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Old 07-29-2003, 04:25 PM   #17
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I'm thinking the same thing. PS3 and the next XBOX xomes out in 2005 I blieve. That gives us one more year of Madden and ESPN to enjoy on the consoles now. I bet both teams are already working on the next consoles games already. Remember MAdden was one of PS2s launch titles. Who says that wont change with PS3.
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Old 07-29-2003, 04:25 PM   #18
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It's evident. Who's has the best graphics, you can't say EA does. Gameplay in 2k series is more real every year, since they go back and rework what the issues were from the previous year. If you go back and play nfl 2k2 and look at the graphics, they look nothing compared to 2k3. The same will be for 2k4. Maddens graphics are no way taking advantage of the consoles power not even the PS2. The PS2 version of Madden looks like the XBOX version. How can you sit here and say Madden will update and upgrade when they hardly do it now. The evidence is in thier games and I don't understand how people make it seem like they have done so much from year to year. Madden 2001 resembles 2004. NFL 2k2 looks nothing like 2k4.
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Old 07-29-2003, 04:30 PM   #19
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We were(well I am) talking about next gens consoles. How do you know EA wont upgrade thier player models. They never have on PS2 and XBOX because they dont have to. I find hardly anything wrong with thier player models. Yes, 2Ks are better but so what, thats not the point. The point is, how do you know they will never upgrade. unless you can see into the future. BTW, the gameplay being better in 2K is your opinion. Dont speak for everyone.
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How can you sit here and say Madden will update and upgrade when they hardly do it now.




Well, Madden updated from the PS to the PS2. Why wouldn't they from the PS2 to the PS3?
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Old 07-29-2003, 04:32 PM   #21
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It's evident. Who's has the best graphics, you can't say EA does. Gameplay in 2k series is more real every year, since they go back and rework what the issues were from the previous year. If you go back and play nfl 2k2 and look at the graphics, they look nothing compared to 2k3. The same will be for 2k4. Maddens graphics are no way taking advantage of the consoles power. PS2 version of Madden looks like the XBOX version. How can you sit here and say Madden will update and upgrade when they hardly do it now. The evidence is in thier games and I don't understand how people make it seem like they have done so much from year to year. Madden 2001 resembles 2004. NFL 2k2 looks nothing like 2k4.




Notice I said they take advantage of the PS2's power and they're not working their butts off with the XBOX because they have issues with MS.

As for graphics, there's a sizable minority on this site and i'm sure elsewhere that prefers Madden's graphics over ESPN. The graphics between both games are stylistically different but the actual quality is about the same to the casual observer. Also Madden's graphics/anims are a bit more smoother then ESPN's.

Gameplay wise, EA has taken the approach of "if it aint broke then don't fix it". They've gone through very tiny incremental changes with the gameplay but it's definately the same classic MADDEN gameplay that gamers have grown to love (or hate). They've added the playmaker this year and this seems to be the biggest innovation that they've made in some time. They've also added tougher DB play and such just like NCAA. So to say that they don't change AT ALL would be wrong.

I believe that we're going in circles trying to argue this out so i'll bow out now but I hope that this thread can continue to be somewhat civil.
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Old 07-29-2003, 04:32 PM   #22
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Well, Madden updated from the PS to the PS2. Why wouldn't they from the PS2 to the PS3?





He must be to young to even have played the PS1. If he talking like that.
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Old 07-29-2003, 04:35 PM   #23
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Oh yea, now that I think about it.....why do you care if they update thier player models. I thought the only thing you cared about was GAMEPLAY. Am I right.
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Old 07-29-2003, 04:55 PM   #24
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They will upgrade, yes, but they won't take full advantage of the systems and they have shown that ever since the PS2 and XBOX came out. Madden 2001 resembles 2004 with no big difference. I just feel that the same will happen with EA on next gen consoles in thier attitude if we change the look to much consumers might not react well to the change. That is why thier games year to year look so similar but that won't fly on next gen consoles . ESPN's games even though the look of them especially this year is near perfect won't fly on next gen consoles but they will have the advantage big time as thier games year to year don't keep resemble that of two years earlier and have shown us that they make big changes in the way thier games look and play each year. Madden fans have gotten use to the way players look in the game so if Madden makes a big change in the look of the game fans will be turned off by this. That is why ESPN will be leading the way on next gen consoles. Sorry if this is offensive to Madden fans but it's the truth and how business works. If Madden made player models like 2k all the sudden next year it wouldn't feel like Madden and fans of Madden would get turned off by this drastic change.
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