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jmood88 · 06-13-2004, 12:57 PM

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the person who wants it more will push the button faster and win..

This is y it isnt real. Who ever pushes it the fastest wins, is unrealistic. In madden u hold it down to speed burst, but if u do it to much you RB will get tired faster. Say u have a break out run with your runningback and during that play your holding speed burst, depending on your runningbacks stamia he will lose his top speed during the play. Even if your holding down the speed burst. That is more realistic IMO.

The players do start slowing down in espn. You can't just push the button and they go the same speed.

Never said players in ESPN didnt slow down. But the gamer with best button mashing skills on the speed burst button, will win the battles, not based on speed but the quicker mashing. That's all Im saying.

It is based on the speed. It's not like the players move way faster than they are supposed to. A player like jerry rice will not run faster than donte' stallworth just because someone is tapping the button faster. It depends on the speed of the player. The speed burst gives a little bit of speed but not alot.

Silverstring · 06-13-2004, 01:10 PM

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It is based on the speed. It's not like the players move way faster than they are supposed to. A player like jerry rice will not run faster than donte' stallworth just because someone is tapping the button faster. It depends on the speed of the player. The speed burst gives a little bit of speed but not alot.

Again, no one is disputing the disparity of speed between Rice and Stallworth. What we are saying is that your version of Jerry Rice or Donte Stallworth may run faster than mine, depending on how hard/fast we push the button controlling the SAME player. It's not as though Orlando Pace will turn into a world-class sprinter at the hands of an expert button-masher. If you deny that, you just haven't been playing ESPN(If fact, even the training videos for 2K5 mention something along the lines of, "the faster you tap the button, the faster you will go".) Again, that's just not realistic.

jmood88 · 06-13-2004, 01:12 PM

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It is based on the speed. It's not like the players move way faster than they are supposed to. A player like jerry rice will not run faster than donte' stallworth just because someone is tapping the button faster. It depends on the speed of the player. The speed burst gives a little bit of speed but not alot.

Again, no one is disputing the disparity of speed between Rice and Stallworth. What we are saying is that your version of Jerry Rice or Donte Stallworth may run faster than mine, depending on how hard/fast we push the button controlling the SAME player. It's not as though Orlando Pace will turn into a world-class sprinter at the hands of an expert button-masher. If you deny that, you just haven't been playing ESPN(If fact, even the training videos for 2K5 mention something along the lines of, "the faster you tap the button, the faster you will go".) Again, that's just not realistic.

They will not run faster than another person if they don't have a higher speed rating.

SageInfinite · 06-13-2004, 01:14 PM

I dont know Ive had jerry Rice outrun a few people he shouldnt have.

jmood88 · 06-13-2004, 01:19 PM

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I dont know Ive had jerry Rice outrun a few people he shouldnt have.

I haven't been able to make anyone run faster than they should've.

poopie · 06-13-2004, 01:19 PM

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It is based on the speed. It's not like the players move way faster than they are supposed to. A player like jerry rice will not run faster than donte' stallworth just because someone is tapping the button faster. It depends on the speed of the player. The speed burst gives a little bit of speed but not alot.

Again, no one is disputing the disparity of speed between Rice and Stallworth. What we are saying is that your version of Jerry Rice or Donte Stallworth may run faster than mine, depending on how hard/fast we push the button controlling the SAME player. It's not as though Orlando Pace will turn into a world-class sprinter at the hands of an expert button-masher. If you deny that, you just haven't been playing ESPN(If fact, even the training videos for 2K5 mention something along the lines of, "the faster you tap the button, the faster you will go".) Again, that's just not realistic.

yeah, i heard that in the training video too. thats why i started this thread.but hey its too late to cry over spilled milk. its in the game.all i can hope for now is that the defensive players take better pursuit angles ,that would cut down on the speed burst issue.

jmood88 · 06-13-2004, 01:21 PM

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It is based on the speed. It's not like the players move way faster than they are supposed to. A player like jerry rice will not run faster than donte' stallworth just because someone is tapping the button faster. It depends on the speed of the player. The speed burst gives a little bit of speed but not alot.

Again, no one is disputing the disparity of speed between Rice and Stallworth. What we are saying is that your version of Jerry Rice or Donte Stallworth may run faster than mine, depending on how hard/fast we push the button controlling the SAME player. It's not as though Orlando Pace will turn into a world-class sprinter at the hands of an expert button-masher. If you deny that, you just haven't been playing ESPN(If fact, even the training videos for 2K5 mention something along the lines of, "the faster you tap the button, the faster you will go".) Again, that's just not realistic.

yeah, i heard that in the training video too. thats why i started this thread.but hey its too late to cry over spilled milk. its in the game.all i can hope for now is that the defensive players take better pursuit angles ,that would cut down on the speed burst issue.

That's already been addressed.

schel · 06-13-2004, 01:29 PM

The thing I don't like about Madden is that there are only 2 speeds for each player. "Run" and "run fast". That's not realistic either. In ESPN, there are many speeds your player can run at. If a good stamina and momentum system are installed, I think the way ESPN handles it would be better. The problem is they don't have either yet. Also, a thing that would fix the running would be to not make it "the faster you tap the button, the faster you go". Instead, they should make it so you tap X for every step you want to take. Anybody should be able to keep up with that, and at the same time you would be able to control your speed perfectly.

06-13-2004, 12:57 PM	#33
jmood88 Sean Payton: Retribution OVR: 40 Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 34,640 Blog Entries: 1	Re: speed burst Quote: *MrE_Gamer said:* Quote: *jmood88 said:* Quote: *MrE_Gamer said:* Quote: *KSC82186 said:* the person who wants it more will push the button faster and win.. This is y it isnt real. Who ever pushes it the fastest wins, is unrealistic. In madden u hold it down to speed burst, but if u do it to much you RB will get tired faster. Say u have a break out run with your runningback and during that play your holding speed burst, depending on your runningbacks stamia he will lose his top speed during the play. Even if your holding down the speed burst. That is more realistic IMO. The players do start slowing down in espn. You can't just push the button and they go the same speed. Never said players in ESPN didnt slow down. But the gamer with best button mashing skills on the speed burst button, will win the battles, not based on speed but the quicker mashing. That's all Im saying. It is based on the speed. It's not like the players move way faster than they are supposed to. A player like jerry rice will not run faster than donte' stallworth just because someone is tapping the button faster. It depends on the speed of the player. The speed burst gives a little bit of speed but not alot.

06-13-2004, 01:10 PM	#34
Silverstring Pro OVR: 10 Join Date: Feb 2003	Re: speed burst Quote: *jmood88 said:* It is based on the speed. It's not like the players move way faster than they are supposed to. A player like jerry rice will not run faster than donte' stallworth just because someone is tapping the button faster. It depends on the speed of the player. The speed burst gives a little bit of speed but not alot. Again, no one is disputing the disparity of speed between Rice and Stallworth. What we are saying is that your version of Jerry Rice or Donte Stallworth may run faster than mine, depending on how hard/fast we push the button controlling the SAME player. It's not as though Orlando Pace will turn into a world-class sprinter at the hands of an expert button-masher. If you deny that, you just haven't been playing ESPN(If fact, even the training videos for 2K5 mention something along the lines of, "the faster you tap the button, the faster you will go".) Again, that's just not realistic.

06-13-2004, 01:12 PM	#35
jmood88 Sean Payton: Retribution OVR: 40 Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 34,640 Blog Entries: 1	Re: speed burst Quote: *Silverstring said:* Quote: *jmood88 said:* It is based on the speed. It's not like the players move way faster than they are supposed to. A player like jerry rice will not run faster than donte' stallworth just because someone is tapping the button faster. It depends on the speed of the player. The speed burst gives a little bit of speed but not alot. Again, no one is disputing the disparity of speed between Rice and Stallworth. What we are saying is that your version of Jerry Rice or Donte Stallworth may run faster than mine, depending on how hard/fast we push the button controlling the SAME player. It's not as though Orlando Pace will turn into a world-class sprinter at the hands of an expert button-masher. If you deny that, you just haven't been playing ESPN(If fact, even the training videos for 2K5 mention something along the lines of, "the faster you tap the button, the faster you will go".) Again, that's just not realistic. They will not run faster than another person if they don't have a higher speed rating.

06-13-2004, 01:14 PM	#36
SageInfinite Stop The GOAT Talk OVR: 40 Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: NJ Posts: 11,916	Re: speed burst I dont know Ive had jerry Rice outrun a few people he shouldnt have.

06-13-2004, 01:19 PM	#37
jmood88 Sean Payton: Retribution OVR: 40 Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 34,640 Blog Entries: 1	Re: speed burst Quote: *SageTheInfinite said:* I dont know Ive had jerry Rice outrun a few people he shouldnt have. I haven't been able to make anyone run faster than they should've.

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06-13-2004, 01:19 PM	#38
poopie Rookie OVR: 5 Join Date: Feb 2003	Re: speed burst Quote: *Silverstring said:* Quote: *jmood88 said:* It is based on the speed. It's not like the players move way faster than they are supposed to. A player like jerry rice will not run faster than donte' stallworth just because someone is tapping the button faster. It depends on the speed of the player. The speed burst gives a little bit of speed but not alot. Again, no one is disputing the disparity of speed between Rice and Stallworth. What we are saying is that your version of Jerry Rice or Donte Stallworth may run faster than mine, depending on how hard/fast we push the button controlling the SAME player. It's not as though Orlando Pace will turn into a world-class sprinter at the hands of an expert button-masher. If you deny that, you just haven't been playing ESPN(If fact, even the training videos for 2K5 mention something along the lines of, "the faster you tap the button, the faster you will go".) Again, that's just not realistic. yeah, i heard that in the training video too. thats why i started this thread.but hey its too late to cry over spilled milk. its in the game.all i can hope for now is that the defensive players take better pursuit angles ,that would cut down on the speed burst issue.

06-13-2004, 01:21 PM	#39
jmood88 Sean Payton: Retribution OVR: 40 Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 34,640 Blog Entries: 1	Re: speed burst Quote: *poopie said:* Quote: *Silverstring said:* Quote: *jmood88 said:* It is based on the speed. It's not like the players move way faster than they are supposed to. A player like jerry rice will not run faster than donte' stallworth just because someone is tapping the button faster. It depends on the speed of the player. The speed burst gives a little bit of speed but not alot. Again, no one is disputing the disparity of speed between Rice and Stallworth. What we are saying is that your version of Jerry Rice or Donte Stallworth may run faster than mine, depending on how hard/fast we push the button controlling the SAME player. It's not as though Orlando Pace will turn into a world-class sprinter at the hands of an expert button-masher. If you deny that, you just haven't been playing ESPN(If fact, even the training videos for 2K5 mention something along the lines of, "the faster you tap the button, the faster you will go".) Again, that's just not realistic. yeah, i heard that in the training video too. thats why i started this thread.but hey its too late to cry over spilled milk. its in the game.all i can hope for now is that the defensive players take better pursuit angles ,that would cut down on the speed burst issue. That's already been addressed.

06-13-2004, 01:29 PM	#40
schel Rookie OVR: 1 Join Date: Aug 2003	Re: speed burst The thing I don't like about Madden is that there are only 2 speeds for each player. "Run" and "run fast". That's not realistic either. In ESPN, there are many speeds your player can run at. If a good stamina and momentum system are installed, I think the way ESPN handles it would be better. The problem is they don't have either yet. Also, a thing that would fix the running would be to not make it "the faster you tap the button, the faster you go". Instead, they should make it so you tap X for every step you want to take. Anybody should be able to keep up with that, and at the same time you would be able to control your speed perfectly.