All-Time Cowboys

[Dianwei32]

I wasn't really sure whether to post this in the general forum or the Roster subforum... I chose here because I'm not making a roster file, just one team. I want to make an all-time Cowboys roster, but I need some help on who to include. The order players are listed is the order I was planning to have them on the Depth Chart (mainly relevant for QB/HB/WR/CB)

QB- Roger Staubach, Troy Aikman
HB- Emmitt Smith, Marion Barber, Tony Dorsett
FB- Daryl Johnston
WR- Michael Irvin, Drew Pearson, Terrell Owens, Alvin Harper, "Bullet" Bob Hayes
TE- Jay Novacek, Jason Witten
C- Mark Stepnoski, Dave Manders
G- Larry Allen, Leonard Davis, Nate Newton, John Niland
T- Flozell Adams. Erik WIlliams, Rayfield Wright, Ralph Neely

DE- Ed "Too Tall" Jones, Charles Haley, Tony Tolbert
DT- Bob Lilly, Randy White, Leon Lett
OLB- DeMarcus Ware, Thomas "Hollywood" Henderson, D.D. Lewis
ILB- Ken Norton Jr, Lee Roy Jordan, Dat Nguyen, Zach Thomas
CB- Deion Sanders, Mel Renfro, Everson Walls, Kevin Smith, Cornell Green
FS- Cliff Harris, Brock Marion
SS- Charlie Waters, Darren Woodson

K- Nick Folk
P- Mat McBriar

EDIT: Bolded names have been added thanks to suggestions from others.

[Derrville]

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QB: Don Merideth, Danny White
RB: Tony Dorsett, Walt Garrison, Calvin Hill
FB: Robert Newhouse, Don Perkins
WR: Tony Hill, Bob Hayes,
TE: Billy Joe Dupree, Doug Cosbie
C: Mark Stepnoski, Dale Hellestre, Dave Manders
G: Nate Newton, Tom Rafferty, John Niland
T: Rayfield Wright, Erik Williams, Mark Tuinei, Ralph Neely, Pat Donovan

DE: Harvey Martin, Charles Haley, Jim Jeffcoat
DT: Leon Lett , Tony Casillas, Chad Hennings, Jethro Pugh
OLB: Thomas Henderson, D.D Lewis
ILB: Lee Roy Jordan, Chuck Howley, Dat Nguyen
CB: Everson Walls, Kevin Smith, Cornell Green
FS: Brock Marion
SS: Darren Woodson

P: John Jett
K: Raphel Septian, Chris Boniol

[permanent1]

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Bob lilly has to be number one on the DT list besides being Mr.cowboy he is also known by most as one of the top 1-2 DT's ever to play the game,mel renfro at corner,cliff harris and charlie waters at safety.

[goratory666]

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herschel walker? really?? tony dorrsett didnt come to your mind first, lol?

[PGaither84]

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Even as a 49ers fan I couldn't help wanting to chime in on an All-Time team.
From my perspective I figured I would post an All-Time Cowboys roster I would least like to face. Keep in mind I am talking about a team unit and not just a list of the "best cowboys ever." For example; While I don't think that Marion Barber is the 3rd best cowboy running back, I think he provides a talent at that position that others don't. Also, While Emmit Smith is the All-Time leading rusher, I'd be more afraid of Tony Dorsett as the starter. Lastly, are we talking about players who just happened to be Cowboys at some point, or how good those players were as Cowboys? For example: Zack Thomas isn't "All-Time" good in Dallas, but he is FANTASTIC MLB in regards to his carrer In Miami.


QB: Roger Staubach, "Dandy" Don Merideth
RB: Tony Dorsett, Emmitt Smith, Marion "the Barbarion" Barber
FB: Daryl "Moose" Johnston, Don Perkins
WR: Michael Irvin, "Bullet" Bob Hayes, "T.O." Terrell Owens,
TE: Billy Joe Dupree, Jay Novacek
C: Mark Stepnoski, Dave Manders
G: Larry Allen, John Niland
T: Rayfield Wright, Erik Williams

DE: Ed "Too Tall" Jones, Charles Haley *doubles as a OLB*
DT: Randy White, Bob Lilly, Chad Hennings
OLB: DeMarcus Ware *doubles as a DE*, D.D. Lewis
ILB: Ken Norton Jr., Zack Thomas, Lee Roy Jordan, Dat Nguyen
CB: Deion Sanders, Everson Walls, Cornell Green, Mel Renfro
FS: Brock Marion
SS: Darren Woodson

P: Danny White
K: Mike Vanderjagt

Go ahead and question my kicker Mike Vanderjagt all you want, He played POORLY as a cowboy but was a very good Kicker in Indy untill the end of his carrer. He is the kind of Kicker that has worn a Cowboys uniform that I would want in his prime I would fear the most, make any sence?

Also, for those that don't know Danny White [yes the QB] was the feature Punter for Dallas whiel he was there. It made the defense/special teams play softer because any Punt could be a fake. Danny Kicked 610 punts from 1976 till 1988 with an average distance of 40.2 ypa.

The idea of swapping Ware and Haley around in various 4-3 and 3-4 Scheems and having them float around pre-play is scarry.

[Dianwei32]

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herschel walker? really?? tony dorrsett didnt come to your mind first, lol?

Yea... after Emmitt and Marion, I just drew a huge blank. The first other HB of note that came to mind was Walker, but as soon as someone mentioned Dorsett I felt really stupid for not thinking of him first.

[Hooe]

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I'll give this a shot:

QB - Troy Aikman, Roger Staubach, Danny White, Tony Romo
HB - Emmitt Smith, Tony Dorsett, Calvin Hill, Herschel Walker
FB - Daryl Johnston, Robert Newhouse
WR - Michael Irvin, Drew Pearson, Bob Hayes, Tony Hill
TE - Jay Novacek, Jason Witten, Billy Joe Dupree
OT - Rayfield Wright, Erik Williams, Mark Tuinei
OG - Larry Allen, John Niland, Nate Newton
C - Mark Stepnoski

DE - Charles Haley, Too Tall Jones, Jim Jeffcoat, Harvey Martin
DT - Bob Lilly, Randy White, Leon Lett
OLB - Demarcus Ware, Hollywood Henderson, Chuck Howley
ILB - Lee Roy Jordan, Ken Norton Jr.
CB - Deion Sanders, Mel Renfro, Everson Walls, Cornell Green
FS - Cliff Harris, Brock Marion
SS - Darren Woodson, Charlie Waters

K - Rafael Septein
P - John Jett

[puja21]

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I wasn't really sure whether to post this in the general forum or the Roster subforum... I chose here because I'm not making a roster file, just one team. I want to make an all-time Cowboys roster, but I need some help on who to include. The order players are listed is the order I was planning to have them on the Depth Chart (mainly relevant for QB/HB/WR/CB)

QB- Roger Staubach, Troy Aikman
HB- Emmitt Smith, Marion Barber, Herschel Walker?
FB- Daryl Johnston
WR- Michael Irvin, Drew Pearson, Terrell Owens, Alvin Harper, Rajib "Rocket" Ismail
TE- Jay Novacek, Jason Witten
C- ???
G- Larry Allen, Leonard Davis, ???
T- Flozell Adams. ???

DE- Ed "Too Tall" Jones, ???
DT- Bob Lilly, Randy White
OLB- DeMarcus Ware, ???
ILB- Ken Norton Jr, ???
CB- Deion Sanders, Mel Renfro, Terrance Newman, ???
FS- Cliff Harris, Ken Hamlin?
SS- Charlie Waters, Roy Williams?

K- Nick Folk or Billy Cundiff
P- Mat McBriar

Any ideas/comments/suggestions/errors?

i know it was just a first effort but it makes me smile that you have 11 players from the 2008 team that couldnt even crack the playoffs...for an all-time team of a franchise with 5 super bowl titles, 8 conference titles & the most playoff games in NFL history. not to mention rocket ismael has one 1000 yd season & avg'd 3 TDs per season. a #3 deep receiver should not be on an all-time team IMO

and roy williams was cut in the prime of his career-- can't be on there

i know it's just kicking but a 2 year pro vs an undrafted free agent who is currently inactive, played for 6 teams in 7 years and has zero notable kicks, records or achievements either on any of his own teams or league wide. there have got to be ten better kickers.

just trying to help you out

[puja21]

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also, others already mentioned Erik Williams, Tuinei, Newton, & Stepnoski but when you have the #1 rusher in NFL history, who is always undermined for playing behind one of the greatest offensive lines... you've gotta put more than just Larry Allen in there

[Dianwei32]

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i know it was just a first effort but it makes me smile that you have 11 players from the 2008 team that couldnt even crack the playoffs...for an all-time team of a franchise with 5 super bowl titles, 8 conference titles & the most playoff games in NFL history. not to mention rocket ismael has one 1000 yd season & avg'd 3 TDs per season. a #3 deep receiver should not be on an all-time team IMO

and roy williams was cut in the prime of his career-- can't be on there

i know it's just kicking but a 2 year pro vs an undrafted free agent who is currently inactive, played for 6 teams in 7 years and has zero notable kicks, records or achievements either on any of his own teams or league wide. there have got to be ten better kickers.

just trying to help you out

also, others already mentioned Erik Williams, Tuinei, Newton, & Stepnoski but when you have the #1 rusher in NFL history, who is always undermined for playing behind one of the greatest offensive lines... you've gotta put more than just Larry Allen in there

For Folk vs. Cundiff, those are really the only 2 Cowboys kickers I know of (also some foreign guy, name was French I think, who played back in the 70's), I didn't want to just put Folk up there by himself.

As for so many guys from the '08 season, most of them are good/elite players (TO, Witten, Ware, and McBriar are all in the top few of their position, a least skill-wise for TO). I mainly put Hamlin and Williams up there because I needed backups and was drawing blanks on Darren Woodson and Brock Marion.

I really needed help on the line (partially why I threw Adams and Davis in there), I knew that Emmitt was criticized for being behind an amazing O-line, but I didn't actually know anyone who was on that line aside from Allen. I didn't know Ismail's numbers when I picked him, I was just running through Cowboys WRs in my head and his name came up before "Bullet" Bob Hayes.