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Buff Dan Hooker.
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09-06-2018, 06:17 PM | #25 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Re: Buff Dan Hooker.
Thats what I do. The only difference is I use their performances as one of the guidelines. Not just stats. Not just my opinion of the fighter. All of those things combined. Thats how I determine if someone is better or worse than someone else in the division. When I talk about beating someone in the "top 10" thats just short hand for the forums. I look at Yancy Medieros' two KO's over Alex Olivieria and Erick Silva and those two finishes rank higher to me than Burns' KO's over Saggo and Moret. Now I watched all of those fights live. I was impressed by Burns' power but I will disagree with anyone who thinks those KO's were over better competition than Medieros'. I have no idea if Medieros' comp was ranked at the time. I just have seen them fight and I know how tough they are. So if you ask me RIGHT NOW who should be rated higher in power based on their UFC fights, its Medieros. So thats the thought process. Its not purely using stats (stats weigh more in my mind for things like TDD and accuracy) or where someone is ranked. Its a combination of a lot of things. |
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09-06-2018, 06:19 PM | #26 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Re: Buff Dan Hooker.
I’m just hoping if a guy proves himself against top 10 competition he’d see more of a boost. Leon Edwards beat Cerrone who is a monster in game. If you look at their current ratings Edwards doesnt really stand a chance. Good discussion tho. It’s always cool to get more background in what criteria is used to determine ratings.
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09-06-2018, 06:24 PM | #27 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Re: Buff Dan Hooker.
I believe we've already come to the conclusion that we just have a difference of opinion in the way stats should be done. I GET why you do it the way you do. I just think the gameplay and replayability suffers with your way. |
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09-06-2018, 06:25 PM | #28 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
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09-06-2018, 06:33 PM | #29 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
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My goal isnt to make more ranked players viable. You know I dont give a **** about that. If real life makes them viable then the stats should show that. If not than you either have to deal with that handicap or not use him. I also doubt that elite online ranked players would even use more fighters if we rated them your ways. Comp people always want to use the best when it comes down to it even if there isnt a huge difference between the best. I always find it strange that this game is the only game where I see arguments like this. I dont see anyone playing NBA 2k saying that Steph Curry and Otto Porter should have ratings in the same just because they are both in the NBA. The stats and the tape show that Curry is significantly better so there is no room for debate. Same thing here.
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09-07-2018, 03:01 PM | #30 |
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Re: Buff Dan Hooker.
Do you have a response about Dan Hooker's switch stance stat?
I think you may have missed my comment earlier. Please watch the Hatsu Hioki fight and Yair Rodriquez fight and reassess Hooker's switch stance stat of 80, the lowest possible. When he switches just as much as Wonderboy does ( 99 switch stance) and has KO's from both stances
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09-08-2018, 08:49 AM | #31 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Re: Buff Dan Hooker.
You can easily inspect fighters' physical attributes (KO power, health and stamina) even if they are not facing the best fighters. Francis Ngannou has the highest power stat in the game even though he hasn't knocked out anyone who is known for their chins because it is obvious from watching that he can generate a lot of power. Stipe's resume of guys he has knocked out is much better but no one would argue Stipe should have higher power rating than Ngannou. The game in general is pretty generous with the power stat for KO artists (Perry, Lewis, Lineker, Stephens etc). Yet for some reason cardio machines and extremely resilient guys do not get the same love. I'd say if a fighter beats high levels guys (Your Medeiros example) then he should get more buffs across the board to reflect his technical skills but physical attributes like KO power should be given more generously even if it isn't a brutal KO against top 3 opponent.
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09-08-2018, 11:07 AM | #32 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Re: Buff Dan Hooker.
Yet in game Guida isnt allowed to have elite stamina just because he isnt that good of a fighter overall. Knocking out higher tier competition doesnt make you more powerful because most guys arent higher tier due to physical attributes but instead it’s due to skill. What makes lower guys easier to knock out is their inability to avoid big shots, not their inability to take em. In MMA anyone can get knocked out with the right strike. The best of the best know how to not get hit clean repeatedly. Outside of your freaks like Edgar, Alvarez, Bisping, Romero, Connor who should be given eite durability stats most should have average durability. Then guys with proven weak chins like Overeem, Struve, Vick(he’s def lookin a lil chinny) should have the lower ratings for their division. That should apply regardless of competition.
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