Better Call Saul Season 4 (8-6-18)

[pietasterp]

Quote: Originally Posted by lowpaiddonkey10

So how many more seasons are they planning on doing?

One more season after this one ends next week. Bummer. But that will be the end of the "Breaking Bad" universe, according to Vince Gilligan.

[JayBee74]

There was a lady that worked with me in a small Post Office many years ago who was revealed to be something other than what she portrayed and it wasn't flattering. The catalysis that brought things to the surface was a particular task that she felt was beneath her and things spiraled out of control after that. She wasn't a monster, just a phony. Her saccharin sweet disposition and mother of the year persona further crumbled when it came to light that she was discreetly but aggressively going after a younger man in the office even as we heard nightly stories of her wonderful husband and family. The several pronged revelation was shocking and her shame had her leaving a solid paying job two months after all this went down. She had three years in at the time.

Why the long preamble? Because tonight's episode, just like that couple of weeks in 1986 I kept saying WTF, WTF over and over again. Anybody that wants to make excuses for

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Kim being under the "Saul influence" can do so and I don't know how Gilligan will play this down the road but should this come down to Kim just showing her true colors?

EDIT: The bottom line is

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Kim wanted to leave her high demand job for lesser pressure and to feel good about herself. She's even out-Jimmying Jimmy. He was just hard pranking Howard- she is willing to torch Howard's career and do it criminally.

It was still a great episode and I didn't feel disillusioned. I like that they had the guts to go there.

[Cavsfan4life]

Quote: Originally Posted by JayBee74

There was a lady that worked with me in a small Post Office many years ago who was revealed to be something other than what she portrayed and it wasn't flattering. The catalysis that brought things to the surface was a particular task that she felt was beneath her and things spiraled out of control after that. She wasn't a monster, just a phony. Her saccharin sweet disposition and mother of the year persona further crumbled when it came to light that she was discreetly but aggressively going after a younger man in the office even as we heard nightly stories of her wonderful husband and family. The several pronged revelation was shocking and her shame had her leaving a solid paying job two months after all this went down. She had three years in at the time. Why the long preamble? Because tonight's episode, just like that couple of weeks in 1986 I kept saying WTF, WTF over and over again. Anybody that wants to make excuses for Spoiler Kim being under the "Saul influence" can do so and I don't know how Gilligan will play this down the road but should this come down to Kim just showing her true colors? EDIT: The bottom line is Spoiler Kim wanted to leave her high demand job for lesser pressure and to feel good about herself. She's even out-Jimmying Jimmy. He was just hard pranking Howard- she is willing to torch Howard's career and do it criminally. It was still a great episode and I didn't feel disillusioned. I like that they had the guts to go there.

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Its crazy what a week can do to change a narrative,and I loved it. Jimmy may have some influence over her but even this episode hes trying to get her down from going at Howard.Like you mentioned, she left her job and went to work pro bono, and now we can say its about her feeling good about herself vs. helping people.How do you go from wanting to help people to wanting to take down a guys career so quickly? That's a mindset I dont think just happens.

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Nacho sealed his fate, and to almost no fault of his own. Got stuck in the middle of something he didn't want to be apart of. Lalo will probably get to Nacho, looking forward to how this shakes out with Mike and Gus, knowing what we know from BB.

[JayBee74]

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[Cavsfan4life]

Quote: Originally Posted by JayBee74

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https://youtu.be/dRZNyWwor4U

[pietasterp]

Quote: Originally Posted by Cavsfan4life

Spoiler Its crazy what a week can do to change a narrative,and I loved it. Jimmy may have some influence over her but even this episode hes trying to get her down from going at Howard.Like you mentioned, she left her job and went to work pro bono, and now we can say its about her feeling good about herself vs. helping people.How do you go from wanting to help people to wanting to take down a guys career so quickly? That's a mindset I dont think just happens.

Short version: I agree.

Longer version:

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I agree that it seemed a little sudden/over-the-top in terms of Kim going dark side so hard and so suddenly, and I didn't love that abrupt turn. What makes her such a likeable and compelling character is that she is basically a good person that does some shady things, but feels tremendous guilt about it, and generally the shenanigans she is involved in amount to pretty minor things. Up to now, she's been sort of a love-able scamp (emphasis on love-able).

Having said that, they did give you some hints in the past that she was a little more mischievous than she lets on, but it seems such an odd juxtaposition to her better tendencies. She and Jimmy scamming people at the bar is sort of in the category of "good fun". She and Jimmy scheming to screw over Mesa Verde to allow that guy to keep his house definitely goes beyond "good fun". And in that case, Jimmy warned her not to take it further, and she insisted that they should continue to take it to the mattresses, so that was sort of the first sign that she has a bit more of a mean streak than she had previously let on. Nevertheless, this latest turn seems really extreme.

Quote: Originally Posted by Cavsfan4life

Spoiler Nacho sealed his fate, and to almost no fault of his own. Got stuck in the middle of something he didn't want to be apart of. Lalo will probably get to Nacho, looking forward to how this shakes out with Mike and Gus, knowing what we know from BB.

Agree (sort of):

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I love Nacho, that dude is an awesome character, but it's definitely his fault he's in this situation, since he's the one that decided to get involved in the drug game to begin with. It's his 'original sin' so to speak, and he's about to pay for it. I would not want Lalo Salamanca coming after me. I mean, I wouldn't want anyone coming after me LOL but Lalo especially. Tony Dalton does such a great job with that character.

Although we know Gus/Mike come out okay, it'll just be interesting to see how it all goes down.

[lowpaiddonkey10]

Got close to a year to wait for the final season? I guess Billions come back before this.

[JayBee74]

Quote: Originally Posted by lowpaiddonkey10

Got close to a year to wait for the final season? I guess Billions come back before this.

Billions started shooting the last five episodes of season five (Covid halted production and stalled the aired episodes at 7) in March which will air sometime this year. Season 6 should air in 2022.

Yeah, BCS will have about a two year gap between the fifth season and the final sixth season.