PUSH OFF mechanics - Questions and Issues + How to evolve it

[metodman39]

We don't need to turn this into Parry 2.0

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[SUGATA]

Quote: Originally Posted by metodman39

We don't need to turn this into Parry 2.0 Sent from my WAS-LX1 using Operation Sports mobile app

It is not a parry even close:
1. it does not allow guaranteed counter strike

2. it is impossible to use on reaction, only on very tough anticipation

3. it is slow

4. it is more risky

5. it throw push away opponent making hard close range punish

6. now it requires timing (for interrupt) mush more harder than Parries (nearly impossible to perform on your wish).

[SUGATA]

Quote: Originally Posted by GameplayDevUFC

It's the same speed as a straight to the head.

my be i am the only one who can not interrupt ANY strike by this Push off, but for me it is impossible to make it even ONE time.

What pros/reason from using Push off?

1) Create space - for Kick range - OK, but it costs too much Stamina (the same as BWD adv lunge)

2) it is risky (b/c nearly impossible to interrupt incoming strike not randomly)

3) It does not give any frame advantage when landed so opponent's follow up 2nd strike will crush our follow up strike.

So i dont think Push off is well against incoming striking rushers.

It can be useful may be against fwd moving with block opponents, but it does not even struggle them....

[dfab14]

So far the best use I found for it is to push them into the cage angle go for a takedown most of the time when I use it against the ai they just keep moving back out of kick range

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[xtremeba1000]

I love the push off how it is now honestly. I spam combos to the head to make them block then shove them against the fence and body hook them then thai clinch them to death.

[metodman39]

Quote: Originally Posted by SUGATA

It is not a parry even close: 1. it does not allow guaranteed counter strike 2. it is impossible to use on reaction, only on very tough anticipation 3. it is slow 4. it is more risky 5. it throw push away opponent making hard close range punish 6. now it requires timing (for interrupt) mush more harder than Parries (nearly impossible to perform on your wish).

я просто имел ввиду что даже самую хорошо идею не трудно довести до абсурда.. тем более что у нас уже есть опыт с пэрри в ufc 1 и клинчем в ufc 2

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[metodman39]

Quote: Originally Posted by xtremeba1000

I love the push off how it is now honestly. I spam combos to the head to make them block then shove them against the fence and body hook them then thai clinch them to death.

I completely agree with you, но, but I would only want that it was a little more explosive

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[xtremeba1000]

Quote: Originally Posted by metodman39

I completely agree with you, но, but I would only want that it was a little more explosive Sent from my WAS-LX1 using Operation Sports mobile app

like push them further away or the push to be a faster animation?