General Consensus: Speed/Difficulty/Minutes

[LingeringRegime]

Just curious to what everyone is using.

These are my current settings...

Speed: -1
Difficulty: Pro
Minutes: 10

I am thinking about bumping it up to Top Player, just worried that weaker teams will become Juggernauts.

[rckabillyRaider]

Re: General Consensus: Speed/Difficulty/Minutes

those are my settings as well and I'm getting good games and stats.

[Whitesox]

Re: General Consensus: Speed/Difficulty/Minutes

10 minute halves or 10 minute games? I've been playing 20 minute games, but I think that is a bit too much, considering my halves actually last longer since I'm using the kitserver speeder module to slow the game down (since PC STILL DOESN'T HAVE A NEGATIVE SPEED SETTING).

[LingeringRegime]

Re: General Consensus: Speed/Difficulty/Minutes

10 minute halves or 10 minute games? I've been playing 20 minute games, but I think that is a bit too much, considering my halves actually last longer since I'm using the kitserver speeder module to slow the game down (since PC STILL DOESN'T HAVE A NEGATIVE SPEED SETTING).

I guess it is ten minutes games. It is the default time setting. I don't think my hands can handle much more than that. Plus, I like to be able to get in games in a fairly quick manner.

[Dope1ne]

Re: General Consensus: Speed/Difficulty/Minutes

-2
Top Player
10 Minutes

[LingeringRegime]

Re: General Consensus: Speed/Difficulty/Minutes

-2
Top Player
10 Minutes

Hmmm. That sounds interesting. I may try that a few times in Exhibition Mode to get my feet wet.

[KG]

Re: General Consensus: Speed/Difficulty/Minutes

15 mins
Professional
Speed - 0

[jvalverde88]

Re: General Consensus: Speed/Difficulty/Minutes

Speed: -1

Difficulty: Top Player

Minutes: 15, thinking about dropping to 10.

[LingeringRegime]

Re: General Consensus: Speed/Difficulty/Minutes

Speed: -1

Difficulty: Top Player

Minutes: 15, thinking about dropping to 10.

After much testing, this is the setting I think I will go with for the long haul. 15 minutes takes some time to get used to, but with the difficulty it makes for a very tense, realistic experience. Goals are much more satisfying, and when you give up an opening goal, you really feel in danger of losing the game. On Pro the defensive pressure seems a little too relaxed for my tastes.

[ezio]

Re: General Consensus: Speed/Difficulty/Minutes

Speed: 0 but may go to -1

Difficulty: Top Player

Time: 10 Minutes

[chadskee]

Re: General Consensus: Speed/Difficulty/Minutes

Just curious to what everyone is using.

These are my current settings...

Speed: -1
Difficulty: Pro
Minutes: 10

I am thinking about bumping it up to Top Player, just worried that weaker teams will become Juggernauts.

I didn't find Top Player to be overwhelming at all, some even say it's a bit easier to score on than professional since the computer AI seems to attack more. If you can score on professional I don't think you'll have a problem on Top Player.

[therizing02]

Re: General Consensus: Speed/Difficulty/Minutes

Speed -1
Minutes 20
Still figuring out the level.

Regular

-CPU defending in the box is a joke. At time there is no reaction.
-More realistic results and performance differences between top teams and less talented teams.
-Less inconsistencies in performance from the USER team.
-No CPU speed cheat and or catch up/recovery speed.
-Easier to make dribble moves.
-I always dominate possession on this level

Professional

-The talent differences between top teams and lower level teams is reduced.
-CPU gets away with more fouls.
-Inexplicable passing at times. I think the passing is atrocious in this game. Sometimes when I hold the button down for a long pass, the pass is chipped. Press the directional stick towards 9 o'clock and the ball goes in the 3 o'clock direction. What's worse is that the passing is even worse and less than reliable in your own penalty area.
-The CPU speed cheat starts to show up. If I have Aaron Lennon in a full sprint down the wing, Michael Carrick should NEVER be able to run him down.
-Through balls are ridiculously easy.

Top Player

-Game just feels scripted to me. Not just for the CPU but for both players. The "I just scored now it's your turn to score within 3 minutes of my goal" is so obvious and I'm sick of it.
-Passing is painfully erratic and unpredictable
-Obvious CPU speed cheat
-CPU gets away with virtually every sliding tackle.
-To add to the scripting thing, there are way too many instances where a pass goes towards one of my players and he won't even attempt to receive the pass. He'll just let it roll right to a CPU player. It happens to the CPU as well. I notice the problem happening even more to the team in the lead.
-The differences between top teams and lower level teams is basically non existent. With that being said, if you play a game on Top Player with two evenly matched teams I think this level plays the best.
-Tactical decisions mean much more than on the lower levels.
-Realistic possession stats.
-Fatigued players are more noticeable.
-Form arrows mean a lot more on this level

Bottom line for me is that while there are some obvious positives and negatives for each level it still seems that Regular is too easy, but when you move to Pro and Top Player the unpredictability of passing, CPU speed cheats, and scripting become painfully obvious at times.

Tough call.
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[LingeringRegime]

Re: General Consensus: Speed/Difficulty/Minutes

Great analysis riz. I was looking for a breakdown like this. I see what you mean with Top Player. Was playing tonight, and the player I was "controlling" became uncontrollable, lol. It's like he wasn't willing to take the angles I wanted him too. I think I will go back to pro again, seems to be a happy medium between the two.

[Guffers]

Re: General Consensus: Speed/Difficulty/Minutes

You break it down really well Riz. I play on pro as well. I tried top player for a while but I think its just reserved for when you have absolutely mastered the game and can't be beaten on any other level. I get wayyyy too frustrated when I can see the CPU is getting an blatant advantage via cheating. Pro seems to be getting me realistic stats and results so thats where I will stay.

[phillyfan23]

Re: General Consensus: Speed/Difficulty/Minutes

Speed: -2
Level: Top Player
Time: 20 mins

I disagree with therizing that there is any kind of scripting on top player. I play exhibition matches, league and tourneys (world cup, champs league, etc). Do not play master league where complaints of scripting were prevalent in past PES games.

It's very different playing teams with different skill levels. Something I didn't feel in fifa 11. I don't experience the score one goal and the cpu scores bacsk right away. Won plenty of blowout wins, even some with similar rated teams and once beat barcelona 3-0 using atletico madrid. Rare, but happens.

I do agree that there are still some intances where you slightly misfire a pass and the human teammate just lets it go even though it's right next to him. i'd say I see this once a game on average. Maybe even less than that, but it is pretty annoying when it happens.

My sole big complaint of top player ? cpu have very high rates of success on their free kicks. Made me edit all Short FK takers free kick accuracy down by 30 points. much better now....but still tedious and tiring to edit this stuff.