If you commit to a strike you shouldn't be able to stuff a TD

[Boiler569]

Quote: Originally Posted by Bigg Cee

No FN way. I'm not wasting my time on this guy. If he wants to learn takedowns go ask someone else. Sorry for bein a jerk but im done with this worthless topic and the worthless post I see from people who know nothing about the ground or takedowns in the game. Bye!

Did you know GPD admitted that --- if a fighter has 100% stamina and the other has 0% stamina --- there is still a *six frame denial window*

can you believe that? 0% stamina and you still have six frames to successfully deny a standing takedown!

come on man you gotta admit, that's ridiculous

[Shogun474]

Quote: Originally Posted by Boiler569

Did you know GPD admitted that --- if a fighter has 100% stamina and the other has 0% stamina --- there is still a *six frame denial window* can you believe that? 0% stamina and you still have six frames to successfully deny a standing takedown! come on man you gotta admit, that's ridiculous

Wow really? Thats beyond a joke

[Boiler569]

Quote: Originally Posted by Shogun474

Wow really? Thats beyond a joke

yup this came up a couple months ago. I think on this forum (possibly the EA forum but I think it was this one)

Lots of people were very surprised, to say the least lol

I'm sorry but if your stamina is under 20%...opponent is over 80%...and stats are even...you should have a denial window of 0 frames !!!! lol

[Bigg Cee]

Quote: Originally Posted by Boiler569

Did you know GPD admitted that --- if a fighter has 100% stamina and the other has 0% stamina --- there is still a *six frame denial window* can you believe that? 0% stamina and you still have six frames to successfully deny a standing takedown! come on man you gotta admit, that's ridiculous

Ya i knew that.

At the time i thought it was a lil crazy and still is but anymore of a buff and your really going to have a OP ground game and OP takedowns. So now after becoming really good at the ground i can see why u can deny so early now.

Now the stamina issue that ties into trying to deny. I agree with you. That's why I said takedowns are in a good spot but there still times ppl deny with no stamina but if that part gets a buff you still will have a OP takedown/ground game.

[ZHunter1990]

Takedowns are in a very good spot right now.

If buffed any more fights will become nothing but takedown contests.

Also, do you realize how small 6 frames is? If you can time that you deserve to be able to deny the TD.

[Boiler569]

Quote: Originally Posted by ZHunter1990

Takedowns are in a very good spot right now. If buffed any more fights will become nothing but takedown contests. Also, do you realize how small 6 frames is? If you can time that you deserve to be able to deny the TD.

it's all about the pre-deny at the high level (as i'm sure you know) --- let's not call it pre-deny per se; but more of a 'predicted denial' where you try to time a denial and input the denial before animation begins.

This is a legit tactic in general (especially with lag lol)

BUT --- I don't care if a guy knows for absolute sure I'm going for a takedown --- if he has <20% stamina and I have 80-100% stamina --- 0 Frame Denial Window is appropriate, don't you think?

He can see it coming all he wants. But he has no stamina and I'm gassed up. He's going for a ride.

(Again...assuming the person taking them down isn't some guy with minimal takedown stats vs. DC or something lol)

But that's just the extreme example

Even 100% stamina vs 50% stamina --- assuming even stats --- I'm sure the window is way too large; probably like 20 frames or something

[Morgan Monkman]

I am curious as to your guys takedown %?

[Bigg Cee]

Quote: Originally Posted by Morgan Monkman

I am curious as to your guys takedown %?

You can't go by that for an accurate TD% because of lag, latency and just playing ppl from all over the world through P2P. It's just not a good way to judge things.