3 Issues i have with the stamina system. Please weigh in.

[aholbert32]

To make this easier to understand, lets use two fighters from the beta, Conor and Iaquinta.

Now Conor switches stances so he has a 95 and a striking OVR of 96.
Iaquinta has a 85 SS rating and 90 striking OVR. Al doesnt switch stances alot.

Lets say we did what you suggest and really drop his numbers. Lets drop Al to a 45. That would drop his striking OVR to 84. Now that presents 2 problems:

1) As I stated before it would make him useless from a power perspective if he switches stances. From a sim/realism perspective, that may be ok but it would make switching stances pretty much a waste of time for him. This would be the case for most fighters in the game because most fighters dont switch stances alot.

2) His OVR in striking is now 12 points lower than Conor which doesnt realistically represent the difference between his striking and Conor's. It also is likely that the UFC wouldnt even approve those numbers.

[aholbert32]

Quote: Originally Posted by Dave_S

In a decent amount of the more violent leg kick fights the fighter on the receiving end only switches temporarily. Frequently very temporarily. If switch stats need to be high for leg kick balance I can accept it. But if anyone pushing for realism and more sim is okay with the switch ratings I call shenanigans.

I'm ok with it for the reasons I just listed. Its more complicated than just "changing the range".

As for the hard combo part of it, thats not my call.

[Dave_S]

Is Conor's switch stat really 95? If 75 was the lowest I might give him 85 switch. Then I'd give Iaquinta 84.

[aholbert32]

Quote: Originally Posted by Dave_S

Is Conor's switch stat really 95? If 75 was the lowest I might give him 85 switch. Then I'd give Iaquinta 84.

But Conor switches much more than Al and is more effective from those the opposite side?


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[Phillyboi207]

Quote: Originally Posted by aholbert32

To make this easier to understand, lets use two fighters from the beta, Conor and Iaquinta. Now Conor switches stances so he has a 95 and a striking OVR of 96. Iaquinta has a 85 SS rating and 90 striking OVR. Al doesnt switch stances alot. Lets say we did what you suggest and really drop his numbers. Lets drop Al to a 45. That would drop his striking OVR to 84. Now that presents 2 problems: 1) As I stated before it would make him useless from a power perspective if he switches stances. From a sim/realism perspective, that may be ok but it would make switching stances pretty much a waste of time for him. This would be the case for most fighters in the game because most fighters dont switch stances alot. 2) His OVR in striking is now 12 points lower than Conor which doesnt realistically represent the difference between his striking and Conor's. It also is likely that the UFC wouldnt even approve those numbers.

1) that doesnt have to be the case tho. If they rescaled it 45 might not be quite as weak. There should be a drop off in power but more noticeable in speed/lack of hard combos. Btw I def believe most fighters should be pretty useless when it comes to switching stances.

2) Simply have the switch stance stat mean less towards a fighter’s overall.

[Dave_S]

Quote: Originally Posted by aholbert32

But Conor switches much more than Al and is more effective from those the opposite side? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro

Maybe. When I think of fighters that are good switch Conor's name isn't on my radar, and I think he's obviously a fantastic striker.

[Solid_Altair]

I think the roster minimum is 80.

[killakrok]

Quote: Originally Posted by aholbert32

I didnt realize that it was two separate bars that only affect each other a small amount. This needs to be changed.

Crap, after the recent changes to the stamina system I went from being on the fence to most likely picking up on day 1, now I'm nervous again.