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  • bigd51
    Aqua?!
    • Sep 2014
    • 624

    #1

    How do you determine call ups/send downs?

    Just wondering how everyone handles their call ups and send downs pre-, post-, and during the season.

    Mostly want to find out when is the best time for me to call up players to the main roster and when it's best to keep them in the minors.

    Do you go by overall alone?

    Do you go by a certain stat(s) like WAR?

    Do you go by an attribute(s) like Fielding or Contact?

    Or do you go about it another way?
  • lisinas
    MVP
    • Jan 2010
    • 1218

    #2
    Re: How do you determine call ups/send downs?

    Combination of their ratings and performance in minors during the current season. I also usually call up only those players that i need to use cause my major player at X position is struggling (for example my short stop is struggling in the majors so i will look how the shortstops in the minors are doing)
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    • countryboy
      Growing pains
      • Sep 2003
      • 52728

      #3
      Re: How do you determine call ups/send downs?

      For me personally its all about performance. If a guy is struggling in the majors and there is someone who can take his place in the minors then I have no issue with making the move. This season I've sent both Matt Adams and Brandon Moss down to the minors because they were struggling. Moss has seem to respond, whereas Adams continues to struggle with ups and downs.

      The only rule I have is that, despite injury of course, I do not make any moves in the month of April. I give players the month to work on things, and in many cases longer. I don't let a bad game or bad week influence my decision. Slumps happen, but if the guy can't seemingly get out of the slump then I'll move them down to the minors to try and "find their groove"

      I don't pay attention to overall whatsoever. If a guy is rated 40 and he's hitting over .300 in AAA ball and I feel that he can help the major league club, then by all means I'm calling him up to replace a struggling player.
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      • kac
        Pro
        • Feb 2003
        • 530

        #4
        Re: How do you determine call ups/send downs?

        Originally posted by countryboy
        For me personally its all about performance. If a guy is struggling in the majors and there is someone who can take his place in the minors then I have no issue with making the move. This season I've sent both Matt Adams and Brandon Moss down to the minors because they were struggling. Moss has seem to respond, whereas Adams continues to struggle with ups and downs.

        The only rule I have is that, despite injury of course, I do not make any moves in the month of April. I give players the month to work on things, and in many cases longer. I don't let a bad game or bad week influence my decision. Slumps happen, but if the guy can't seemingly get out of the slump then I'll move them down to the minors to try and "find their groove"

        I don't pay attention to overall whatsoever. If a guy is rated 40 and he's hitting over .300 in AAA ball and I feel that he can help the major league club, then by all means I'm calling him up to replace a struggling player.
        Does age play a role if you bring someone up I have a19 year old first baseman in the minors who is rated 78 with A pot he is tearing the cover off the ball in AAA.Im the Indians in my franchise in the last week of June and Mike Napoli has been in a season long slump but I havnt called up the rookie because of his age.

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        • countryboy
          Growing pains
          • Sep 2003
          • 52728

          #5
          Re: How do you determine call ups/send downs?

          Originally posted by kac
          Does age play a role if you bring someone up I have a19 year old first baseman in the minors who is rated 78 with A pot he is tearing the cover off the ball in AAA.Im the Indians in my franchise in the last week of June and Mike Napoli has been in a season long slump but I havnt called up the rookie because of his age.

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          Not for me it doesn't. I have a 19 year Centerfielder that I called up for 2 weeks to spell an injury. Only reason I didn't keep him was due to him struggling at the major league level. I placed him back at AAA and he's the leading vote getting for the All-Star game at that level.

          He will be my CF next year.
          I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

          I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


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          • bigd51
            Aqua?!
            • Sep 2014
            • 624

            #6
            Re: How do you determine call ups/send downs?

            Originally posted by lisinas
            Combination of their ratings and performance in minors during the current season. I also usually call up only those players that i need to use cause my major player at X position is struggling (for example my short stop is struggling in the majors so i will look how the shortstops in the minors are doing)
            Originally posted by countryboy
            Not for me it doesn't. I have a 19 year Centerfielder that I called up for 2 weeks to spell an injury. Only reason I didn't keep him was due to him struggling at the major league level. I placed him back at AAA and he's the leading vote getting for the All-Star game at that level.

            He will be my CF next year.
            How long do you guys generally wait before you consider a player to be struggling and decide to make a change?

            And yeah, I don't think age matters at all. I just signed an 18 yo RF with B potential and overall of mid 70's (who somehow went undrafted straight into the FA pool) and 2 months into the season, he's killing it with a .320+ BA, 10 HR in 100 AB's.

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            • countryboy
              Growing pains
              • Sep 2003
              • 52728

              #7
              Re: How do you determine call ups/send downs?

              Originally posted by bigd51
              How long do you guys generally wait before you consider a player to be struggling and decide to make a change?
              I typically give the player a month to work out of his slump.
              I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

              I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


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              • Hayman19
                Rookie
                • Apr 2009
                • 258

                #8
                Re: How do you determine call ups/send downs?

                For me I have a 80/20 split favoring stats over ratings. I know if a 60 OVR player gets called up the The Show he will most likely struggle. Also, I try and be a bit more patient with my high potential guys as well, trying not to rush them if they are too young as to not ruin their potential.

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                • RogueHominid
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 10900

                  #9
                  Re: How do you determine call ups/send downs?

                  I pay attention to who is hot in addition to considering POT, OVR, and performance.

                  If I have a need at the MLB level due to injury, I will give preference to players who are on a hot streak at a lower level.

                  I also give my 25 man roster players a pretty long leash. I won't even consider poor performance a serious problem until the middle or end of May. I don't overreact to a poor 100-at-bat opening stretch, but I'll start to consider options at 150 at-bats.

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                  • kac
                    Pro
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 530

                    #10
                    Re: How do you determine call ups/send downs?

                    Originally posted by countryboy
                    Not for me it doesn't. I have a 19 year Centerfielder that I called up for 2 weeks to spell an injury. Only reason I didn't keep him was due to him struggling at the major league level. I placed him back at AAA and he's the leading vote getting for the All-Star game at that level.

                    He will be my CF next year.
                    Thanks I think im going to call him up I just didn't want to ruin his development.

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                    • sccavs64
                      Pro
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 587

                      #11
                      Re: How do you determine call ups/send downs?

                      Originally posted by kac
                      Thanks I think im going to call him up I just didn't want to ruin his development.

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                      Normally their Potential isn't effected, and if it is, it's only by a point or two.

                      I've generally found though that the earlier they join the MLB club the faster they progress.

                      I simmed a couple of test seasons with the Phillies and tested this on JP Crawford (their top prospect). When I left him down in AAA during the entire 2017 season, he finished the season with an 81 OVR both times. When I moved him up to the MLB in early July around the all-star break, his overall would consistently be an 85 or an 86.

                      I'm playing the entire 2019 season right now and he's still currently an 85 OVR but he struggled last year (batted .250 and change), so he didn't really progress last year at all.

                      It could be that moving them to the MLB helps in the short-term and hurts in the long-term, but I would just test it a few times to make sure. Most of the progression I feel is based on performance so each scenario is probably case by case anyway.

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