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Old 09-02-2003, 05:52 PM   #9
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Re: Slightly OT: xbox and 720p

First, I wouldn't trust anything about HDTV from Best Buy. One guy told me that 720p WAS NOT HDTV, but 480p was.

If your TV can do 720p and\or 1080i, it's considered HDTV. Very few TV's can display native 720p; some upconvert to 1080i, others (like my Sony) downconvert to 480p. Some of you are thinking, "Well, that doesn't do me much good. Every other game is 480p, so I won't see much of a difference." There is a differece in picture quality, and the TV will detect the signal as true HD -- it will force itself to 16:9 aspect, and you can't change it like you can on standard def. signals.

I doubt running it through a receiver will help much either. I haven't seen one with a component-in, and I doubt it's worth the $500 to get a converter\receiver. I'm betting that those reviewing the game in 720p were actually seeing 480p or 1080i.
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Is the reciever the HD box that you would get from Comcast to get HD channels to use for your HDTV?

I have a HD tv but it only supports 480p and 1080i. I would love to see the game in 720p and your post gives me some hope.
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Old 09-02-2003, 05:59 PM   #11
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1080i would be fine with me, I think my toshiba probably down converts it to 480p though. Since most tv don't do 720p natively, why the heck do games not just run in 1080i by design? I would think ALL high def tv's do this.
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Old 09-02-2003, 06:04 PM   #12
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Re: Slightly OT: xbox and 720p

OK here it goes...

in order to get 720 you need:

1) an HDTV that can handle 720 NATIVELY or an HDTV that upconverts it, INSIDE THE TV, to 1080i. There are no HD set-top boxes that have COMPONENT IN, so they wont be able to convert it for you. It is all about the HDTV iteself for this scenario.

2) A scaler... All this does is take INOUT and OUTPUT 1080i for our case here where the HDTV cannot handle 720p natively.

3) a new HDTV that can handle 720p itself.

All of the above scenarios require the MS HDTV AV PACK FOR THE XBOX.

Check with your HDTV manufacturer and see if it can handle 720p(or upconvert to 1080i) on its own. Scalers, like in scenario 2, are not cheap.

Hope it helps.

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Old 09-02-2003, 06:05 PM   #13
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Re: Slightly OT: xbox and 720p

My Hitachi runs all 3(480, 720, and 1080). NBA2K3 and WSB2k3 looks absolutely BEAUTIFUL! I rented Fever and was shocked to see the game only runs in 480, I would think Microsoft would choose to highlight their games in 720p goodness, but I guess not.
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Re: Slightly OT: xbox and 720p

My TV upconverts anything over 480p to 1080i (Toshiba DW65X91), and I'm pretty sure anything with a high def reciever built-in or out will do the same. If all you have is a HDTV monitor without the reciever your stuck at 480p.
I'm pretty sure the above statement is correct, I'm only positive about my TV.
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Old 09-02-2003, 06:08 PM   #15
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My TV upconverts anything over 480p to 1080i (Toshiba DW65X91), and I'm pretty sure anything with a high def reciever built-in or out will do the same. If all you have is a HDTV monitor without the reciever your stuck at 480p.
I'm pretty sure the above statement is correct, I'm only positive about my TV.





You are right man.. It depends on the tv itself...

Early adopters are screwed as few of those sets handle 720p.

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My TV upconverts anything over 480p to 1080i (Toshiba DW65X91), and I'm pretty sure anything with a high def reciever built-in or out will do the same. If all you have is a HDTV monitor without the reciever your stuck at 480p.
I'm pretty sure the above statement is correct, I'm only positive about my TV.






That's what I've got.....a 16:9 HDTV 43" Monitor, it's a Toshiba and to this point I only use it for 480p. That having been said, are you saying I need a high def reciever
to do 720p or 1080i. If this were the case, then wouldn't it be feasible to buy a reciever with component video in and then run the xbox to it as a high def signal source? Wouldn't it then send that signal to my HDTV as something it could use?
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