Just got the new PSM with football reviews

[Smashmouth]

"But to categorize ALL madden players as such is being uninformed. I mean after all the majority of NFL Players play what?"

Nobody categorized ALL madden players as being uninformed. And, the pros playing the game...do you really think they are going simulation style and worried about realism and whatnot...or do you think that most just wanna pick up and play and have fun with their buddies? More importantly, do most even know the 2k series exists? lol, they probably do but you get my point.

[Graphik]

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Graphik said:
I'm sick of ppl saying Madden is for kids, and 2K3 is for ppl who understand Xs and Os. And where have you heard someone call Madden the most realistic football game. I know just as much about Xs and Os as any of yall. But I prefer Madden.

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Well, to be honest, it's a very common post that Madden is the most realistic of the games. Just as it is a common post that ESPN is the most realistic. I think you're lieing if you are honestly saying that you have NEVER seen someone post that Madden is the more realistic game. We get hundreds of those every football season on OS.

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And dont sweat the post man. It just gets to me when ppl make post like that. You really think that the majority of MAdden players are kids? Then you must dont realize its a Madden Bowl every year where thousands of 20-30+ year olds battle for a trophy.

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What's the age requirement on the Madden Bowl? I don't believe minors (I think under 16) can enter. Also, even if it is open entry, how many 12-13 year olds will get their parents to chauffer them to the event and stand around for 6 hours while they play. EA has the numbers. They do sell millions of units to kids. Far more then Sega does.

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Sorry to anyone if I took this thread of topic but I'm just a defender of non-sensible post like the one I quoted.

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Now you are being contradictory when you apologize to anyone who took umbrage, yet called their posts non-sensible. Wouldn't that be like me telling my wife that I am really sorry that I think she is a bitch!?!?!?

POST SCRIPT

This is not a bash on Madden or more importantly on Graphik. My point is for every point in the Madden/Sega clash there is a counterpoint....AND for every counterpoint, there is another counterpoint. It is a never-ending circle.

Someone thinks Madden is played by children that know X's and O's...... SO!!!!!!!!

That's an opinion. It's not like they slapped your Mama or something.

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Damn Clay, you sure know how to make somebody feel low. You must of been taking BDoughty's classes or something. Thats alright, I'll just do what Heel does in these situations.

Clay...You Suck!!!


And may bad to the other poster I qouted. I know its your opinion and all and I did'nt have to blow up on you but I kinda get wood debating Madden vs. 2K3. Alright, that was a lil bit too much info right there.

[bucs44]

Well Im not letting some magazine determine my buy especially a psm. I play xbox and if sega made this a hell of a single player game, fixed AI,etc Im buying it. From what Ive seen in the videos in both games madden looks like 2003 with owner mode and Espn2k4 looks like they actually did some hard work (not saying they didnt have to catch up) but Madden looks like the first one they released on the ps2 launch.

[mackandmoon]

On the topic of the NFL players: The average age of the NFL is 28 yrs. old. Subtract 14 years from that total & it means that the majority of these players have been playing Madden since they were 14 years old. Madden is not only a game but a institution. So it will always be here no matter what which is kinda unfair to the other game developers because their game often times does not get reviewed on it's own merits but against the most popular football title of all time that everyone grew up playing.

[Klue516]

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mackandmoon said:
On the topic of the NFL players: The average age of the NFL is 28 yrs. old. Subtract 14 years from that total & it means that the majority of these players have been playing Madden since they were 14 years old.

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How did you come to that conclusion

[LBzrule]

Yes, I overstated what you were saying. But to say that madden is for people who don't know X's and O's is a stretch. And you are correct, they might not be sim balling at all.

[Klue516]

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LBzrule said:
What did Gameday get?

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[DaHokieBird]

Ahh, the debate continues over ESPN and Madden will go on forever.

One quick question. I hated the playcalling screens in the NFL2Ks, are they any different this year. I haven't been following the games that closely this year.

Thanks,
DaHokieBird