clipping 100%. Good job EA. But again: expectations were (very) low so it's better than nothing I guess, unless these hairstyles begin to infect career mode. And why do they have the "rare" tag slapped on. There's no lootboxes or drops are there? *exhales heavily*

So the counter takedown defense is L2 + R2 + R1. I’m pretty sure the judo throw animation is fighter dependent. Some counters are a different animation and some guys don’t have a counter although I could be wrong about that.

In the Clinch, I believe a Judo throw from
Single collar is R1 + Holding X.

You can also Counter a takedown with a Sub with L2 + R2 + L1, which is also fighter dependent.


What I really like is the scramble element. If you deny late you can still battle with the Left Analog stick to try to stay on your feet. This adds a great layer of strategy and realism to wrestling.


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[gsp4392]

Re: Guide to takedown defense by Dmart

What about takedown defense against the cage?

[DCowboys22]

Re: Guide to takedown defense by Dmart

What about takedown defense against the cage?

Pretty sure that’s also just R2 + L2


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[Blackman316]

Re: Guide to takedown defense by Dmart

Based on the career videos I've seen they at least try to explain it a little. For all its supposed flaws, the lack of a proper tutorial was the worst thing about the previous game(s).

[Irish0331]

Re: Guide to takedown defense by Dmart

Do I have this right?

TD Defense = LT & RT

TD Counter = LT & RT & RB (move set dependent)

TD Counter Submission = LT & RT & LB (move set dependent)

TD Struggle (late denial) = LT & RT & Left stick up or down

[BQ32]

Re: Guide to takedown defense by Dmart

Do I have this right?

TD Defense = LT & RT

TD Counter = LT & RT & RB (move set dependent)

TD Counter Submission = LT & RT & LB (move set dependent)

TD Struggle (late denial) = LT & RT & Left stick up or down

Yeah that is what he said in the video, you also forgot to mention the sprawl, which is a perfectly timed TD or a pre-denied TD and away on the left analog stick.

[BQ32]

Re: Guide to takedown defense by Dmart

I don't know why you guys are giving him crap, this was very informative and just watch it a couple of times. It really is not that hard to follow. Nobody needs to spoon feed you baby food.

[TheVirus]

Re: Guide to takedown defense by Dmart

Just what I needed to see. I was getting taken down so much in the beta. Now if someone can just do the clinch.

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Great tutorial here if you or anybody else needs a breakdown of the clinch, my bad if it's been posted already.

[Pappy Knuckles]

Re: Guide to takedown defense by Dmart

I don't know why you guys are giving him crap, this was very informative and just watch it a couple of times. It really is not that hard to follow. Nobody needs to spoon feed you baby food.

What are you talking about? Everyone in this thread seems happy that they're getting useful tips, I know I am. Who's giving him crap or saying it's hard to comprehend?

I had to re-read the thread a few times to see if I missed something because I don't get the tone of your response.

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[WarMMA]

Re: Guide to takedown defense by Dmart

Do I have this right?

TD Defense = LT & RT

TD Counter = LT & RT & RB (move set dependent)

TD Counter Submission = LT & RT & LB (move set dependent)

TD Struggle (late denial) = LT & RT & Left stick up or down

Yh thats it, along with the sprawl like said above. Its those driving td struggles you really wanna master defending though. Cuz against the best wrestlers/grapplers, thats how you'll have to be defending most of the time cuz their td ratings are high.