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SoMiss2000 · 07-01-2004, 09:40 AM

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Dark_Lord_Vader said:

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SoMiss2000 said:
who the heck cares? this price drop is so 1 month ago.

Well, we should care because this is a little bit of a gamble on Sega's part. A lot of money could be lost if the strategy backfires and Sega does not get double or even triple the fan base they had last year. (2k4)

worst case scenerio, the company folds and is picked up by another publisher. Maybe even Microsoft. We shouldn't be worried about next year. This year's game isn't even out.

Shaver · 07-01-2004, 09:42 AM

VC is rolling the dice. It's really a black and white issue. It either works (they move 600,000+ units) or they bust and fold. Game developing in always a gamble. VC is "All In".

frina · 07-01-2004, 09:55 AM

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SoMiss2000 said:
who the heck cares? this price drop is so 1 month ago.

...and here I thought a forum was a place where you discuss issues....after reading that this is "so 1 month ago" I realize we are just the E! Channel of Sports Gaming...

Dark_Lord_Vader · 07-01-2004, 09:56 AM

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VC is rolling the dice. It's really a black and white issue. It either works (they move 600,000+ units) or they bust and fold. Game developing in always a gamble. VC is "All In".

I agree Clay. Do you think the earlier poster is right in that VC could just go to another Publisher other than Sega if it does not work? My fear is that they bring the name with them, cursing the future of the Franchise.

Shaver · 07-01-2004, 09:59 AM

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Dark_Lord_Vader said:

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Clay_OS said:
VC is rolling the dice. It's really a black and white issue. It either works (they move 600,000+ units) or they bust and fold. Game developing in always a gamble. VC is "All In".

I agree Clay. Do you think the earlier poster is right in that VC could just go to another Publisher other than Sega if it does not work? My fear is that they bring the name with them, cursing the future of the Franchise.

I heard (a rumor) that Sega/Take Two wants VC to concentrate on Non-Sports gaming. Maybe they are already planning that move? Maybe MS canceled Fever because they have an agreement to buy the 2K franchise and ESPN license next year? It will be interesting.

frina · 07-01-2004, 10:00 AM

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Clay_OS said:
VC is rolling the dice. It's really a black and white issue. It either works (they move 600,000+ units) or they bust and fold. Game developing in always a gamble. VC is "All In".

I believe it is Take-Two who is probably behind the roll and they probably have the money to do it. The really interesting thing will be if it does work and then they face backlash when they raise the price (if they do) back to $49.99. One of the things I have always been taught as a salesman is that once you lower price you set expectations and it is hard to back to the higher price.

burnwood · 07-01-2004, 10:06 AM

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frina said:

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Clay_OS said:
VC is rolling the dice. It's really a black and white issue. It either works (they move 600,000+ units) or they bust and fold. Game developing in always a gamble. VC is "All In".

I believe it is Take-Two who is probably behind the roll and they probably have the money to do it. The really interesting thing will be if it does work and then they face backlash when they raise the price (if they do) back to $49.99. One of the things I have always been taught as a salesman is that once you lower price you set expectations and it is hard to back to the higher price.

Meh, but that's for salesmen. Nobody sells video games like products salemen sell. People generally decide for themselves.

Graphik · 07-01-2004, 10:09 AM

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frina said:

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Clay_OS said:
VC is rolling the dice. It's really a black and white issue. It either works (they move 600,000+ units) or they bust and fold. Game developing in always a gamble. VC is "All In".

I believe it is Take-Two who is probably behind the roll and they probably have the money to do it. The really interesting thing will be if it does work and then they face backlash when they raise the price (if they do) back to $49.99. One of the things I have always been taught as a salesman is that once you lower price you set expectations and it is hard to back to the higher price.

If all goes well this year for Sega, it'll be EA lowering the price next year with a whole new name change to get its fans back.

I rubbed my crystal ball this morning and it said that ESPN 2K5 will exceed expectations.

I mean we all know about the game, its not like its a first year title. The game has been out for years now.Even casual fans know about the 2K series. Anybody who has the slightest interest in buying another football game will automatically pick up ESPN for the lower price. Not to say they wont still try Madden but common sense tells us that alot of ppl are fed up with the game and EA as a whole. I talked to my "casual gaming friends" the other day and they all are getting somewhat tired of EA. If thats any example of whats really on a casual gamers mind when it comes to EA, then I dont know what is.

Sega will eventually steal tons of EA fans this year and next year sell the game at 39.99 and EA will more than likely also lower to 39.99. The crystal ball does'nt lie.

07-01-2004, 09:40 AM	#41
SoMiss2000 Hall Of Fame OVR: 32 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Dallas Posts: 20,501 Blog Entries: 2	Re: EA comments on the $20.00 price tag Quote: *Dark_Lord_Vader said:* Quote: *SoMiss2000 said:* who the heck cares? this price drop is so 1 month ago. Well, we should care because this is a little bit of a gamble on Sega's part. A lot of money could be lost if the strategy backfires and Sega does not get double or even triple the fan base they had last year. (2k4) worst case scenerio, the company folds and is picked up by another publisher. Maybe even Microsoft. We shouldn't be worried about next year. This year's game isn't even out.

07-01-2004, 09:42 AM	#42
Shaver Legend OVR: 27 Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Michigan Posts: 10,148	Re: EA comments on the $20.00 price tag VC is rolling the dice. It's really a black and white issue. It either works (they move 600,000+ units) or they bust and fold. Game developing in always a gamble. VC is "All In".

07-01-2004, 09:55 AM	#43
frina Rookie OVR: 2 Join Date: Feb 2003	Re: EA comments on the $20.00 price tag Quote: *SoMiss2000 said:* who the heck cares? this price drop is so 1 month ago. ...and here I thought a forum was a place where you discuss issues....after reading that this is "so 1 month ago" I realize we are just the E! Channel of Sports Gaming...

07-01-2004, 09:56 AM	#44
Dark_Lord_Vader Banned OVR: 9 Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Georgia (Heart in Colorado)	Re: EA comments on the $20.00 price tag Quote: *Clay_OS said:* VC is rolling the dice. It's really a black and white issue. It either works (they move 600,000+ units) or they bust and fold. Game developing in always a gamble. VC is "All In". I agree Clay. Do you think the earlier poster is right in that VC could just go to another Publisher other than Sega if it does not work? My fear is that they bring the name with them, cursing the future of the Franchise.

07-01-2004, 09:59 AM	#45
Shaver Legend OVR: 27 Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Michigan Posts: 10,148	Re: EA comments on the $20.00 price tag Quote: *Dark_Lord_Vader said:* Quote: *Clay_OS said:* VC is rolling the dice. It's really a black and white issue. It either works (they move 600,000+ units) or they bust and fold. Game developing in always a gamble. VC is "All In". I agree Clay. Do you think the earlier poster is right in that VC could just go to another Publisher other than Sega if it does not work? My fear is that they bring the name with them, cursing the future of the Franchise. I heard (a rumor) that Sega/Take Two wants VC to concentrate on Non-Sports gaming. Maybe they are already planning that move? Maybe MS canceled Fever because they have an agreement to buy the 2K franchise and ESPN license next year? It will be interesting.

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07-01-2004, 10:00 AM	#46
frina Rookie OVR: 2 Join Date: Feb 2003	Re: EA comments on the $20.00 price tag Quote: *Clay_OS said:* VC is rolling the dice. It's really a black and white issue. It either works (they move 600,000+ units) or they bust and fold. Game developing in always a gamble. VC is "All In". I believe it is Take-Two who is probably behind the roll and they probably have the money to do it. The really interesting thing will be if it does work and then they face backlash when they raise the price (if they do) back to $49.99. One of the things I have always been taught as a salesman is that once you lower price you set expectations and it is hard to back to the higher price.

07-01-2004, 10:06 AM	#47
burnwood MVP OVR: 14 Join Date: May 2003 Location: MD Posts: 2,271	Re: EA comments on the $20.00 price tag Quote: *frina said:* Quote: *Clay_OS said:* VC is rolling the dice. It's really a black and white issue. It either works (they move 600,000+ units) or they bust and fold. Game developing in always a gamble. VC is "All In". I believe it is Take-Two who is probably behind the roll and they probably have the money to do it. The really interesting thing will be if it does work and then they face backlash when they raise the price (if they do) back to $49.99. One of the things I have always been taught as a salesman is that once you lower price you set expectations and it is hard to back to the higher price. Meh, but that's for salesmen. Nobody sells video games like products salemen sell. People generally decide for themselves.

07-01-2004, 10:09 AM	#48
Graphik Prsnr#70460649 OVR: 22* Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Chi-Town, Ill-State Posts: 10,580	Re: EA comments on the $20.00 price tag Quote: *frina said:* Quote: *Clay_OS said:* VC is rolling the dice. It's really a black and white issue. It either works (they move 600,000+ units) or they bust and fold. Game developing in always a gamble. VC is "All In". I believe it is Take-Two who is probably behind the roll and they probably have the money to do it. The really interesting thing will be if it does work and then they face backlash when they raise the price (if they do) back to $49.99. One of the things I have always been taught as a salesman is that once you lower price you set expectations and it is hard to back to the higher price. If all goes well this year for Sega, it'll be EA lowering the price next year with a whole new name change to get its fans back. I rubbed my crystal ball this morning and it said that ESPN 2K5 will exceed expectations. I mean we all know about the game, its not like its a first year title. The game has been out for years now.Even casual fans know about the 2K series. Anybody who has the slightest interest in buying another football game will automatically pick up ESPN for the lower price. Not to say they wont still try Madden but common sense tells us that alot of ppl are fed up with the game and EA as a whole. I talked to my "casual gaming friends" the other day and they all are getting somewhat tired of EA. If thats any example of whats really on a casual gamers mind when it comes to EA, then I dont know what is. Sega will eventually steal tons of EA fans this year and next year sell the game at 39.99 and EA will more than likely also lower to 39.99. The crystal ball does'nt lie.

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