I almost never walk anybody...

[djep]

Re: I almost never walk anybody...

There are numerous threads on classic pitching but I don't know too many people who have tried it and gone back to any other method. The ratings matter more than the user input but that doesn't mean user input is nullified. It just means that u can place a pitch exactly where u want it (providing ur using the ball cursor) and it may miss it's mark by a little or a lot, depending on many factors.

There are so many guys on here who are amazing with the controls and virtually never miss a spot. Pitching is boring for them.

But, if u want that sweaty palms feeling of really being in the mound, of being frustrated that the FB ear marked for 8 inches off the black floated back in the zone and got crushed, then u want classic pitching.

Many believe it's the best way to demonstrate the differences between elite and average pitchers.

Try it without changing the level ur playing on and see how it feels.

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But I get all that and actual user input with meterless pitching. The differences between a pitcher with command and one who is all over the place can definitely be felt. I find it's much more intense when you are in trouble late in the game and you lose your rhythm with meterless pitching.

I was a classic pitching guy up until 2011 or whenever they introduced pure analog. Pitching without the meter hits the sweet spot for how I like my sports games - no meters and stick input that mimics the action.

Some people like the 3 click method for golf games, some like the stick swinging, but I can't imagine preferring a method where I pick a target, press a button and just let my golfer's ratings dictate the shot. I also don't use real % in NBA 2k, which is probably the closest comparison to classic pitching in the Show. Your mileage may vary but that is one of the great things about the Show is that they've kept almost all the various control schemes they've introduced in the past.

[Howie75]

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I am using classic pitching for the first time and am really liking it so far.

I don't walk a whole lot of batters, but its definitely a little tougher than using metered pitching. I am only a few games into spring training however, so there's room for change.

My question is this...I am really happy on mostly default All Star (CPU foul frequency at 4) but I wouldn't mind a slight increase to the CPU offense. I still feel like I can pretty much keep the CPU in check with most of my pitching staff. I would like a few more hits and offense, but I don't want to sacrifice Ks in the process. My strikeouts of CPU hitters are just about perfect for me.

Does HOF pitching nerf the K's or just make it slightly more difficult? I have used All Star hitting and pitching for years, but historically my era is a bit low.

[djep]

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Ok guys please help.....I have used analog pitching (wont change) for years. All star setting. I hardly walk anyone and I have pitch counts that are low...throw about 10-14 pitches an inning...If I up the difficulty to HOF or Legend what changes? Is it harder to hit corners? Also where do you go to resize the meter.

At the higher difficulty levels the AI gets better at laying off pitches outside the zone, mistake pitches are more likely to get punished, they're not as easily fooled on offspeed stuff.

To hide the meter:

1) Pick a custom pitching camera and set it to one of the behind the pitcher views.
2) Hit the triangle button to toggle to EDIT PITCH METER. Pick the pie shaped one as it can more easily be ignored
3) Use the L-stick to move the meter around on the screen. I think it's best to put it in upper left corner as far as it will go. It usually ends up right under the score bug
4) I believe L2 or R2 are the buttons to resize the meter so shrink it to as small as possible
5) Press X to save

I think there's an additional step once you get to the screen that shows all your cameras in order to save. Just make sure the listed pitching camera is your custom camera.

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[msmith05]

Re: I almost never walk anybody...

At the higher difficulty levels the AI gets better at laying off pitches outside the zone, mistake pitches are more likely to get punished, they're not as easily fooled on offspeed stuff.

To hide the meter:

1) Pick a custom pitching camera and set it to one of the behind the pitcher views.
2) Hit the triangle button to toggle to EDIT PITCH METER. Pick the pie shaped one as it can more easily be ignored
3) Use the L-stick to move the meter around on the screen. I think it's best to put it in upper left corner as far as it will go. It usually ends up right under the score bug
4) I believe L2 or R2 are the buttons to resize the meter so shrink it to as small as possible
5) Press X to save

I think there's an additional step once you get to the screen that shows all your cameras in order to save. Just make sure the listed pitching camera is your custom camera.

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Thank you!!!

[TGov]

Re: I almost never walk anybody...

I'm actually walking quite a bit of batters. I use analog pitching btw.

[rkocjay]

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i use meter but i am coming to a problem where the timing is being a bit delayed and causing me to throw wild pitches

[Hammerhunker]

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In Tom Verducci's book, The Cubs Way, he describes the channels pitchers must command. Paraphrasing his explanation, channels are the approximate two baseball width of 6" placed on each side of the plate, 3" on/3" off. Some pitchers have dominant command of the pitching arm channel; some have dominant command of the glove side channel. Of course, channels exist on the top and bottom portions of the zone as well.

Apply the understanding of channels to your pitching approach. You never put the ball more than 3 inches on the plate for fear of solid contact. I find that on Veteran or even All Star difficulty, you can get away with missing channels more often than not. On HOF, not so much; On Legend, forget about it.

Now, if you just can't dig HOF or Legend, at least stay true, house rule the channel approach by refusing to pitch inside the channels with 2 or 3 balls. Believe me, you will start accruing walks and/or short outings.

[KnightTemplar]

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Classic pitching, no ball marker, no hot cold zones on (I want to give the CPU a chance ). Quick counts on (love this feature).

This game requires you to pitch like they do in the big leagues. Up, down, in, out, balls out of the strike zone (CPU WILL swing at those). I have zero problems walking CPU batters. Couple that with the individual pitchers attributes, in game stamina, and confidence it's going to happen.

[TheWarmWind]

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All-star pitcher here, bumped my CPU solid hits up to 6 and my walks and pitch count have ballooned, because even that small change has made me fear the zone a lot more, especially when a good batter is at the plate. The black is still pretty safe but if I'm throwing a hittable pitch I better be throwing their timing off.

Still testing, might bump it up to 7 at some point. So far though I would highly recommend. It's crazy how much I'm walking the middle of orders now, whereas before I barely paid attention when they came up.