Stadium Atmosphere

[My993C2]

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Unless I am mistaken there are seven dome stadiums in MLB. Toronto, Tampa Bay, Houston, Seattle, Miami, Milwaukee and Arizona (and Tampa's roof is always closed?). So what we have is six new stadiums that need to be added into the game where the roofs close and the lighting would be different from when the roofs are open. I could be wrong, but I am willing to bet that we will see these new closed domed stadiums in the 2016 iteration of this game. There just was not enough time to include it in 2015 because of all the other changes SCEA made to the game. Patience people. I am sure your closed domed stadiums will be coming to the game in the not too distant future.

[countryboy]

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I personally would rather see them continue to add minor league stadiums before working on closed roof stadiums. I would like for the number of minor league stadiums to reach 30 so that each club can have a minor league stadium for the minor league affiliates.

[Factzzz]

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I really think the dome roof issue should be adressed. Like i get it, being able to close the roof during the game or so would need too much developing, lighting and everything.
But then at least give us the option to choose before the game whether the roof is closed or not.
I'm a Blue Jays fan and fact is in real life they hardly have the dome opened during the first month of the season.
Now i may prefer the dome being open when i attend a game but it would still be cool to get to choose whether the dome is open or not!
I can't recall which game had it but i'm pretty sure i played a sports game before where you could choose between roof open and roof closed. Anybody know which one im talking about?

Every other sports game that's had to deal with teams with a retractable roof.

Mainly MLB 2k and Madden.

MLB 2k had it since like 2k6, i just dont understand how we're going into the second iteration on ps4 and it's still not in the game. It has to be in the game next year.

[redsox4evur]

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Every other sports game that's had to deal with teams with a retractable roof.

Mainly MLB 2k and Madden.

MLB 2k had it since like 2k6, i just dont understand how we're going into the second iteration on ps4 and it's still not in the game. It has to be in the game next year.

I don't know actual development team sizes or anything. But maybe that is the case. EA and Take 2 are big companies and they are development teams are probably bigger than those that work on MLB the Show.

[Factzzz]

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I don't know actual development team sizes or anything. But maybe that is the case. EA and Take 2 are big companies and they are development teams are probably bigger than those that work on MLB the Show.

I don't think development team size is the reason. I feel like that's an excuse a lot of people on here use for anything that's not in the game.

Development team size didn't stop them from being the first game ever to have carry over saves. It didn't stop them from having the best gameplay of any sports game. It didn't stop them from "re-doing" all 30 stadiums last year, and adding 10 minor league stadiums this year (but they can't do 6 dome stadiums). The size of the development team hasn't stopped them from putting out arguably the best sports game in the market. Arguably.

I think it has more to do with them just not caring enough to get it in the game. And by that, i mean they don't prioritize as much as some other things. Which is sad, because they should. Either that, or they're just really trying to nail it, and have the roof animate mid-game when it closes, which would have the process of adding them take longer than need be. Or they're coupling retractable roofs with some weather elements like rain delays etc. I doubt it though.

Ultimately, i just think they don't prioritize it enough, and the dev team size is just an excuse.

[Scarface-93]

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Either that, or they're just really trying to nail it, and have the roof animate mid-game when it closes, which would have the process of adding them take longer than need be. Or they're coupling retractable roofs with some weather elements like rain delays etc. I doubt it though.

I really hope that as that would be even better.

But seriously, all we're asking for is to have at least the option to choose.
I do realize that with only 6 Teams and therefore only 6 fanbases effected, this might be a smaller concern for most fans and gamers, especially since Miami, Houston and Arizona have their roof closed about 90% of all games but still.
Like i'm not even expecting to have closing or opening animation which is in real time and stuff like that. Not even expecting that the ball physics change with the roof closed.

Id already be fine with the option to choose between open and closed roof before the game, thats all. I dont think thats a lot to ask if you compare it with some other user wishes which go far more into detail

[thaSLAB]

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I don't think development team size is the reason. I feel like that's an excuse a lot of people on here use for anything that's not in the game.

Development team size didn't stop them from being the first game ever to have carry over saves. It didn't stop them from having the best gameplay of any sports game. It didn't stop them from "re-doing" all 30 stadiums last year, and adding 10 minor league stadiums this year (but they can't do 6 dome stadiums). The size of the development team hasn't stopped them from putting out arguably the best sports game in the market. Arguably.

I think it has more to do with them just not caring enough to get it in the game. And by that, i mean they don't prioritize as much as some other things. Which is sad, because they should. Either that, or they're just really trying to nail it, and have the roof animate mid-game when it closes, which would have the process of adding them take longer than need be. Or they're coupling retractable roofs with some weather elements like rain delays etc. I doubt it though.

Ultimately, i just think they don't prioritize it enough, and the dev team size is just an excuse.

And Y2Y saves was a very very big programming resource eater too. Probably more than any other single feature. I don't think the community understands just how much of a task it was... especially for a studio the size of SDS. Yet they cared enough to get it in for their community.

Also, as far as studio size goes, Shawn mentioned, on the stadium stream, how many stadium designers they have (6) and how long it takes to do one stadium. If you do the math, it's pretty close to 10 a year... on top of maintaining and updating the other 40+ stadiums in the game. So 10 "new" stadiums > than 6 domed versions of existing stadiums + 4 "new" stadiums. And even with the 10 new stadiums this year, the PS4 still hasn't caught the PS3 in number of stadium offerings. It takes time, resources and a very good prioritized plan; which they have, and will come in due time.

You forgot that they also support cross-platform saves across 3 consoles... and support/maintain those 3 versions on a yearly basis, but most here like to focus on what's not there, rather than the groundbreaking things that are. I truly think that's the mentality sometimes "let's watch this footage, and see what we can find wrong, or is this one thing I really wanted still not in", regardless if it's in the best immediate plan forward.

So yeah, not caring has nothing to do with it. Size of the team does, a little. And development cycle is probably the biggest obstacle. If they didn't care, they wouldn't have CD events, or stream dozens of hours of pre-release footage, or even have the presence they do on these very forums. That said, I guess they are over achieving then, since the smallest studio has the biggest presence... then again, not achieving enough for some people.

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[Jimmydm90]

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And even with the 10 new stadiums this year, the PS4 still hasn't caught the PS3 in number of stadium offerings.

How many stadiums does the PS3 have?

[LastActionHero]

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I truly think that's the mentality sometimes "let's watch this footage, and see what we can find wrong...

This reminds me of a friend of mine who is a real audiophile and once said he doesn't necessarily have $1000 plus speakers to here the music better but to find that 1 mistake the band or production has made on an album.

Interesting similarity here

[JHedges2]

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Not everyone cares about roofs closing in the game. I would rather have them open. I don't think baseball or football should ever be played in a dome. They are outdoor sports, that's where they started and that's where they should be played, outdoors.

Also all baseball and football fields should be grass. No fake stuff of any kind. Although the stuff they have now is better then it used to be, but it should still all be real grass.

THIS THIS THIS!!!!

I play as the Yankees and DREAD playing games at 'The Trop'. I would say that I hate the Rogers Centre too--but man they did SUCH a good job of it in '14.

[Go Yankees]

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So many excuses for things wrong with the game, there were baseball games with the option to have open or closed stadiums since ps2 era, there has been blowing jersey's in the wind since the original xbox, there has been rainouts in some baseball videogames since 2004 at least, there has been games that have players colide in the outfield, that was on regular nintendo i believe, everyone needs to wakeup to the fact that there are problems and issues with this game, and making excuses for the dev team will not help them move forward, it stalls them out and we are stuck with what they give us, if you want an example of what a baseball game should be like when switching concole gens, remember what madden looked like on ps3 and then a game came out called backbreaker, although it didnt have the best controles it was the "next gen jump" blew madden out of the water graphically, better body physics, all that, what is next gen about mlb 15 the show on ps4 compared to the ps3 version? I think all of this can be fixed with a one time two or three year cycle, where is the next gen engine they are using for this game? Maybe they can hire a secondary team to work on a new engine, just my opinion, i doubt this post will help but maybe wake some people up to somethings they might not have been known about older baseball games, thanks for reading my post.

[Factzzz]

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And Y2Y saves was a very very big programming resource eater too. Probably more than any other single feature. I don't think the community understands just how much of a task it was... especially for a studio the size of SDS. Yet they cared enough to get it in for their community.

Also, as far as studio size goes, Shawn mentioned, on the stadium stream, how many stadium designers they have (6) and how long it takes to do one stadium. If you do the math, it's pretty close to 10 a year... on top of maintaining and updating the other 40+ stadiums in the game. So 10 "new" stadiums > than 6 domed versions of existing stadiums + 4 "new" stadiums. And even with the 10 new stadiums this year, the PS4 still hasn't caught the PS3 in number of stadium offerings. It takes time, resources and a very good prioritized plan; which they have, and will come in due time.

You forgot that they also support cross-platform saves across 3 consoles... and support/maintain those 3 versions on a yearly basis, but most here like to focus on what's not there, rather than the groundbreaking things that are. I truly think that's the mentality sometimes "let's watch this footage, and see what we can find wrong, or is this one thing I really wanted still not in", regardless if it's in the best immediate plan forward.

So yeah, not caring has nothing to do with it. Size of the team does, a little. And development cycle is probably the biggest obstacle. If they didn't care, they wouldn't have CD events, or stream dozens of hours of pre-release footage, or even have the presence they do on these very forums. That said, I guess they are over achieving then, since the smallest studio has the biggest presence... then again, not achieving enough for some people.

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You basically just co-signed what i said. That being, they prioritize other things over retractable roofs.

My post acknowledged many of their well doings, as citing reasons why this dev team size excuse isn't a good one. I did forget cross-platform saves, further proving my point.

And you don't have to tell me that SCEA cares, that's more than evident, but if they "care" enough to get retractable roofs in the game is up for debate. Seems like they "care" about other things more.

As i said, it lies within their priorities, and retractable roofs have been too low on their priorities.

That being said, i assume they have different departments working on different parts of the game obviously. So i guess all the things SCEA has accomplished doesn't really have anything to do with the implementation of retractable roofs.

So i guess, it needs to be a higher priority for whoever works on graphics and stadiums.

[geisterhome]

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I hope for 2016 the closed roof versions make it to the top of thier priority list. I really don't need to see a roof closing mid game but to have 2 options to chose from before the game would be amazing.
And I'd rather have that than 10 more Minor League Stadiums, the game isn't called Minor Leauge Baseball afterall.

http://www.komonews.com/weather/blogs/scott/Safeco-Fields-roof-least-used-among-retractable-roof-stadiums-162997536.html

[eremiomania]

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I keep thinking about all the upgrades being completed to Progressive Field currently and how now it'll be out of date in the game for probably 5 years. Like how when they added Heritage Park and the CF bar it took years to get those in the game.

[thaSLAB]

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I hope for 2016 the closed roof versions make it to the top of thier priority list. I really don't need to see a roof closing mid game but to have 2 options to chose from before the game would be amazing.
And I'd rather have that than 10 more Minor League Stadiums, the game isn't called Minor Leauge Baseball afterall.

http://www.komonews.com/weather/blog...162997536.html

True, but there is this mode (that's kind of big), that's about coming up thru the minor leagues... where you play for 1 of 60 teams, in a stadium. Each of the 30 MLB teams has a stadium. Not so much for those 60 MiLB teams.

You may say, you don't play RTTS, but there are a lot of people who do. And they most likely welcome new minor league stadiums.

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