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Old 12-22-2017, 12:54 AM   #57
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Can we get a cryptic ragdoll tweet...I'm desperate I know
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Old 12-22-2017, 01:27 AM   #58
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I hope clinch punches get health events for balance.
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Old 12-22-2017, 01:37 AM   #59
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Glad they've taken so much of our feedback and made changes. This is how you keep your fanbase.
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Old 12-22-2017, 01:38 AM   #60
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No, you can punish if the strike is blocked and they continue to combo.
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Old 12-22-2017, 01:52 AM   #61
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Or do you mean the jab+kick was faster than the kick alone?
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Old 12-22-2017, 04:00 AM   #62
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They are only punishable if you miss or they are blocked, which would never happen off a successful slip and counter.

So this is only a nerf to slip strikes that aren't counter strikes.

So it's a nerf to the unsuccessful spamming of them.
The problem is that you want leaning/slipping strikes relegated to counter striking, even though you shouldn’t.

Leading leaning/weaving strikes are utilised often in boxing/MMA for various reasons not just countering and not all the time can strikers be punished successfully for doing so, so in terms of realism the change doesn’t make sense. And as I explain bellow, balance wise it makes no sense either.

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They are by their very nature safer, faster and in some cases deal more damage. Makes sense that they would have a longer recovery on whiff to balance them out a bit.
How when in order to throw slipping/leaning strikes you must slip or lean, which are two executions that are already extremely punishable? Do you not see my point here?

Edit: I got it wrong initially, there is no justification for the additional properties of leaning/weaving strikes.

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Old 12-22-2017, 04:46 AM   #63
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I suppose that there might be a confusion with the terms being utilized here. It got me, too, btw.

The leaning strikes are not punishable on block, not in the strict sense of term. They are not unsafe on block. You can lean, strike, have it blocked, then block the opponent's counter. The big change is that if your leaning strike is blocked, comboing off of it will be slow. So, if you try to throw a second punch, for instance, it will likely be intercepted if the opponent retaliates immediately with a cross.

The actual unsafety happens if you whiff. In a way, anything is unsafe on whiff, if you consider that the opponnet may start his strike before the end of your execution. Having said that, the unsafety of the leaning punches (on whiff) was increased quite a bit - though most likely not to a point of making it look weird.
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Old 12-22-2017, 07:12 AM   #64
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So if I've got this right:

Slipping strikes aren't punishable on block, but will leave the attacker at a big frame disadvantage, so much so they can't combo without being interrupted by an opponents strike.

If that's the case then it's not as bad as I first thought but I agree that the punish for this strategy should be potentially leaning into a hook and getting badly hurt. This feels a bit artificial for my liking but we'll see I guess.
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