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  • solofx7
    Pro
    • Jul 2004
    • 870

    #781
    Re: MLB The Show 17 Supports 4K & HDR on PS4 Pro

    Originally posted by jaredowner
    I am having the exact same issue. It is driving me nuts. I have to have dynamic contrast on high for it to look good. I have also noticed when looking at the MLB Network score tracker box when HDR is on, it loses all of it's pop along with the picture mostly only when batting. When I turn Dynamic Contrast on to high it looks great but the sky is too bright. So frustrating. I have tried most tips and tricks in the last 15 pages of this forum too and just about every setting. Please let me know if you find a fix.
    I can surely help. What TV are you using?

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    • solofx7
      Pro
      • Jul 2004
      • 870

      #782
      Re: MLB The Show 17 Supports 4K & HDR on PS4 Pro

      Originally posted by Christian9
      I'd recommend turning Dynamic Contrast off. Try it, and let me know what you think.

      Actually I typically remove most "artificial" processing. Theoretically should reduce lag time too. But likely not noticeable to the human eye.


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      Yea, so I struggled with this part also. The post processing stuff is normally not good and such, but in this instance, with it off or low, the brightness was too low as in dark. high was blown out and losing the detail and HDR did not seem right. With it the way I have it now, I see a much better spectrum. I am not huge into calibration, I just need the picture to look good.

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      • Christian9
        Pro
        • Dec 2002
        • 526

        #783
        Re: MLB The Show 17 Supports 4K & HDR on PS4 Pro

        Originally posted by jaredowner
        I disagree. I have spent hours fiddling with everything on this forum to make the KS8000 look good with HDR and the only way it looks good is when dynamic contrast is set to high. The biggest thing that makes me say this is that the MLB Network score box is dull and washed out when dynamic contrast is off and looks natural when it's set to high.





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        • The JareBear
          Be Good To One Another
          • Jul 2010
          • 11560

          #784
          Re: MLB The Show 17 Supports 4K & HDR on PS4 Pro

          Originally posted by ricky24
          Can having boost mode on hurt gameplay for games optimized for the pro at all?
          On paper it shouldn't. It is a new feature and glitches/bugs are possible though

          It does say in the Boost Mode description to turn it off if there are any irregularities in games you play.

          I haven't had any issues since boost mode was introduced in 4.50, Last night I had some weird hitches in RTTS, and I turned off boost mode and restarted the Pro. Gameplay seemed smoother after that but it could be placebo.

          Personally, I am just gonna turn it off when I play The Show. It is so easy to turn off and on, takes 4 seconds, no harm in turning it off for a Pro Mode game. Probably no harm in leaving it on either.
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          • solofx7
            Pro
            • Jul 2004
            • 870

            #785
            Re: MLB The Show 17 Supports 4K & HDR on PS4 Pro

            Originally posted by ODogg
            I'm in agreement here, there are a lot of things and just one thing wrong can make it all wrong.
            yes, sadly there are a lot of settings that have to be right to get the pic right or close to right. lol

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            • solofx7
              Pro
              • Jul 2004
              • 870

              #786
              Re: MLB The Show 17 Supports 4K & HDR on PS4 Pro

              Originally posted by ODogg
              I had Dynamic Contrast on medium as well but finally followed everyones advice and turned it off. It looks "not as good" initially but now I think it looks great without it.

              You may want to try it and see what you think, but give it a little time.
              Yea, that might be too big of a change for me. It seems really dark when I do that, could be my eyes. But I do agree that when making these changes you need to play a little after and allow yourself to get adjusted to it. I put in another game after my changes and it was like night and day.

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              • ODogg
                Hall Of Fame
                • Feb 2003
                • 37953

                #787
                Re: MLB The Show 17 Supports 4K & HDR on PS4 Pro

                Originally posted by jaredowner
                I disagree. I have spent hours fiddling with everything on this forum to make the KS8000 look good with HDR and the only way it looks good is when dynamic contrast is set to high. The biggest thing that makes me say this is that the MLB Network score box is dull and washed out when dynamic contrast is off and looks natural when it's set to high.
                dynamic contrast to high is not natural though by the notion that putting on additional processing will further degrade the picture. are you sure all of your other settings are right?
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                • Christian9
                  Pro
                  • Dec 2002
                  • 526

                  #788
                  Re: MLB The Show 17 Supports 4K & HDR on PS4 Pro

                  Originally posted by solofx7
                  Yea, that might be too big of a change for me. It seems really dark when I do that, could be my eyes. But I do agree that when making these changes you need to play a little after and allow yourself to get adjusted to it. I put in another game after my changes and it was like night and day.


                  Most people are used to the "Samsung" picture. Which in most cases is too bright and washed out. It's gotten better last year or two, but that's my opinion. When you look at a good set, your eyes start to process what is perceived as real. Look at a OLED or QLED, and you'll see what I mean. They have to darker offset and wider range that helps that more "real" look be achieved. My girlfriend never saw what I saw until she gave it a little time to adjust and now can tell the difference between sets.

                  Just my opinion on this one.


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                  • jaredowner
                    Rookie
                    • Mar 2013
                    • 36

                    #789
                    Re: MLB The Show 17 Supports 4K & HDR on PS4 Pro

                    Samsung KS8000:
                    Backlight:20
                    Brightness:40
                    Contrast:100
                    Sharpness:10
                    Color:70
                    Smart Led:High
                    HDMI Black Level: Auto?
                    Dynamic contrast: High (seriously looks really bad off) (the mlb network score box is all dimmed out to along with the picture)
                    Color tone:standard
                    Color space: Auto or Native?

                    I don't know I have tried everything to make it look good with dynamic contrast off but it's just not happening. Needs to be high to make it look bright. The thing that really gives it away that something is off is that score box changing drastically when dynamic is off. So washed out.

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                    • Christian9
                      Pro
                      • Dec 2002
                      • 526

                      #790
                      Re: MLB The Show 17 Supports 4K & HDR on PS4 Pro

                      Originally posted by jaredowner
                      Samsung KS8000:

                      Backlight:20

                      Brightness:40

                      Contrast:100

                      Sharpness:10

                      Color:70

                      Smart Led:High

                      HDMI Black Level: Auto?

                      Dynamic contrast: High (seriously looks really bad off) (the mlb network score box is all dimmed out to along with the picture)

                      Color tone:standard

                      Color space: Auto or Native?



                      I don't know I have tried everything to make it look good with dynamic contrast off but it's just not happening. Needs to be high to make it look bright. The thing that really gives it away that something is off is that score box changing drastically when dynamic is off. So washed out.


                      Found this on same site I linked to. Worth a try!?

                      Also, are you running through a receiver?

                      Does the Samsung KS8000 do game mode and HDR content?
                      Yes it does. For best experience, select the 'Game' special viewing mode and set the backlight to max. Set 'Smart LED' to 'High' and 'Color Space' to 'Native'. This results in an input lag of 22.6ms.



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                      • Artman22
                        MVP
                        • Jul 2006
                        • 4985

                        #791
                        Re: MLB The Show 17 Supports 4K & HDR on PS4 Pro

                        Originally posted by jaredowner
                        I disagree. I have spent hours fiddling with everything on this forum to make the KS8000 look good with HDR and the only way it looks good is when dynamic contrast is set to high. The biggest thing that makes me say this is that the MLB Network score box is dull and washed out when dynamic contrast is off and looks natural when it's set to high.


                        That's fine you disagree but you're wrong. Did you read what I said? I was talking about brightness set over 45 is no good and brightness set under 45 and your getting black crush because the person had brightness at 60 which was overboard. Dynamic contrast is artificial processing and it doesn't make things look better. Well, maybe to you it does but no professional calibrators ever uses it. To me HDR looks fine just how I have it. There are many who like watching their content in torch mode (Dynamic mode). That doesn't mean it's a natural looking picture or better. Some people just like everything extra saturated and they see a more colorful picture and assume it's better.

                        I personally don't use dynamic contrast, but if it looks better to you that way that's your choice. You'll also never catch knowledgeable people on AVSforums recommending dynamic contrast either. Also, I wouldn't worry about how the MLB logo looks. I'm more concerned with everything else on the screen.


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                        • jaredowner
                          Rookie
                          • Mar 2013
                          • 36

                          #792
                          Re: MLB The Show 17 Supports 4K & HDR on PS4 Pro

                          Originally posted by Artman22
                          That's fine you disagree but you're wrong. Did you read what I said? I was talking about brightness set over 45 is no good and brightness set under 45 and your getting black crush because the person had brightness at 60 which was overboard. Dynamic contrast is artificial processing and it doesn't make things look better. Well, maybe to you it does but no professional calibrators ever uses it. To me HDR looks fine just how I have it. There are many who like watching their content in torch mode (Dynamic mode). That doesn't mean it's a natural looking picture or better. Some people just like everything extra saturated and they see a more colorful picture and assume it's better.

                          I personally don't use dynamic contrast, but if it looks better to you that way that's your choice. You'll also never catch knowledgeable people on AVSforums recommending dynamic contrast either. Also, I wouldn't worry about how the MLB logo looks. I'm more concerned with everything else on the screen.


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                          Yeah, it's just driving me up the wall. Maybe I need to just let my eyes adjust for a few days on HDR and just see what happens. I just don't get why it's so dark and a bunch of people are also saying it's too dark on HDR. That seems like it shouldn't be happening. My only concern with that mlb network score box not looking good is because if that is not looking natural or normal then something is just wrong. That should look vibrant and not washed out at all but it does get washed out along with the entire picture being too dim or too dark even with all the settings adjusted how the pro's are saying.

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                          • ODogg
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 37953

                            #793
                            Re: MLB The Show 17 Supports 4K & HDR on PS4 Pro

                            Originally posted by Christian9
                            Does the Samsung KS8000 do game mode and HDR content?
                            Yes it does. For best experience, select the 'Game' special viewing mode and set the backlight to max. Set 'Smart LED' to 'High' and 'Color Space' to 'Native'. This results in an input lag of 22.6ms.



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                            Set Color Space to Auto, not Native.
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                            • ricky24
                              MVP
                              • Jan 2014
                              • 4888

                              #794
                              Re: MLB The Show 17 Supports 4K & HDR on PS4 Pro

                              Originally posted by The JareBear
                              On paper it shouldn't. It is a new feature and glitches/bugs are possible though



                              It does say in the Boost Mode description to turn it off if there are any irregularities in games you play.



                              I haven't had any issues since boost mode was introduced in 4.50, Last night I had some weird hitches in RTTS, and I turned off boost mode and restarted the Pro. Gameplay seemed smoother after that but it could be placebo.



                              Personally, I am just gonna turn it off when I play The Show. It is so easy to turn off and on, takes 4 seconds, no harm in turning it off for a Pro Mode game. Probably no harm in leaving it on either.


                              I'll probably just shut it off tonight. I don't see playing any games not getting the pro treatment moving forward anyways. Thanks for the info.

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                              • PadresFan104
                                Rookie
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 462

                                #795
                                Re: MLB The Show 17 Supports 4K & HDR on PS4 Pro

                                Looking through the recent posts I don't see my set so I thought I would add to the chatter...

                                I have an LG OLED65B6P, and have gotten great results on my PS4 Pro. I'm using the latest LG firmware which introduced the new "Game" mode. I've finally settled on "Enhanced Visuals" with HDR Mode On which seems to be the sweet spot for me. I may try sliding the HDR slider up a bit, but right now everything looks great.

                                Anyone else using this TV?

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