EA UFC Stat Change Request Discussion Thread

[aholbert32]

Quote: Originally Posted by Dave_S

I'm totally okay with docking him for his loses, but you gotta realize he's not the same fighter that fought Khabib. He's much better now.

I'm sure he is and if I was rating a game after the Khabib fight he would likely be much lower. I just dont know if there is much of an argument that he would be a top 4 LW right now. Especially because 3 of the 4 handily beat him.

[Dave_S]

Quote: Originally Posted by aholbert32

I'm sure he is and if I was rating a game after the Khabib fight he would likely be much lower. I just dont know if there is much of an argument that he would be a top 4 LW right now. Especially because 3 of the 4 handily beat him.

Total speculation but I'd have him ranked 4 between Alvarez and Edson. Since he doesn't fight at LW anymore I'm not expecting changes to him at LW as far as stats go.

[Serengeti1]

Quote: Originally Posted by aholbert32

I'm sure he is and if I was rating a game after the Khabib fight he would likely be much lower. I just dont know if there is much of an argument that he would be a top 4 LW right now. Especially because 3 of the 4 handily beat him.

Bro why are you ducking my request for Diaz's straight punch animations to be changed?

Also, Khabib would ragdoll RDA again imo. Yeah, he's better but not better than Khabib. Slightly off topic for a second... I've thought about how interesting some of the wins/losses are for guys who change weight classes recently. Like RDA is having real success at WW but would get wrecked by a lot of the top LW's again imo. Whittaker got starched by Thompson. There were a few other examples I thought of earlier but I've forgotten them. The idea that weight is everything has kinda been dispelled recently.

[aholbert32]

Quote: Originally Posted by Dave_S

Total speculation but I'd have him ranked 4 between Alvarez and Edson. Since he doesn't fight at LW anymore I'm not expecting changes to him at LW as far as stats go.

That would make him the 5th best LW because Conor is the champ.

[aholbert32]

Quote: Originally Posted by Serengeti95

Bro why are you ducking my request for Diaz's straight punch animations to be changed? Also, Khabib would ragdoll RDA again imo. Yeah, he's better but not better than Khabib. Slightly off topic for a second... I've thought about how interesting some of the wins/losses are for guys who change weight classes recently. Like RDA is having real success at WW but would get wrecked by a lot of the top LW's again imo. Whittaker got starched by Thompson. There were a few other examples I thought of earlier but I've forgotten them. The idea that weight is everything has kinda been dispelled recently.

Ducking? I dont do movesets. Post it in the thread and the devs will see it.

[Serengeti1]

Quote: Originally Posted by aholbert32

Ducking? I dont do movesets. Post it in the thread and the devs will see it.

I have. I asked GPD in the live tuner thread too but he ducked the question (or didn't see it idk lol). Changes were made but not to the straight punch animations. I hope to god it doesn't stay like that because it's not deemed important enough when it's an easy fix.

[SMOKEZERO]

Quote: Originally Posted by Serengeti95

The Alvarez fight can legitimately be looked at as unfortunate for RDA. But it would be speculation. The rest of what you're talking about is speculation too. You can make excuses for any fighter's loss. The excuse for the Khabib loss is particularly naive. He was on a 5 fight win streak when he lost to him. The performances he had in those fights is pretty much all we can look at. Otherwise things get silly. The idea that Cain would beat Werdum at sea level is another one. The idea that GSP only gassed because of carrying extra weight or because he was ill is more speculation. We can't make decisions based on things like that.

Then why are you insistent on penalizing a fighter for 3 performances out of 24 in the UFC. After Khabib he won 5 more and was the champ against guys that have better stats. Lost 2, went up a weight and completely washed Lawler over 5 and is sitting as the number 1 contender at WW now. You know, khabib pulled out 3 days before the tony fight and that isn't reflected here... but in reality it's a loss. Dude didn't make it to the cage. Is that all speculation too? No, it happened


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[Nugget7211]

Quote: Originally Posted by aholbert32

Ok lets slow down. He wasnt a dominant champion at LW. He beat Pettis and Cerrone. He was then KO'd by Eddie and lost convincingly to Tony. People also seem to forget that he was dominated by Khabib. Thats 3 of the top 4 LWs right there. At WW, keep in mind that when the ratings were finalized it was before the Lawler fight. With that said, I dont know want to completely overreact to the Lawler fight given that Robbie hasnt looked great in his last 3 fights. I think he needs a buff but its not an easy one. I think he is arguably a better LW than a WW but he is also maybe the 5th best LW currently while he is probably the 3rd or 4th best WW so he needs to be rated accordingly. I'm loving all of the input guys keep it coming.

He was incredibly competitive with Ferguson though, like you can make an argument he won that fight, not a good one but you can do it and it's not insane (he was also eye poked really badly early in the second round when the momentum started to swing but whatever.)

RDA's striking stats are mostly fine, his switch stat really ****s his overall because it's the minimum of 80, it's his grappling, stamina and health that I think have been done a disservice.

The only person RDA has fought since 2011 who was better than him in the grappling (there was little to no grappling in the ferguson or alvarez fights to be fair) was Khabib. He has beaten every single other fighter he's fought in the grappling exchanges. Like, why is Nate Diaz 4 points better than RDA on top? Why is Eddie Alvarez 5 points better? Why is Evan Dunham better on top? Jake Matthews has a better top game than RDA at lightweight. Like, even when he was half unconscious he got side control on Eddie Alvarez and held it for a few seconds.

Onto his stamina now, he fights at a consistently high pace, not dissimilar to Eddie Alvarez's pace in all but the Gaethje fight, yet all his stamina stats are lower than Eddie's. He has 2 points less striking stamina, 5 points less grappling stamina which is insane since RDA is much more of a grappler than Eddie generally and 6 points less endurance. I don't understand why RDA isn't getting credit for the pace he pushes in his fights tbh and this is probably the biggest issue with his stats.

Now, onto his health. His body and leg health is fine. It's his chin and heart that I feel are too low. He has 1 point less chin than Barboza and 3 points less heart than him. While Barboza has been knocked out one less time than RDA, RDA's 2 knockout losses are 8 years apart and the first was the best punch Jeremy Stephens has ever landed and the second was the best punch Eddie Alvarez has ever landed and it didn't put him out or even down. Barboza also gets hurts far more often, Cowboy dropped him with a jab whereas RDA ate high kicks and flying knees from Anthony Pettis without even wobbling. RDA should be around 90-91 in chin and similar in heart in my opinion.

The reason I'm focusing so much on RDA is I feel like his stats being off make it quite difficult to use him the way RDA fights. You can't push his kind of pace because his cardio can't support it, nor can his chin and you can't grapple as dominantly as you should be able to with him. RDA was the 4th ranked Lightweight when he left the division and he's currently the 2nd ranked Welterweight in the world and I don't think his stats accurately reflect just how good of a fighter he is.