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Re: Konami Clarifies eFootball Information Following Trailer Reveal
Re: Konami Clarifies eFootball Information Following Trailer Reveal
Hated the idea at first but the more I think/read about it I think it could end up being great. To their point, if all I play is Master League it would be nice to only have to pay for that and would expect more improvements to it than other sports games do their franchise mode since they are essentially selling the mode. Many other sports games rarely update their franchise mode anymore.
Also, they will not have to worry about the strict cut-off period there is for the yearly games which should keep the development running more efficient year-round.
I think it is going to be a rough start until they get all the teams/modes up and running but when they do I think it will show everyone the benefits of this model. I think everyone is just hesitant to change which is human nature.
Re: Konami Clarifies eFootball Information Following Trailer Reveal
Re: Konami Clarifies eFootball Information Following Trailer Reveal
Imagine if they had released a 6 minute trailer with all the random bits that have been in covered or clarified in the first place. Instead we were shown a vague roadmap, told the game is now free, terrible graphics with clipping and poor rendering and clips of Pique and Iniesta talking about random football topics(seriously KG I thought you knew the ambassadors lol)
F2P helps the mobile version and MyClub make them money so I don't have to pay $70 for modes I'm not interested in and I only pay for master league at a reasonable price... let's do this. I don't find f2p inherently bad as what most people think of is crappy mobile games. Fortnite, Apex Legends, Rocket League, tons of MMOs all are f2p and are good games. It really comes down to how much gets locked behind a paywall.
Some of what still needs to been known
- will ML available at launch if not how soon after.
- Is ML a one time DLC and then we just pay for updated kits/rosters every year?
- What, if anything in ML will behind a paywall.
- OF will they be the same, more robust or is this going to stripped back to force user to pay for 3rd kits, leagues etc. via mtx.
The roadmap was just about cross play basically. Which I don't really care about.
So I'm guessing the early autumn is technically the demo period/official release. Since it seems pretty bare bones. This also marks the last time we'll get a "demo" since yearly releases are no more. Also early autumn does that mean the actual fall equinox around Sept. 20/21 or is that code for early September.
Konami thought killing off the PES name and announcing the game was free would get people excited without much context outside of vague statements and a roadmap, yeah no that's a recipe for disaster. Whoever signed off on yesterday's announcement clearly doesn't know what they are doing.
I'll give the game a shot since it's free as I'd rather not play that other game.
Re: Konami Clarifies eFootball Information Following Trailer Reveal
Re: Konami Clarifies eFootball Information Following Trailer Reveal
Originally posted by jrnlgrn
Imagine if they had released a 6 minute trailer with all the random bits that have been in covered or clarified in the first place. Instead we were shown a vague roadmap, told the game is now free, terrible graphics with clipping and poor rendering and clips of Pique and Iniesta talking about random football topics(seriously KG I thought you knew the ambassadors lol)
F2P helps the mobile version and MyClub make them money so I don't have to pay $70 for modes I'm not interested in and I only pay for master league at a reasonable price... let's do this. I don't find f2p inherently bad as what most people think of is crappy mobile games. Fortnite, Apex Legends, Rocket League, tons of MMOs all are f2p and are good games. It really comes down to how much gets locked behind a paywall.
Some of what still needs to been known
- will ML available at launch if not how soon after.
- Is ML a one time DLC and then we just pay for updated kits/rosters every year?
- What, if anything in ML will behind a paywall.
- OF will they be the same, more robust or is this going to stripped back to force user to pay for 3rd kits, leagues etc. via mtx.
The roadmap was just about cross play basically. Which I don't really care about.
So I'm guessing the early autumn is technically the demo period/official release. Since it seems pretty bare bones. This also marks the last time we'll get a "demo" since yearly releases are no more. Also early autumn does that mean the actual fall equinox around Sept. 20/21 or is that code for early September.
Konami thought killing off the PES name and announcing the game was free would get people excited without much context outside of vague statements and a roadmap, yeah no that's a recipe for disaster. Whoever signed off on yesterday's announcement clearly doesn't know what they are doing.
I'll give the game a shot since it's free as I'd rather not play that other game.
After 2 years and sprinkles here & there about things like “moving to the unreal engine”, “new partner clubs”, and the like you roll decide to roll out THAT POS trailer?
This is what we were sold on for graphics
And this is what we got
Why would you even show the game like that? Like, who OK’d that trailer and those gameplay clips? They could have used a suped-up modded PC version if they’re not ready yet which everything about this trailer screams “it’s not ready yet”. They don’t even have names for some of their modes and it’s basically going to be a demo at release. Konami have always sucked at PR and relied on Adam’s Twitter following to clean up messes but man that’s just unfair to him. Just a clusterfck of a release that just so happens to coincide with EA opening up the floodgates for info on ‘22.
All that being said, it’s F2P with ala carte mode offerings so I don’t understand how anyone could be against that. If EA did that and folks had to only pay ~$30 for a game with no FUT people would be extremely happy. Anyway, it’s definitely going to be worth checking out and hopefully they release tidbits of info from here until late August.
I wish I knew those guys although Pique wouldn’t be too happy with my jab [emoji23]
Re: Konami Clarifies eFootball Information Following Trailer Reveal
I thought the Pique jab was well warranted lol.
Thanks for the information collected here, definitely a little breath of air for me. I hope but don't expect that making ML an additional DLC means that more effort is into it because customers will actually putting money specifically toward that game mode. I've been loyal to PES to a fault over the years but atleast this way I get to test it out for free before spending my money to play a stale ML.
Re: Konami Clarifies eFootball Information Following Trailer Reveal
Re: Konami Clarifies eFootball Information Following Trailer Reveal
I'm a no on this. I only play off line and spend more time in league or cup than an ML mode that didn't get updated for the entire generation. I'll stick with 20 or the season update. Fairly certain ebaseball 2021 grand slam will be the last purchase from konami unless a lot is made right.
Re: Konami Clarifies eFootball Information Following Trailer Reveal
Re: Konami Clarifies eFootball Information Following Trailer Reveal
How you can you both be so hyperbolic before the game has even launched? We've heard nothing about DLC pricing or what Master League is going to look like this year. The game could very well end up sucking but it could also ended up costing $30 with an improved ML.
How do you know a DLC of Master League will never present a step forward? AFAI, it has never been attempted in a major sports title. I really don't get the hate and panic at this stage. How does everyone losing their mind about this not have permanently high blood pressure? Everything must be so intense for you.
Originally posted by stocksy
Damage done for me.
Not interested in a FTP model. It’s not exciting and they killed PES.
A DLC of the master league will not ever present a step forward.
Gutted tbh
Originally posted by maltliquor23
I'm a no on this. I only play off line and spend more time in league or cup than an ML mode that didn't get updated for the entire generation. I'll stick with 20 or the season update. Fairly certain ebaseball 2021 grand slam will be the last purchase from konami unless a lot is made right.
Re: Konami Clarifies eFootball Information Following Trailer Reveal
Re: Konami Clarifies eFootball Information Following Trailer Reveal
It will be interesting to see what the new ML will even be. I'm skeptical of this whole setup personally. But they have been doing a free version for a few years. So they clearly have stats that backup what they are doing. It will be interesting to see how this plays out with the DLC options for other modes. And how long that actually lasts.
Re: Konami Clarifies eFootball Information Following Trailer Reveal
Re: Konami Clarifies eFootball Information Following Trailer Reveal
Definitely in wait and see mode on this. Still enjoying PES 2020 in the mean time. I would love to support eFootball 2022 but only if Master League represents an upgrade from what I'm playing now.
Edit: Also, the option files absolutely must remain.
Re: Konami Clarifies eFootball Information Following Trailer Reveal
Re: Konami Clarifies eFootball Information Following Trailer Reveal
The fact Master League isn't coming until January/February is enough for me to be done with Konami. Obviously we (Master League) players mean nothing to them and their priority is online and mobile. Pass. Back to FIFA, yuck.
Re: Konami Clarifies eFootball Information Following Trailer Reveal
Re: Konami Clarifies eFootball Information Following Trailer Reveal
Originally posted by wilbursaurus
The fact Master League isn't coming until January/February is enough for me to be done with Konami. Obviously we (Master League) players mean nothing to them and their priority is online and mobile. Pass. Back to FIFA, yuck.
I'd rather wait if it means we get a quality ml dlc.
Better that rushing out a pile of ****.
Re: Konami Clarifies eFootball Information Following Trailer Reveal
in madden, FIFA NBA 2k franchise mode career mode and gm mode has been terrible for many years with a few updates and you pay 60-80 $ for the game at least let give to Konami a chance this year what they can do with this new business model, if they improve the offlines mode by charging some amount as DLC and probably cheaper than 60$ i m in i prefer this cause pay 60 just to play franchise is stupid that why i didn't buy any sport game last 3 years
Re: Konami Clarifies eFootball Information Following Trailer Reveal
Re: Konami Clarifies eFootball Information Following Trailer Reveal
...just gutted. Not at all hopeful or optimistic...though I'll wait and see, I guess. Though even as I say that, I can hear the children screaming in the ruins.
FIFA is so awful... so bad...
PS4 forever for me, I'm guessing.
Can't wait to play as Merseyside Red with watered down controls and strategic options...
😒🤮
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