The spinning kick

[AeroZeppelin27]

Quote: Originally Posted by Solid_Altair

It's mostly about how the frames on combos weren't tuned as systematically as for single strikes. Do you guys think this kick is too fast when thrown naked?

No.
Only off a jab or a lead high kick fient.

[AeroZeppelin27]

Quote: Originally Posted by FCB x Finlay

Try the power for yourself, its actually 27 in a row for a ko. The switch kick is responsive, where as the normal roundhouse have this slow start to them, basically making them easy to read. A switch kick to the leg and head are also needed, marlos morias just kod sterling and rivera with one.

This.
I tested the power thing too and it took 28 to
finish. About 20 before any health event.

I wish good liver kicks had a higher chance of a stun, not necessarily more power, just the ability to stun easier.

[Solid_Altair]

Quote: Originally Posted by FCB x Finlay

Try the power for yourself, its actually 27 in a row for a ko. The switch kick is responsive, where as the normal roundhouse have this slow start to them, basically making them easy to read. A switch kick to the leg and head are also needed, marlos morias just kod sterling and rivera with one.

These tests aren't great, though. They don't give you much of a sense of what happens in actual fights, where you can hit people with vulnerability and where the stamina profit you gain from landing the kick adds up from the profit of other actions.

[FCB x Finlay]

I hope this isnt the same with unblocked strikes being up top, not blocking is counted 0 vulnerability and is the baseline for power, GPD confirmed this.

I can show you the power problem with body kicks.

[FCB x Finlay]

Body kicks in game.

http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/fcb-x-finlay-x/video/54106059

Body kicks irl. Which are moving forward btw.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbXeGnrdvFo

Body kick power rear roundhouse, 22 kicks for a ko.

http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/fcb-x-finlay-x/video/54106411

Body kick lead round house, 39 kicks for a ko.

http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/fcb-x-finlay-x/video/54106514

[FCB x Finlay]

Quote: Originally Posted by Solid_Altair

These tests aren't great, though. They don't give you much of a sense of what happens in actual fights, where you can hit people with vulnerability and where the stamina profit you gain from landing the kick adds up from the profit of other actions.

Actually they are good. Your more likely to land kicks over time rather than in one go like this test, so it demenstrates the lack of power even more, it shows how much health each kick takes off your oppenent and how much short term damage is does every time. It also shows what happens when you land it clean, clean shots are when the oppenent isnt blocking or blocking wrong.

Try it with a moving oppenent the results are the same, body kicks simply dont do enough short term damage. They do plenty stamina drain, im not complaining about that, just the power is dramatically low.

I can do a body kick focussed fight, if that helps?

[Solid_Altair]

The problem with body kicks damage would be them being underused at high level. They were, for some time, when we still couldn't partially block the catch punch and there were also other idfferences in the meta that made them kinda bad. But now they seem to be thriving enough.

[FCB x Finlay]

Quote: Originally Posted by Solid_Altair

The problem with body kicks damage would be them being underused at high level. They were, for some time, when we still couldn't partially block the catch punch and there were also other idfferences in the meta that made them kinda bad. But now they seem to be thriving enough.

Only off a jab and for the stamina drain, not the damage.

Try a body kick focussed fight, purely for the damage.