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Old 03-17-2018, 07:28 PM   #65
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Re: Ducks are overpowered

Does leaning with the hook cause less damage? and can we get rid/change the animation on the duck its really killing the game online.
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Old 03-17-2018, 08:38 PM   #66
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I honestly think the side sway hooks are even worse.
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Old 03-21-2018, 02:19 AM   #67
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Swaying back is the most effective way to make a hook miss, but ducking under it is also very effective and something we've seen in MMA.




An issue I have with the duck, especially against hooks is that we don't often see fighters counter off the duck against hooks. When a hook misses, it misses hard and that is actually a good thing for the fighter that misses because usually, it propels the fighter forward which is why counter fighters can duck under it and regain the center of the cage.... Like DC did in the Gif above.

Holly Holm took it to the absolute extreme against Ronda.



If a fighter does counter after a duck under a hook, it's not an uppercut... a fighter's feet would basically have to be in the same spot for you to duck under a hook and come up with an uppercut.... most times, they miss and move forward and if you wanna counter, you gotta wait for them to move forward which puts you at an angle, then go with a long range weapon. Like Conor did here.



It's hard to duck a hook, come up with an uppercut and have enough time to land... a very hard counter to time but in the game that's not the case. A duck under a hook is basically a guaranteed uppercut.

In real life, fighters duck under the hook for two reasons... MOSTLY.

A) To simple dodge the strike and regain center.
B) To shoot under and go for a Takedown like DC did here against Volkan. He ducked two hooks in an attempt to go for the legs.



Basically what I'm saying is... Maaaaaybe ducking under hooks specifically and coming up with uppercuts shouldn't be a thing? It's something we overlooked which sucks, but maybe this should be much harder than it is right now.... ESPECIALLY a moving hook... I mean DEFINITELY a moving hook.

I agree ducking hooks to an uppercut is too effective
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Old 03-21-2018, 03:48 AM   #68
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Ducks should not be able to avoid hooks
This right here might be one of the dumbest things ever said on this forum lol.
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Old 03-21-2018, 09:08 AM   #69
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This right here might be one of the dumbest things ever said on this forum lol.

And you’re one of the dumbest quoters.

I said hooks AND straights, of course you intentionally left that part out.

As for ducking hooks, in reality its alot harder to do in mma unless you have a height disadvantage or are skilled
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Old 03-21-2018, 03:53 PM   #70
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You shouldn't be able to duck and counter at every range if to close uppercut should go 2 the body not head.Sometimes it shouldn't even have a counter at all just duck and reset like DC did and holm did.

Lunging hooks should put u off balance if there ducked?
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Old 03-28-2018, 02:56 PM   #71
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Still an issue- dont know why
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Old 03-28-2018, 03:03 PM   #72
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This has turned into a witch hunt... I'll look forward to them nerfing this now.

Weve removed counter hook, I no longer sway, we've removed GA on duck, now we want to nerf it even further.

Secret tip: uppercut the duck to stop it.
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