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Old 11-26-2017, 04:07 PM   #41
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I didn't really organize, though. Just played and stayed champ for a while.
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Old 11-26-2017, 04:35 PM   #42
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I didn't really organize, though. Just played and stayed champ for a while.
That's what he meant. You dominated the PS3 side. The Xbox side was more competitive back then. I believe there are more PS4 player now though.

Team Gauntlet basically had a champ in every weight class and we won the league Live Event I believe.
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Old 11-26-2017, 04:48 PM   #43
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To all who cry about the ground game. Mark my words..... "You WILL tap"
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Old 11-26-2017, 05:45 PM   #44
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To all who cry about the ground game. Mark my words..... "You WILL tap"
Not if I blast you with an uppercut first :P
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Old 11-26-2017, 05:59 PM   #45
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Not if I blast you with an uppercut first :P
Or a knee, or when you realize that if your first clinch attempt gets denied, the next 499 will get you killed
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Old 11-26-2017, 06:00 PM   #46
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Really hope submission spammers will take a hit to their stamina bar too.
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Old 11-26-2017, 06:06 PM   #47
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Clinch spamming is like cultural appropriation, it doesn't exist. Half of the positions in the clinch are mirrored, meaning: you can do the exact same things to them as they can to you. It's not magic and it's not particularly overpowered. In the Thai clinch you can actually see where they are blocking if you're dominant and you can see where they are going to attack and block before you get hit if you're submissive.

They made the denial window so large for direct entries into the Thai and double unders you can deny when rocked and have no stamina and you can easily deny neutral positions if you know they're looking for the clinch.

Those easy transitions into takedowns you mentioned are a feature. It's called momentum advantage. Yes, if I transition into the single collar from Thai I have a ridiculous speed advantage for the leg grab takedown. Luckily, it only puts you in guard and if you know they are going to use that momentum advantage you can preemptively block it. If they don't do it immediately they get no speed advantage.

As with most things in life, the defense to clinch "spamming" is to git gud.
Clinch spamming most definitely exists when one guy is Khabib and the other is Barboza, and Khabib is able to almost completely avoid the striking because he can throw out hundreds of clinch attempts with little to no risk
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Old 11-26-2017, 06:08 PM   #48
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Clinch spamming most definitely exists when one guy is Khabib and the other is Barboza, and Khabib is able to almost completely avoid the striking because he can throw out hundreds of clinch attempts with little to no risk
I play against 100 overall super CAFs with all level 5 moves and I don't have this problem. The stat advantage can only get you so far. It's hard to say this stuff without sounding like an elitist, but you just aren't good enough if you can't punish someone spamming the clinch.

There is a fine line between cheese and mechanics that take some time to master. Sometimes people confuse the two.
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