Should Strikes Cost More Stamina

[Boiler569]

I was my man Eddie Alvarez vs. Tony Ferguson

A tough matchup for sure. Tony is long, quick, powerful, and Eddie can't really do much on the ground or clinch against him.

That's OK though I'll work the body and let Tony gas himself.

First Round: Tony throws 150 strikes; 70 of them Sig Strikes. About 45% land. Most were avoided/blocked, only a few were ducked (I don't use much head movement). I work the body where I can but have to be cautious. I'm only able to throw about 60 strikes b/c I have to be on the defensive with 150 strikes coming at me over a 180 second period (Accelerated Clock )

Second Round: Tony comes out with ~95% stamina. Throws 145 strikes, 65 of them Sig Strikes. About 40% land. I rock him a couple times but not able to put him on his butt.

Third Round: Tony comes out with at least 90% Stamina, despite throwing almost 300 strikes in 2 rounds. I'm at about the same level of Stamina, but am clearly losing on the cards. I do my best but lose 2 rounds to 1. He throws about 120 strikes in Round 3, many sig strikes with again a sub-50% hit rate on me.




I know T Ferg has really good stamina. But having someone come out in the 3rd round with 90%+ stamina after throwing ~300 strikes......arghhh



Maybe I need to join the Head Movement Guild as that causes more stamina drain when they miss a strike that way.

But why even move my head if I can make him miss his first 3 shots by moving my feet; then block the fourth shot easily?


I know, I know, to get an uppercut counter, that's why!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



I just wish stamina cost (perm stamina in particular) for strikes was increased by about 25% --- maybe even more if you exceed a certain output threshold in a round.

T Ferg throwing 70 strikes/round ---- yea he can keep that output up all day. But once 100, 120, 150 strikes/round ---- that's gotta gas ya

Baseball pitchers can throw 80-90 pitches in a game without really taxing themselves too badly. Just a couple days rest and you're back.

But throw 110+ in a game and you really can cause damage or at least, a much longer recovery time --- not to mention your pitching effectiveness goes down

Anyway...the poll....do you want an increased PERMANENT stamina tax on strikes?

Specifically excluding short-term stamina. I think that's in a decent spot. I would only be OK with that being changed if the Blocking Power was changed a bit Since it takes at least a 4-piece combo to do any sort of damage to block power....but I digress....PERM STAMINA ONLY for this poll haha

[TheJamesKraus]

The numbers are highly exaggerated because it is after all a game.

I think a slight increase stamina drain on blocked strikes would help, as it is very draining to hit arm/shoulder as shown before IRL.

[GameplayDevUFC]

Keep in mind that an increased stamina tax on blocked strikes in a buff to block.

[Boiler569]

Quote: Originally Posted by GameplayDevUFC

Keep in mind that an increased stamina tax on blocked strikes in a buff to block.

Yes very true. I think focusing on Perm-Stamina helps alleviate some (but not all) of that.

I would prefer that block power be reduce by 10-20% as well. Or, perhaps block-power regeneration is a bit slower. It seems to fully re-generate within 2-3 seconds right now, perhaps that could be more like 4-5 seconds.

[Boiler569]

Quote: Originally Posted by TheJamesKraus

The numbers are highly exaggerated because it is after all a game. I think a slight increase stamina drain on blocked strikes would help, as it is very draining to hit arm/shoulder as shown before IRL.

I feel that the Accelerated Clock accounts for the part that it's just a game So we should still be looking for somewhat-realistic striking numbers given the fact time is accelerated in-game

[TheJamesKraus]

Quote: Originally Posted by GameplayDevUFC

Keep in mind that an increased stamina tax on blocked strikes in a buff to block.

You are right there. Tough to find that balance.

I think people look at the numbers too much, they are probably always going to be exaggerated since there are too many factors.

Also T Ferg has an insane gas tank, his fight in Mexico proves it. He is an outlier and probably not a fair reflection on the overall roster.

One thing I don’t like is the duck uppercut can last throughout 5 rounds, that needs to be changed but stamina drain across the board is already pretty substantial.

[EarvGotti]

Use the lunge to make them miss and drain stamina. It's as effective as head movement when it comes to evades.

[iHazCode]

I want my vote back. I voted for all strikes to have higher stamina penalty, but what I intended (keeping in mind it's a buff to block), is that missed and blocked strikes have a higher stamina penalty.

Also feel like block break down, and long term block will have to be decreased as part of this initiative.