MLB 15 The Show: What needs to change in order for you to purchase

[fistofrage]

Re: MLB 15 The Show: What needs to change in order for you to purchase

They definitely need to have more commentary. Some of the commentary is really good like mentioning what the player did in the game yesterday, but a lot of it is repetitive and stale.

Base stealing needs to be improved. Doesn't really seem to be any advantage to taken an extra lead.

More variety of hits. Balls slicing away, Bloops, and more shots down the line.

Stat tracking. I want to be able to see the player stats year by year for whole career just like a baseball card.

Fielding. I have only made a couple diving plays in about 100 games. I also see the AI trigger animations in the field that I have never triggered like the sliding infielder.

Overall, I think the game is great. But I thought MLB 2009 was great too at the time. So good that after I got my sliders set, I didn't want to go through the slider testing again, so 2014 was the first game I bought since then.

They would really have to step up a lot of things and it get near perfect reviews for me to buy it next year. It took me 3 months to nail my sliders down.

[Mrt078]

Re: MLB 15 The Show: What needs to change in order for you to purchase

No more cyberface mugshot when a player gets traded to another team please!

[burjeffton]

Re: MLB 15 The Show: What needs to change in order for you to purchase

I'll buy. The transferred saves is a great reason to upgrade each year.

Things that would get me really excited:

-Stadium Creator
-True "Spring Training" experience in RTTS (growth, mini games, etc)
-RTTS overhaul (a move closer to MyPlayer)
-New menu text (I know, it's dumb. I'm a typeface nerd and I've had enough Conduit ITC to last a lifetime)
-New highlight editing suite (using broadcast camera feeds to cut together highlights)

Last, but not least: COMMENTATING. I'm not yelling...

...ok, I am.

[Knight165]

Re: MLB 15 The Show: What needs to change in order for you to purchase

I have the same impression. The people who joystick the game represent the majority of the customers and their complaints are acted on even if it negatively impacts Manage mode.

MoM has take a step backward this year.

Manage Mode wasn't changed this year. No programming changes.

For the first time ever I'm thinking about NOT buying this game next year. The reasons: Lack of attention to Manage Only Mode and failure to improve statistical tracking. No attention has been paid to these for several years. There are other problems but these are the ones that concern me the most. It seems like a new programming crew is in place at SCEA that are just resting on the laurels of the creators of earlier versions. Maybe not so, but that's how it seems. I understand they believe there is no money to be made with this game unless they cater to the thumb pushers.

Same developers. No new programming crew.

M.K.
Knight165

[KBLover]

Re: MLB 15 The Show: What needs to change in order for you to purchase

I don't care for the changes to gameplay, specifically the changes to plate discipline. I get tired to watching MLB players with a poor idea of what the strike zone is swinging at pitches they couldn't hit with a 10 foot pole.

It's called getting fooled at the plate.

It happens to MLB hitters, especially when behind in the count.

http://www.fangraphs.com/zonegridbas...id=10&view=bat

I'd rather the way it is now than everyone having Barry Bonds plate discipline, discerning to the millimeter if a pitch is a strike or not.

[tessl]

Re: MLB 15 The Show: What needs to change in order for you to purchase

It's called getting fooled at the plate.

It happens to MLB hitters, especially when behind in the count.

http://www.fangraphs.com/zonegridbas...id=10&view=bat

I'd rather the way it is now than everyone having Barry Bonds plate discipline, discerning to the millimeter if a pitch is a strike or not.

I fully understand people were calling for more chased pitches, thus the massive changes but proof they got it wrong is the number of outs per game vs number of hits per game on chased pitches.

The most frequent animation in manage mode is swinging strike three on a pitch in the dirt with catcher stepping out in front of the plate to throw the batter out at first. In MLB that happens far less frequently than in this year's version.

I'm sure they won't miss my money but I'll rent the game first to see if it is less arcade and more realistic. Maybe they could make an option to turn "chased pitch mode" on or off like they did with "quick counts mode" for the small minority who prefer realism.

[tessl]

Re: MLB 15 The Show: What needs to change in order for you to purchase

Manage Mode wasn't changed this year. No programming changes.






M.K.
Knight165

LOL


Gameplay has changed? It was in one of the bullet points prior to release and Brian posted on this forum about it in response to a question from me.

I'll give them a chance to fix it by renting the game next year.

[Knight165]

Re: MLB 15 The Show: What needs to change in order for you to purchase

LOL


Gameplay has changed? It was in one of the bullet points prior to release and Brian posted on this forum about it in response to a question from me.

I'll give them a chance to fix it by renting the game next year.

Your statement was that Manage Mode took a step backward.
I'm speaking of MANAGE MODE SPECIFIC changes.....there are none.
If you want to argue...at LEAST use the correct term so others know WTF you are talking about half the time.
You are the king of mix and match discussion.
.....and I'd say the majority of people would say that gameplay(including chase pitches...and front end items like progression) have taken a good step forward.
Your entitled to your opinion...but it doesn't make it fact.

M.K.
Knight165

[Raider131]

Re: MLB 15 The Show: What needs to change in order for you to purchase

It's called getting fooled at the plate.

It happens to MLB hitters, especially when behind in the count.

http://www.fangraphs.com/zonegridbas...id=10&view=bat

I'd rather the way it is now than everyone having Barry Bonds plate discipline, discerning to the millimeter if a pitch is a strike or not.

This, the fact guys who don't have great discipline will swing at a terrible pitch every once in awhile is amazing, compared to getting a guy 0-2 and him refusing to swing at borderline strikes

[KBLover]

Re: MLB 15 The Show: What needs to change in order for you to purchase

The most frequent animation in manage mode is swinging strike three on a pitch in the dirt with catcher stepping out in front of the plate to throw the batter out at first. In MLB that happens far less frequently than in this year's version.

The most frequent chased location when in a 2 strike count in MLB is...down and significantly out of the zone.

http://www.fangraphs.com/zonegridbas...id=10&view=bat

41% of pitches that location are chased with 2 strikes. By far the largest chase zone on pitches significantly out of the strike zone.

If guys drop the third strike too much, that's a different thing than guys swinging at low pitches in/near the dirt too much. I would agree that dynamic plays out with the batter having perfect awareness/hustle and/or the catcher not able to get the mitt on it and throw a quick tag on the batter - that dynamic needs tweaking.

As far as hits: there are too many base hits on chased pitches, imo, and there's too much swing and misses on chased pitches, again imo. I think this is true for both me and the CPU (especially the CPU since on Timing, I have to rely on "getting lucky" on PCI location).

http://www.fangraphs.com/zonegridbas...id=10&view=bat

http://www.fangraphs.com/zonegridbas...id=10&view=bat

I think the contact % in particular is too low out of the zone for most areas. (I think there's too many swings and misses in general, but that might just be me being on Timing hitting).

As far as realism, the way it is out might be slightly too high/extreme, but the "old" way was too extreme in the other direction, meaning it wasn't realistic either.

Real hitters make mistakes in strike zone judgment, and the pitch doesn't have to always be all that close.

[tabarnes19_SDS]

Re: MLB 15 The Show: What needs to change in order for you to purchase

I fully understand people were calling for more chased pitches, thus the massive changes but proof they got it wrong is the number of outs per game vs number of hits per game on chased pitches.

The most frequent animation in manage mode is swinging strike three on a pitch in the dirt with catcher stepping out in front of the plate to throw the batter out at first. In MLB that happens far less frequently than in this year's version.

I'm sure they won't miss my money but I'll rent the game first to see if it is less arcade and more realistic. Maybe they could make an option to turn "chased pitch mode" on or off like they did with "quick counts mode" for the small minority who prefer realism.

While the throw to first does happen more than in a real major league game you have to realize it's because in a real major league game many of the current big leaguers give themselves up after a dropped third strike.

The game simulates the way the sport "should" be played with runners trying for first on a dropped third strike.

[Colocolo]

Re: MLB 15 The Show: What needs to change in order for you to purchase

Quick Count is amazing but needs to include some early counts as well.

[Bobhead]

Re: MLB 15 The Show: What needs to change in order for you to purchase

http://www.fangraphs.com/zonegridbas...id=10&view=bat

http://www.fangraphs.com/zonegridbas...id=10&view=bat

I think the contact % in particular is too low out of the zone for most areas. (I think there's too many swings and misses in general, but that might just be me being on Timing hitting).

As far as realism, the way it is out might be slightly too high/extreme, but the "old" way was too extreme in the other direction, meaning it wasn't realistic either.

Real hitters make mistakes in strike zone judgment, and the pitch doesn't have to always be all that close.

There's something wrong with that first link. Is that supposed to be batting averages in each zone? Because none of the BAs are above .200, which is statistically impossible.

Honestly I think the current discipline rates are perfect. Chase rates and all. What is not perfect is the pitcher's ability to repeatedly throw those low pitches and pitches just above the zone. I'd like to see more pitches completely fail and miss way out of the zone. More sinkers that run in the dirt instead of 2 cm below the zone. The lack of these mistakes creates an illusion of too many pitches being chased. In reality, it's too many pitches worth chasing. Every pitch is a perfect pitch.

While the throw to first does happen more than in a real major league game you have to realize it's because in a real major league game many of the current big leaguers give themselves up after a dropped third strike.

The game simulates the way the sport "should" be played with runners trying for first on a dropped third strike.

I think the one thing that can be done without sacrificing this "prestige", is to make the batter wait until he actually sees the ball loose somewhere before he runs. As it is now, the batter runs immediately, through the powers of extra-sensory perception. I know we will never get 100% laziness from the batters like we do in real life, but we can at least let them look around and find the ball before they break, thus giving the catcher more time, and curbing the # of throws to 1st base ever so slightly.

[tessl]

Re: MLB 15 The Show: What needs to change in order for you to purchase

Your statement was that Manage Mode took a step backward.
I'm speaking of MANAGE MODE SPECIFIC changes.....there are none.
If you want to argue...at LEAST use the correct term so others know WTF you are talking about half the time.
You are the king of mix and match discussion.
.....and I'd say the majority of people would say that gameplay(including chase pitches...and front end items like progression) have taken a good step forward.
Your entitled to your opinion...but it doesn't make it fact.

M.K.
Knight165

The statement was not intended to start an argument. I was agreeing with a fellow manage mode user with username armymule.

Changes have been made to cpu gameplay which I don't care for. Since both teams in manage mode are cpu this impacts manage mode. You are probably correct most people love the changes and that being the case it probably will not be changed. Most people joystick the game and want the cpu hitters to be dumbed down.

The topic of the thread is "What needs to change in order for you to purchase the game next year" my answer is more realistic gameplay. Regarding progression, I don't care for what they have done but it isn't a game breaker. It is my opinion progression should be programmed to match the rosters which come with the game and the devs should resist pressure to change progression to placate people who create third party rosters. People creating their own rosters should design them to match the generic rosters so that progression matches their rosters but progression would not prevent me from purchasing the game next year.

As with everybody who has posted in this thread including yourself, I am of course stating my opinion which is exactly what the op asked for.

Thanks for the reply.

[tessl]

Re: MLB 15 The Show: What needs to change in order for you to purchase

While the throw to first does happen more than in a real major league game you have to realize it's because in a real major league game many of the current big leaguers give themselves up after a dropped third strike.

The game simulates the way the sport "should" be played with runners trying for first on a dropped third strike.

In my opinion, my opinion only...

The problem isn't dropped third strikes, it is striking out on a pitch in the dirt which the catcher blocks but that is only an indication of a larger problem. Before I got frustrated and cut back on the time I spending playing the game I took the time to play 100 games in manage mode - full counts - each game taking about an hour to play. After each game I went to pitch analysis game and recorded the data.

• 32 chased pitches per game.

• 14 outs per game on chased pitches.

• 1 hit per game on chased pitches.

The problem in my opinion is deeper than simply chased pitches but the number of outs vs number of hits on chased pitches.

When you add 14 outs per game and don't offset it with some added offense from somewhere else the result is a league full of dumbed down cpu hitters. Following the patch it seemed to improve slightly but I have better things to do than run another 100 hours of testing which would undoubtedly be met with angst from others on this forum.

As to the topic of the thread, for those who joystick the game that is probably exactly what they wanted. For me, my opinion only, as an exclusive manage mode user that is enough to make me not want to buy the game next year until and unless I know it has been changed.

Just my opinion, not trying to make anybody upset.