Different perspective on the low price

[Brandwin]

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ESPN NFL 2K5 will sell more units that Madden2005.

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I wish...but I doubt it, at least this yr man.

[Diadem]

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GCrusher23 said:

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TDKing said:

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ODogg said:
I think it's great they are going with the lower price but I think $29.99 would have been better. The reason is I wonder if people will think it's TOO cheep so there must be something wrong with it. Usually games that are ultra cheep are garbage. People know this in general so I just hope it's not too low that it backfires.

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Also just glancing at the price may make people think its last
years game cause older games are usually cheaper.

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As dumb as this sounds it's a very good point.

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That's why I think they should make the 2005 more visible on the cover.

[jordan0386]

you guys and this casual gamer thing are making people sound stupid
Everyone knows whats hot and whats not...its up to them to purchase it or not...
Everyone talks about the things we talk about...probably not to the extent we do...but people know their videogames...you gotta give them more credit than that

[Diadem]

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jordan0386 said:
you guys and this casual gamer thing are making people sound stupid
Everyone knows whats hot and whats not...its up to them to purchase it or not...
Everyone talks about the things we talk about...probably not to the extent we do...but people know their videogames...you gotta give them more credit than that

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True Jordan, But we live in a world where people have spent millions going to see both Charlie's Angels movies.

[Rocky]

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sportsgeist said:
I'll tell you whats gonna happen.

First of all VC/ESPN will have a review copy of ESPN NFL 2K5 out the same time or earlier than Madden2005 so what happened last year won't happen. Where EA said they were the best rated football game out and no other game was even out yet. That won't happen this year.

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That's a pretty good idea. The ESPN 2K5 cover should have a big ol IGN and Gamespot label saying what rating it got. Hardcore gamers may not so much care about these ratings but casual gamers do.

ESPN 2004 got a 9.3 rating from IGN and a 9.2 rating from Gamespot. I can't imagine ESPN2K5 doing any worse, Sega needs to let consumers know this. Hell, maybe even a 5/5 rating from OS would do the trick

[wwharton]

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jordan0386 said:
you guys and this casual gamer thing are making people sound stupid
Everyone knows whats hot and whats not...its up to them to purchase it or not...
Everyone talks about the things we talk about...probably not to the extent we do...but people know their videogames...you gotta give them more credit than that

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stupid is often used in exchange for uninformed which is a very bad idea. causal gamers are most definitely uninformed. the more appropriate term would be ignorant which also sounds negative but is more accurate. it's not much of an assumption either. any consumer with limited information on one product and previous success with a different product will generally spend their money on what they know rather than take a chance of wasting their money on an unknown product that has no guarantee of being to their liking. it's not always about what's hot UNLESS there is no competition. a perfect example is Nike is always hot but they make pretty bad running shoes (or they did at least 2 years ago...can't speak for now). if you don't know much about different brands of running shoes and want to buy shoes specifically for running you'll probably by nike b/c you know alot about the company.

btw the first charlie's angels was pretty good for what it was. if you try to take it seriously you're missing the point,really but that's a COMPLETEY different topic.

[jordan0386]

what im getting at is the whole casual gamer thing is stupid...we are in 2004...magzines websites tv channels...there is nothing casual about videogames...its a lifestyle for many

imo...everyone who plays sports videogames know who and what madden is and what espn is, along with the other brands...the fact is simple that majority feel that madden is the best...the goal is for VC to make games that tell them otherwise...

another thing...how many parents still buy games for their children...c'mon with that nonsense...what are 9 yr olds doing playing complicated sports games anyway...arent they playing the 'backyard' versions that are out now

to sum it up, give people more credit when it comes to games...also get rid of the whole casual non sense

[wwharton]

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jordan0386 said:
what im getting at is the whole casual gamer thing is stupid...we are in 2004...magzines websites tv channels...there is nothing casual about videogames...its a lifestyle for many

imo...everyone who plays sports videogames know who and what madden is and what espn is, along with the other brands...the fact is simple that majority feel that madden is the best...the goal is for VC to make games that tell them otherwise...

another thing...how many parents still buy games for their children...c'mon with that nonsense...what are 9 yr olds doing playing complicated sports games anyway...arent they playing the 'backyard' versions that are out now

to sum it up, give people more credit when it comes to games...also get rid of the whole casual non sense

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that's a very closed minded opinion. there is a HUGE range of gamers out there. some love games enough to go all over the net or at least check out magazines and others buy the upgrade of the game they like every year until that game doesn't feel good to them. then there is the majority of casual gamers who get a game to just play when they have friends over. they will go with (as you said) the hot game which in this case is madden. even if they knew of the 2k series most of these people still don't know it's the same as espn. games don't control their lives. they buy a new one when they see the commercials and won't spend time doing a bunch of research.

and the times haven't changed, parents still buy kids games ALL THE TIME. last i checked the jobs you can get in HS don't really pay the rent and there are still many kids that don't work until after college. even if they have a few bucks to get their own games they may opt to push for the game for a birthday or christmas in which case the parent, aunt, whatever would buy it and wrap it rather than giving them the money or going with them to the store.