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Nivek · 05-01-2004, 06:34 PM

Plus, A LOT of people who aren't hardcore football fans know who TO is, so that player recognition will help adversting a bit.

SportsK1NG · 05-01-2004, 06:36 PM

Even if they play commercial after commcerial the game still isn't called Madden so they won't get those fans who have recognized the madden name for a 10 years.

jmood88 · 05-01-2004, 06:39 PM

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nivek said:
Plus, A LOT of people who aren't hardcore football fans know who TO is, so that player recognition will help adversting a bit.

But if no one outside of the hardcore fans then all that recognition will be worth nothing. It is good that they have TO in the game but they need to show it off. I don't mean right now but they have shown that they don't like to advertise.

Nivek · 05-01-2004, 06:56 PM

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Even if they play commercial after commcerial the game still isn't called Madden so they won't get those fans who have recognized the madden name for a 10 years.

I'm not talking about in terms of sales...I'm saying with TO, it will spark more intrest. Which in turn MIGHT bring sales up. But let's face it, VC can dump 10 million dollars into advertising, it STILL WON'T TOUCH MADDEN in terms of sales! Madden is apart of not only football, but American(and worldwide) culture. The name Madden is a machine...you can't stop it unless it chooses to stop itself. I think VC has realized this and it's now trying to tame the sales of Madden rather then trying to beat it. VC want's to be #1 in both sales and in terms of gameplay, but with respect to sales...it will be a while.

jmood88 · 05-01-2004, 06:59 PM

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nivek said:

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SportsK1NG said:
Even if they play commercial after commcerial the game still isn't called Madden so they won't get those fans who have recognized the madden name for a 10 years.

I'm not talking about in terms of sales...I'm saying with TO, it will spark more intrest. Which in turn MIGHT bring sales up. But let's face it, VC can dump 10 million dollars into advertising, it STILL WON'T TOUCH MADDEN in terms of sales! Madden is apart of not only football, but American(and worldwide) culture. The name Madden is a machine...you can't stop it unless it chooses to stop it's self. I think VC has realized this and it's now trying to tame the sales of Madden rather then trying to beat it. VC want's to be #1 in both sales and in terms of gameplay, but with respect to sales...it will be a while.

I know that, vc can't really win with sells but if they advertised at least a little more then they did last year then their sales would go up. They can't hope to sell more than madden when madden has been out 10-15 years longer and is out on 6 platforms.

jordan0386 · 05-01-2004, 07:00 PM

it doesnt matter to me...cause im not buying madden this year anyway...i'll play ball extensivly for those two weeks...i buy madden every yr...knowing i like 2k more...this trend is mute as of right now!

Dagreat1 · 05-01-2004, 07:01 PM

Jmood what has EA done? They released some screenshots and Sega did too. Calm down lil one Sega will go head 2 head this year with Madden.

Nivek · 05-01-2004, 07:04 PM

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SportsK1NG said:
Even if they play commercial after commcerial the game still isn't called Madden so they won't get those fans who have recognized the madden name for a 10 years.

I'm not talking about in terms of sales...I'm saying with TO, it will spark more intrest. Which in turn MIGHT bring sales up. But let's face it, VC can dump 10 million dollars into advertising, it STILL WON'T TOUCH MADDEN in terms of sales! Madden is apart of not only football, but American(and worldwide) culture. The name Madden is a machine...you can't stop it unless it chooses to stop it's self. I think VC has realized this and it's now trying to tame the sales of Madden rather then trying to beat it. VC want's to be #1 in both sales and in terms of gameplay, but with respect to sales...it will be a while.

I know that, vc can't really win with sells but if they advertised at least a little more then they did last year then their sales would go up. They can't hope to sell more than madden when madden has been out 10-15 years longer and is out on 6 platforms.

The thing with that is, advertising more is pretty much useless. (and VC knows this) If they can't grab attention with the words ESPN in their games...then I dunno what else they can do. Yeah, sure Konami [censored] up the words "ESPN" in terms of videogames, but I'd say less 25% precent of the casual gamers actually remember how crappy those games are.

05-01-2004, 06:34 PM	#9
Nivek Hll f Fm OVR: 28 Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 8,006	Re: This is what I hate about Sega. Plus, A LOT of people who aren't hardcore football fans know who TO is, so that player recognition will help adversting a bit.

05-01-2004, 06:36 PM	#10
SportsK1NG Banned OVR: 6 Join Date: Apr 2004	Re: This is what I hate about Sega. Even if they play commercial after commcerial the game still isn't called Madden so they won't get those fans who have recognized the madden name for a 10 years.

05-01-2004, 06:39 PM	#11
jmood88 Sean Payton: Retribution OVR: 40 Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 34,640 Blog Entries: 1	Re: This is what I hate about Sega. Quote: *nivek said:* Plus, A LOT of people who aren't hardcore football fans know who TO is, so that player recognition will help adversting a bit. But if no one outside of the hardcore fans then all that recognition will be worth nothing. It is good that they have TO in the game but they need to show it off. I don't mean right now but they have shown that they don't like to advertise.

05-01-2004, 06:56 PM	#12
Nivek Hll f Fm OVR: 28 Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 8,006	Re: This is what I hate about Sega. Quote: *SportsK1NG said:* Even if they play commercial after commcerial the game still isn't called Madden so they won't get those fans who have recognized the madden name for a 10 years. I'm not talking about in terms of sales...I'm saying with TO, it will spark more intrest. Which in turn MIGHT bring sales up. But let's face it, VC can dump 10 million dollars into advertising, it STILL WON'T TOUCH MADDEN in terms of sales! Madden is apart of not only football, but American(and worldwide) culture. The name Madden is a machine...you can't stop it unless it chooses to stop itself. I think VC has realized this and it's now trying to tame the sales of Madden rather then trying to beat it. VC want's to be #1 in both sales and in terms of gameplay, but with respect to sales...it will be a while.

05-01-2004, 06:59 PM	#13
jmood88 Sean Payton: Retribution OVR: 40 Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 34,640 Blog Entries: 1	Re: This is what I hate about Sega. Quote: *nivek said:* Quote: *SportsK1NG said:* Even if they play commercial after commcerial the game still isn't called Madden so they won't get those fans who have recognized the madden name for a 10 years. I'm not talking about in terms of sales...I'm saying with TO, it will spark more intrest. Which in turn MIGHT bring sales up. But let's face it, VC can dump 10 million dollars into advertising, it STILL WON'T TOUCH MADDEN in terms of sales! Madden is apart of not only football, but American(and worldwide) culture. The name Madden is a machine...you can't stop it unless it chooses to stop it's self. I think VC has realized this and it's now trying to tame the sales of Madden rather then trying to beat it. VC want's to be #1 in both sales and in terms of gameplay, but with respect to sales...it will be a while. I know that, vc can't really win with sells but if they advertised at least a little more then they did last year then their sales would go up. They can't hope to sell more than madden when madden has been out 10-15 years longer and is out on 6 platforms.

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05-01-2004, 07:00 PM	#14
jordan0386 Banned OVR: 18 Join Date: May 2003 Location: Bronx, NY	Re: This is what I hate about Sega. it doesnt matter to me...cause im not buying madden this year anyway...i'll play ball extensivly for those two weeks...i buy madden every yr...knowing i like 2k more...this trend is mute as of right now!

05-01-2004, 07:01 PM	#15
Dagreat1 Banned OVR: 2 Join Date: Feb 2004	Re: This is what I hate about Sega. Jmood what has EA done? They released some screenshots and Sega did too. Calm down lil one Sega will go head 2 head this year with Madden.

05-01-2004, 07:04 PM	#16
Nivek Hll f Fm OVR: 28 Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 8,006	Re: This is what I hate about Sega. Quote: *jmood88 said:* Quote: *nivek said:* Quote: *SportsK1NG said:* Even if they play commercial after commcerial the game still isn't called Madden so they won't get those fans who have recognized the madden name for a 10 years. I'm not talking about in terms of sales...I'm saying with TO, it will spark more intrest. Which in turn MIGHT bring sales up. But let's face it, VC can dump 10 million dollars into advertising, it STILL WON'T TOUCH MADDEN in terms of sales! Madden is apart of not only football, but American(and worldwide) culture. The name Madden is a machine...you can't stop it unless it chooses to stop it's self. I think VC has realized this and it's now trying to tame the sales of Madden rather then trying to beat it. VC want's to be #1 in both sales and in terms of gameplay, but with respect to sales...it will be a while. I know that, vc can't really win with sells but if they advertised at least a little more then they did last year then their sales would go up. They can't hope to sell more than madden when madden has been out 10-15 years longer and is out on 6 platforms. The thing with that is, advertising more is pretty much useless. (and VC knows this) If they can't grab attention with the words ESPN in their games...then I dunno what else they can do. Yeah, sure Konami [censored] up the words "ESPN" in terms of videogames, but I'd say less 25% precent of the casual gamers actually remember how crappy those games are.

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