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  • Ebpmd
    MVP
    • Dec 2013
    • 1191

    #541
    Re: MLB 15 The Show Patch 1.02 Available Now, Details Included (PS3, PS4)

    Regarding the fast forward issue. If you go to select team and choose no team then go to fast forward screen you will get an appropriate substitution/pinch hitting pattern.

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    • Heroesandvillains
      MVP
      • May 2009
      • 5974

      #542
      Re: MLB 15 The Show Patch 1.02 Available Now, Details Included (PS3, PS4)

      Originally posted by Russell_SCEA
      We won't be altering the trade logic in any future patches.
      Ramone, it's not like we find the current state of trading a little less than ideal and are asking for a fix.

      The last patch completely obliterated the trading logic. It is literally broken.

      I don't see how anyone that cared about Franchise mode could play this game now.

      Everything was working fine with the day one patch. I beg you, if a fix can't be found, to please consider putting the logic back to where it was before 1.02.

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      • tabarnes19_SDS
        Game Designer
        • Feb 2003
        • 3084

        #543
        Re: MLB 15 The Show Patch 1.02 Available Now, Details Included (PS3, PS4)

        Originally posted by Russell_SCEA
        We won't be altering the trade logic in any future patches.
        Any chance that at least the frequency can be adjusted? It is too low right now especially for the default option of trade delay.

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        • bcruise
          Hall Of Fame
          • Mar 2004
          • 23274

          #544
          Re: MLB 15 The Show Patch 1.02 Available Now, Details Included (PS3, PS4)

          Regarding the trade thing:

          I respect you guys that run all the sims and check these things. But I'm not seeing the same thing. I'm running sims with the default rosters and I'm seeing 20+ trades in the entire MLB through June. I'm also seeing the transaction log cut off because there's so many of them - in this last sim I ran I saw 5 trades in April but by the end of June the last one I can see is from 4/20. Hypothetically speaking if you guys are checking trades at the end of a season is it possible that some of them are getting pushed off the transaction page because of the length of time that's passed?

          Here's the log - again, there were about five trades in April and only a couple are showing up here.

          <iframe width="420" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/QAm02IpEDDU?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

          And this is with trade delay on. 30 team control is off.

          If it's not that, maybe this is some kind of problem between the custom rosters and the franchise engine. I don't know - but I don't see the issue on the defaults, and I think that's what Ramone is getting at when they say they aren't going to change the logic again.

          I'm going to try with SCEA's current roster and see what happens - that's more relevant to me since it includes Bryant and Russell.
          Last edited by bcruise; 05-07-2015, 03:54 PM.

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          • Russell_SCEA
            SCEA Community Manager
            • May 2005
            • 4161

            #545
            Re: MLB 15 The Show Patch 1.02 Available Now, Details Included (PS3, PS4)

            Originally posted by tabarnes19
            Any chance that at least the frequency can be adjusted? It is too low right now especially for the default option of trade delay.

            We won't be altering the trade logic in any future patches.

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            • bcruise
              Hall Of Fame
              • Mar 2004
              • 23274

              #546
              Re: MLB 15 The Show Patch 1.02 Available Now, Details Included (PS3, PS4)

              Here's some more...this is a thing, guys. Again, single team control and trade delay is on. Check out deadline day toward the end.

              <iframe width="420" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/7g1oLJ1wMh4?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

              Edit: Whoops, video will take some time to upload. This one's a bit longer.
              Last edited by bcruise; 05-07-2015, 04:13 PM.

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              • tabarnes19_SDS
                Game Designer
                • Feb 2003
                • 3084

                #547
                Re: MLB 15 The Show Patch 1.02 Available Now, Details Included (PS3, PS4)

                Originally posted by bcruise
                Here's some more...this is a thing, guys. Again, single team control and trade delay is on. Check out deadline day toward the end.



                <iframe width="420" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/7g1oLJ1wMh4?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

                I don't remember the last time I tested with single team control. I wonder if that is the issue?


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                • Heroesandvillains
                  MVP
                  • May 2009
                  • 5974

                  #548
                  Re: MLB 15 The Show Patch 1.02 Available Now, Details Included (PS3, PS4)

                  Originally posted by bcruise
                  Here's some more...this is a thing, guys. Again, single team control and trade delay is on. Check out deadline day toward the end.

                  <iframe width="420" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/7g1oLJ1wMh4?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

                  Edit: Whoops, video will take some time to upload. This one's a bit longer.
                  I can't load the video. Care to spoil it for me?

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                  • bcruise
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 23274

                    #549
                    Re: MLB 15 The Show Patch 1.02 Available Now, Details Included (PS3, PS4)

                    Originally posted by Heroesandvillains
                    I can't load the video. Care to spoil it for me?
                    Yeah, blame my slow upload. It'll be up soon, I promise.

                    3 trades on 7/31, 9 total in the month of July. I recorded all the sims and checked transactions after each month as it does seem to cut the transactions off by date.

                    Tabarnes: Wouldn't surprise me if that's the case - I know a lot of you guys who test these things are 30 team control types. But that would mean the logic (or at least the frequency) isn't really broken - some kind of setting involving CPU control on 30-team is.
                    Last edited by bcruise; 05-07-2015, 04:37 PM.

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                    • tabarnes19_SDS
                      Game Designer
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 3084

                      #550
                      Re: MLB 15 The Show Patch 1.02 Available Now, Details Included (PS3, PS4)

                      Originally posted by bcruise
                      Here's some more...this is a thing, guys. Again, single team control and trade delay is on. Check out deadline day toward the end.

                      <iframe src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/7g1oLJ1wMh4?rel=0" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" width="420"></iframe>

                      Edit: Whoops, video will take some time to upload. This one's a bit longer.
                      What roster were you using? I counted;
                      April-2
                      May-6
                      June-6
                      July-9
                      23 trades Thats about the average I got pre patch.

                      I just ran a few tests single team control
                      Millenium's OSFM Trade Delay
                      A-3
                      M-1
                      J-3
                      J-5
                      total 12

                      Live roster
                      a-7
                      m-3
                      j-3
                      j-8
                      A-1
                      trades 22

                      Single team instant trades
                      Mill osfm
                      a-2
                      m-5
                      j-3
                      j-5
                      a-1
                      total 16

                      Live
                      a-1
                      m-3
                      j-4
                      J-6
                      Total 14

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                      • bcruise
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 23274

                        #551
                        Re: MLB 15 The Show Patch 1.02 Available Now, Details Included (PS3, PS4)

                        Originally posted by tabarnes19
                        What roster were you using?
                        The latest SCEA official roster.

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                        • PhilliesFan13
                          Banned
                          • May 2009
                          • 15651

                          #552
                          Re: MLB 15 The Show Patch 1.02 Available Now, Details Included (PS3, PS4)

                          I just did a test sim with my current franchise to check trades. From April to the trade deadline there were only 4 trades made. 4! All of them in July too. Not one trade was proposed to me either. This is franchise breaking to me. I am already 17 games into mine and I really don't want to start over, but this has me considering it.

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                          • Heroesandvillains
                            MVP
                            • May 2009
                            • 5974

                            #553
                            Re: MLB 15 The Show Patch 1.02 Available Now, Details Included (PS3, PS4)

                            Originally posted by PhilliesFan13
                            I just did a test sim with my current franchise to check trades. From April to the trade deadline there were only 4 trades made. 4! All of them in July too. Not one trade was proposed to me either. This is franchise breaking to me. I am already 17 games into mine and I really don't want to start over, but this has me considering it.
                            Don't start over just yet.

                            Tbarnes seems to be testing whether or not this is actually an issue with how the game is treating 30-team/Single-team trading.

                            If what Bcruise posted is consistent, and the issue is that 30-team only is broken, then maybe...just MAYBE...SCEA can isolate the cause and fix it.

                            Let's see if that's what's going on here first.

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                            • PhilliesFan13
                              Banned
                              • May 2009
                              • 15651

                              #554
                              Re: MLB 15 The Show Patch 1.02 Available Now, Details Included (PS3, PS4)

                              Originally posted by Heroesandvillains
                              Don't start over just yet.

                              Tbarnes seems to be testing whether or not this is actually an issue with how the game is treating 30-team/Single-team trading.

                              If what Bcruise posted is consistent, and the issue is that 30-team only is broken, then maybe...just MAYBE...SCEA can isolate the cause and fix it.

                              Let's see if that's what's going on here first.
                              Ok, thanks for the tip.

                              I am doing 30-team control but am only using the Phillies. I have the 29 other teams set to a CPU profile I made. I even tried switching that profile to see if it does anything. It was still the same. Only 4 trades and all in July.

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                              • bcruise
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Mar 2004
                                • 23274

                                #555
                                Re: MLB 15 The Show Patch 1.02 Available Now, Details Included (PS3, PS4)

                                Originally posted by Heroesandvillains
                                Don't start over just yet.

                                Tbarnes seems to be testing whether or not this is actually an issue with how the game is treating 30-team/Single-team trading.

                                If what Bcruise posted is consistent, and the issue is that 30-team only is broken, then maybe...just MAYBE...SCEA can isolate the cause and fix it.

                                Let's see if that's what's going on here first.
                                Yeah, those are my thoughts exactly - a fix to something involving 30-team doesn't need to include a trade logic change. I'm interested to see the results he gets now that this is out there - I'm pretty certain no one has been able to claim 23 trades in a season post-patch until now. At least that first sim he did with the live roster (22 trades) tells me this wasn't some isolated occurence with my game.

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