Submission Blocking

[Dave_S]

These show obvious examples, not all are this easy to pick up.

In video I try standup left followed by submission that initiates with left on thumbstick, followed by standup up followed by submission that initiate with up, ect..

[Haz____]

I second Kseary on this one 100%

I Also play a heavy grappling style, and sometimes run into submission spammers exactly like what he is talking about.

I can hold average players in just about any position forever, but somehow I can't stop their sub attempts.

Not sure what the issue is, but it's insanely frustrating.

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GPD, do the sub attempts have a shorter denial window or something?

[Dave_S]

I can block flying subs all day in practice, but think I've only denied it once online. My grappling skills in game are questionable at best though so I'm guessing I'm probably doing something wrong.

Of course in practice mode I can preemptively deny with r2, and just wait to input with right thumbstick until I see animation, not sure if that works online.

[GameplayDevUFC]

Quote: Originally Posted by Haz____

I second Kseary on this one 100% I Also play a heavy grappling style, and sometimes run into submission spammers exactly like what he is talking about. I can hold average players in just about any position forever, but somehow I can't stop their sub attempts. Not sure what the issue is, but it's insanely frustrating. --------------- GPD, do the sub attempts have a shorter denial window or something?

Totally depends on the position and sub ratings. And stamina and GA obviously.

For example, the heel hook from SUB mount is probably the longest denial window in the game.

The arm bar from mount will be a lot faster than the arm drag from guard.

[Dave_S]

If you want to practice submission denials online hit me up

I'm either on Dave _2319 or The_Son_ of_Dork

[thelasthurtknee]

Quote: Originally Posted by Dave_S

I can block flying subs all day in practice, but think I've only denied it once online. My grappling skills in game are questionable at best though so I'm guessing I'm probably doing something wrong. Of course in practice mode I can preemptively deny with r2, and just wait to input with right thumbstick until I see animation, not sure if that works online.

Yes u can hold r2 down online also.

[GameplayDevUFC]

Quote: Originally Posted by thelasthurtknee

Yes u can hold r2 down online also.

Yes, absolutely.

Not sure why people thought holding R2 meant pre-emptively denying.

A pre-emptive denial is inputting a direction while holding R2.

You can hold R2 all day with no penalty.

[Dave_S]

Quote: Originally Posted by GameplayDevUFC

Yes, absolutely. Not sure why people thought holding R2 meant pre-emptively denying. A pre-emptive denial is inputting a direction while holding R2. You can hold R2 all day with no penalty.

When I first read no pre-emptive denials I immediately thought of r2, maybe because it's the common denominator in every denial.

It looks like to you can also preemptively hold r2 before a parry, I never tried that until now.