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  • #1
    SUGATA
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    • Apr 2016
    • 1375

    EA UFC 4 ISSUES + How to fix them


    EA UFC 4 issues:

    1) Move list does NOT have video DEMONSTRATION of the move.
    EA UFC 3 has it.
    > Just return them from UFC 3 even if the animation was a bit changed.


    2) Move list does NOT have Move's level % CHARACTERISTICS like "Stamina cost" and "Damage".
    EA UFC 3 has it.
    > Return these values with actual numbers into Move list.


    3) NO RESET position button in Practice!
    EA UFC 3 did not have it too.
    > It is crucial! Please allows us to rest positions and _conditions (stamina, health)_ to initial default easily and quickly!


    4) In Practice add please Strike STAMINA COST the same way as Strike damage - with % and actual (default) values.
    > It is difficult to determine Stamina cost based on dynamic scale, it needs to be fixed values showed the same way as Strike damage.


    5) Create a fighter - HAIR COLOR - "Grey" has a wrong (white) color.
    EA UFC 3 has it in right color.
    > Fix colors in CAF section.


    6) Create a fighter - FACE TYPES (presets) - the most of them are scary and ugly. Difficult to find just normal.
    EA UFC 3 did not have it.
    > Hope for some fixes.


    7) In Practice allow to bind 2-3 different RECORDS (i.e. less the minimum 5) - 2-3 is a classic for mix-up training.
    We have minimum 5.


    8) Player HUB (touchpad button) doe NOT have: Friends Online section + No way to see their Online Stats.
    UFC 3 has it.
    > Return missed Hub features.


    9) Player (My) online STATS is very primitive, NOT detailed.
    EA UFC 3 has detailed stats across different playing styles.
    > Return more detailed Player stats.


    10) No "Players online" value in Ranked - i.e. online activity is hidden from players.
    All prev EA UFCs has it.
    > Return "Players online" for monitoring players activity in the game (how much it is alive).

    To be continued...
    Last edited by SUGATA; 10-27-2020, 03:36 PM.
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    daawod.messymess
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    • Jun 2020
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    Re: EA UFC 4 ISSUES + How to fix them


    Re: EA UFC 4 ISSUES + How to fix them

    Originally posted by SUGATA
    EA UFC 4 issues:

    1) Move list does NOT have video DEMONSTRATION of the move.
    EA UFC 3 has it.
    > Just return them from UFC 3 even if the animation was a bit changed.


    2) Move list does NOT have Move's level % CHARACTERISTICS like "Stamina cost" and "Damage".
    EA UFC 3 has it.
    > Return these values with actual numbers into Move list.


    3) NO RESET position button in Practice!
    EA UFC 3 did not have it too.
    > It is crucial! Please allows us to rest positions and _conditions (stamina, health)_ to initial default easily and quickly!


    4) In Practice add please Strike STAMINA COST the same way as Strike damage - with % and actual (default) values.
    > It is difficult to determine Stamina cost based on dynamic scale, it needs to be fixed values showed the same way as Strike damage.


    5) Create a fighter - HAIR COLOR - "Grey" has a wrong (white) color.
    EA UFC 3 has it in right color.
    > Fix colors in CAF section.


    6) Create a fighter - FACE TYPES (presets) - the most of them are scary and ugly. Difficult to find just normal.
    EA UFC 3 did not have it.
    > Hope for some fixes.


    7) In Practice allow to bind 2-3 different RECORDS (i.e. less the minimum 5) - 2-3 is a classic for mix-up training.
    We have minimum 5.


    8) Player HUB (touchpad button) doe NOT have: Friends Online section + No way to see their Online Stats.
    UFC 3 has it.
    > Return missed Hub features.


    9) Player (My) online STATS is very primitive, NOT detailed.
    EA UFC 3 has detailed stats across different playing styles.
    > Return more detailed Player stats.

    To be continued...
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    • #3
      SUGATA
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      • Apr 2016
      • 1375

      Re: EA UFC 4 ISSUES + How to fix them


      Re: EA UFC 4 ISSUES + How to fix them

      10) No "Players online" value in Ranked - i.e. online activity is hidden from players.
      All prev EA UFCs has it.
      > Return "Players online" for monitoring players activity in the game (how much it is alive).
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      • #4
        1212headkick
        Banned
        • Mar 2018
        • 1823

        Re: EA UFC 4 ISSUES + How to fix them


        Re: EA UFC 4 ISSUES + How to fix them

        Ufc 4 meta guide soon? Seeing as how the gamechangets haven't done anything regarding this. (How mechanics have changed in the standup or the new momentum transitions which are currently not public)

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        • #5
          SUGATA
          MVP
          • Apr 2016
          • 1375

          Re: EA UFC 4 ISSUES + How to fix them


          Re: EA UFC 4 ISSUES + How to fix them

          Originally posted by 1212headkick
          Ufc 4 meta guide soon? Seeing as how the gamechangets haven't done anything regarding this. (How mechanics have changed in the standup or the new momentum transitions which are currently not public)
          I got UFC4 just 2 days ago. So, difficult to answer, b/c I don’t know what exactly remains untouched and what and how was changed... need to test ALL elements of mechanics. This is a huge work.
          I am begin ndoing this already.
          Last edited by SUGATA; 09-14-2020, 01:10 AM.
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          • #6
            Skynet
            EA Sports UFC Developer
            • Mar 2015
            • 703

            Re: EA UFC 4 ISSUES + How to fix them


            Re: EA UFC 4 ISSUES + How to fix them

            Originally posted by SUGATA
            EA UFC 4 issues:
            1) Move list does NOT have video DEMONSTRATION of the move.
            EA UFC 3 has it.
            > Just return them from UFC 3 even if the animation was a bit changed.
            Not sure exactly what moves you're talking about, but there are animations for nearly every move in the game in the moves screen. Last year they were pre-captured videos, this year they're live animations with your active fighter.

            Originally posted by SUGATA
            3) NO RESET position button in Practice!
            EA UFC 3 did not have it too.
            > It is crucial! Please allows us to rest positions and _conditions (stamina, health)_ to initial default easily and quickly!
            This is a known request, but much trickier than you'd think. Hopefully will happen, but I wouldn't count on it soon. Fingers crossed, as I want it too.

            Originally posted by SUGATA
            4) In Practice add please Strike STAMINA COST the same way as Strike damage - with % and actual (default) values.
            > It is difficult to determine Stamina cost based on dynamic scale, it needs to be fixed values showed the same way as Strike damage.
            I've added more details to the damage HUD in an upcoming update, but sadly stamina cost didn't make it in yet. The system and timing for stamina cost is very difficult and different than that of damage, and was too complicated to add in the time I had to work on it. Maybe down the road. I know it's valuable and people will want it, but it will be expensive to add, if even possible at all...

            Originally posted by SUGATA
            7) In Practice allow to bind 2-3 different RECORDS (i.e. less the minimum 5) - 2-3 is a classic for mix-up training.
            We have minimum 5.
            You can record as few as you like, and can reset the current recordings if you want to make all new ones. The 5 in your example is the max before new ones start replacing the oldest. If you only record 2-3, then it only picks from those 2-3.

            Originally posted by SUGATA
            9) Player (My) online STATS is very primitive, NOT detailed.
            EA UFC 3 has detailed stats across different playing styles.
            > Return more detailed Player stats.
            This was an intentional choice, and I doubt that will change for this title.

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            • #7
              1212headkick
              Banned
              • Mar 2018
              • 1823

              Re: EA UFC 4 ISSUES + How to fix them


              Re: EA UFC 4 ISSUES + How to fix them

              Originally posted by Skynet
              Not sure exactly what moves you're talking about, but there are animations for nearly every move in the game in the moves screen. Last year they were pre-captured videos, this year they're live animations with your active fighter.



              This is a known request, but much trickier than you'd think. Hopefully will happen, but I wouldn't count on it soon. Fingers crossed, as I want it too.



              I've added more details to the damage HUD in an upcoming update, but sadly stamina cost didn't make it in yet. The system and timing for stamina cost is very difficult and different than that of damage, and was too complicated to add in the time I had to work on it. Maybe down the road. I know it's valuable and people will want it, but it will be expensive to add, if even possible at all...



              You can record as few as you like, and can reset the current recordings if you want to make all new ones. The 5 in your example is the max before new ones start replacing the oldest. If you only record 2-3, then it only picks from those 2-3.



              This was an intentional choice, and I doubt that will change for this title.
              What about practice mode online. I can't stand having to rush to show my friends how to play

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              • #8
                SUGATA
                MVP
                • Apr 2016
                • 1375

                Re: EA UFC 4 ISSUES + How to fix them


                Re: EA UFC 4 ISSUES + How to fix them

                Skynet, thank you for your response.


                Originally posted by Skynet
                Not sure exactly what moves you're talking about, but there are animations for nearly every move in the game in the moves screen. Last year they were pre-captured videos, this year they're live animations with your active fighter.
                Practice > Choose fighter > View moves (Moves list) - ... NO any videos or animation or button start this ones, only a black screen on the right side from the move 's input.
                Do you need a video proof?




                This was an intentional choice, and I doubt that will change for this title.
                Strange decision (to rigid the game's player analysis tools, which are already coded and implemented in all prev games).... Hope, this will be changed in future patches.


                Also, hope for return of Player's Hub
                8) Player HUB (touchpad button) doe NOT have: Friends Online section + No way to see their Online Stats.
                UFC 3 has it.
                > Return missed Hub features.

                This thing was awesome - you see your friends activity in the game, their stats - all community tools under one Touchpad click!



                2) Move list does NOT have Move's level % CHARACTERISTICS like "Stamina cost" and "Damage".
                EA UFC 3 has it.
                > Return these values with actual numbers into Move list.
                Honestly, i dont get why such helpful things were removed... Any chances to return Move's characteristics?
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                • #9
                  tomitomitomi
                  Pro
                  • Mar 2018
                  • 987

                  Re: EA UFC 4 ISSUES + How to fix them


                  Re: EA UFC 4 ISSUES + How to fix them

                  Originally posted by 1212headkick
                  What about practice mode online. I can't stand having to rush to show my friends how to play
                  I hope you didn't tell them to buy it but they just happened to get it as a gift from their aunts.
                  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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                  • #10
                    SUGATA
                    MVP
                    • Apr 2016
                    • 1375

                    Re: EA UFC 4 ISSUES + How to fix them


                    Re: EA UFC 4 ISSUES + How to fix them

                    Several patches came out... and still many issues were not fixed =(

                    1) Move list does NOT have video DEMONSTRATION of the move.
                    EA UFC 3 has it.

                    > Just return them from UFC 3 even if the animation was a bit changed.


                    2) Move list does NOT have Move's level % CHARACTERISTICS like "Stamina cost" and "Damage".
                    EA UFC 3 has it.
                    > Return these values with actual numbers into Move list.


                    3) NO RESET position button in Practice!
                    EA UFC 3 did not have it too.
                    > It is crucial! Please allows us to rest positions and _conditions (stamina, health)_ to initial default easily and quickly!


                    4) In Practice add please Strike STAMINA COST the same way as Strike damage - with % and actual (default) values.
                    > It is difficult to determine Stamina cost based on dynamic scale, it needs to be fixed values showed the same way as Strike damage.


                    5) Create a fighter - HAIR COLOR - "Grey" has a wrong (white) color.
                    EA UFC 3 has it in right color.
                    > Fix colors in CAF section.


                    6) Create a fighter - FACE TYPES (presets) - the most of them are scary and ugly. Difficult to find just normal.
                    EA UFC 3 did not have it.
                    > Hope for some fixes.


                    7) In Practice allow to bind 2-3 different RECORDS (i.e. less the minimum 5) - 2-3 is a classic for mix-up training.
                    We have minimum 5.


                    8) Player HUB (touchpad button) doe NOT have: Friends Online section + No way to see their Online Stats.
                    UFC 3 has it.
                    > Return missed Hub features.


                    9) Player (My) online STATS is very primitive, NOT detailed.
                    EA UFC 3 has detailed stats across different playing styles.
                    > Return more detailed Player stats.


                    10) No "Players online" value in Ranked - i.e. online activity is hidden from players.
                    All prev EA UFCs has it.
                    > Return "Players online" for monitoring players activity in the game (how much it is alive).
                    Are there any hope for post release game support & evolve?
                    Last edited by SUGATA; 10-27-2020, 03:40 PM.
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                    • #11
                      SUGATA
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                      • Apr 2016
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                      Re: EA UFC 4 ISSUES + How to fix them


                      Re: EA UFC 4 ISSUES + How to fix them

                      11) No STRIKING ADVANTAGE gauge in Practice tools - gauge indicating when the player becomes able to move/strike/block after his strike recovery or hit stun.
                      This will be the main thing which allows self-learning for game mechanics.
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                      • #12
                        SUGATA
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                        • Apr 2016
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                        Re: EA UFC 4 ISSUES + How to fix them


                        Re: EA UFC 4 ISSUES + How to fix them

                        It looks like i need to become a TROLL to gain some Devs attention and response... instead of trying to be constructive critical and to learn the game mechanics (as we STILL dont have normal in-depth tutorial and are forced to search black cat in black room).
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                        • #13
                          TheShizNo1
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                          • Mar 2007
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                          Re: EA UFC 4 ISSUES + How to fix them


                          Re: EA UFC 4 ISSUES + How to fix them

                          Please, don't

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                          • #14
                            SUGATA
                            MVP
                            • Apr 2016
                            • 1375

                            Re: EA UFC 4 ISSUES + How to fix them


                            Re: EA UFC 4 ISSUES + How to fix them

                            Originally posted by TheShizNo1
                            Please, don't

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                            It is strange to see when the developers here engage in polemics with trolls and write many posts (wasting their time for NOTHING helpful for community!), but at the same time ignore constructive criticism of the game and questions about game mechanics. This is illogical behavior.
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                            • #15
                              Skynet
                              EA Sports UFC Developer
                              • Mar 2015
                              • 703

                              Re: EA UFC 4 ISSUES + How to fix them


                              Re: EA UFC 4 ISSUES + How to fix them

                              Just because you post doesn't mean I/we have something to say about it. And I actually think that much of the comments I've made lately have been rather on the enlightening and information side, talking about many of the inner workings and technology of the game.

                              I have also had discourse about the nature of these forums lately, yes. The value in that is in bettering the community itself, not the game. To me, those are both very valuable.

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