So we go from lightning fast Double Legs to ungodly slow and you all are ok with that

[Paledude45]

Quote: Originally Posted by aholbert32

Thats not how the stats work and thats not realistic at all. With that said, they have done things to decrease how much of an advantage having a dominant grappler is.

How is that not realistic? And yeah I heard and I'm happy about this change. Not sure what you mean about that not being how stats worked. Before the patch I was facing GSP players who knew 2 combinations but were taking me down at will and drilling my head into the canvas with ease while using Masvidal. That's what I meant. I complained that ground stat advantages were too much and received a confirmation from the dev that this was indeed the case.

[chia]

Quote: Originally Posted by aholbert32

Thats not how the stats work and thats not realistic at all. With that said, they have done things to decrease how much of an advantage having a dominant grappler is.

The changes to Crucifix helped that immensely and the range to the double leg was ludicrous but now the transition meters and the slowness to Takedowns make it near impossible to pressure a fighter on the ground. I'm referring to Ultimate Team here. Now everything is duck and sway and Uppercut and hooks. That's not realistic in the least. Shooting a double makes it looks like they are practicing it in the gym.

This is NOT right. You can't honestly say that it is.

[Stunna2006]

i've had no trouble landing takedowns if i dodge a strike before. u cant expect to just power through everyone

[chia]

Quote: Originally Posted by Paledude45

How is that not realistic? And yeah I heard and I'm happy about this change. Not sure what you mean about that not being how stats worked. Before the patch I was facing GSP players who knew 2 combinations but were taking me down at will and drilling my head into the canvas with ease while using Masvidal. That's what I meant. I complained that ground stat advantages were too much and received a confirmation from the dev that this was indeed the case.

So what you are saying is that if a fighter is a ground specialist his rating and transition speed and denials should be equal with someone that is a striker/brawler? Am I reading into that correctly or not?

[chia]

http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/leglockfan/video/45335430

Nothing was done about stamina imbalence either. Look at this silliness. The first double is OK and then look at OSP not burning any stamina trying to regain FULL GUARD on 4* DC with 100top and 95 grapple stamina. DC is burning more stamina on top lol.

Stop it. Just stop.

[Stunna2006]

Quote: Originally Posted by chia

So what you are saying is that if a fighter is a ground specialist his rating and transition speed and denials should be equal with someone that is a striker/brawler? Am I reading into that correctly or not?

definitely should be way closer than they were before. picking a fighter with 100 takedown doesnt mean u should have unstoppable takedowns/transitions, u should still have to set them up to have a chance

[Stunna2006]

Quote: Originally Posted by chia

http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/leglockfan/video/45335430 Nothing was done about stamina imbalence either. Look at this silliness. The first double is OK and then look at OSP not burning any stamina trying to regain FULL GUARD on 4* DC with 100top and 95 grapple stamina. DC is burning more stamina on top lol. Stop it. Just stop.

you are burning through stamina because you are doing back to back transitions without any pause between

[chia]

Quote: Originally Posted by Stunna2006

you are burning through stamina because you are doing back to back transitions without any pause between

What about OSP?