SDS IF READING PLEASE ALLOW DISABLE MORALE

[Yankeefan1991]

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Please not!!!! Player morale is one few things which keep me motivated in franchise and give me some unpredictable outcomes

[Caulfield]

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Please not!!!! Player morale is one few things which keep me motivated in franchise and give me some unpredictable outcomes

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[NolanRyansSnowmonkey]

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Please not!!!! Player morale is one few things which keep me motivated in franchise and give me some unpredictable outcomes

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[JoshC1977]

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I don't disagree with that. I do find flaws in it, but any solution was going to have flaws.

No, the mistakes I'm referring to are my own. Some guys on my team are going to be pissed off in a few years. I just signed two sophomore starting pitchers to massive contacts in one of those spend more now to save more later type scenarios. I have gave them both the rotation expectation. They are both going to expect to be the ace in the future, no doubt. Just an example, I've got a lot of other young players who are for sure going to be asking for bigger roles and I just cannot provide.

I got ya' (my mistake on mistaking which mistake you were referring to)!

It's interesting for sure. You have to make a decision when offering an extension. Do you give a young guy with huge upside a big contract with a "star" role - running the risk of a morale hit if you don't put him in that role early till he matures. Do you give him a lesser role he can fill now, at the possible expense he will get perturbed later on if/when he develops? Or do you simply give him a year at a time, inching up his contract and role a little at a time (running the risk that you may overpay in terms of total dollars spent)? In a simplistic sort of way, I wonder how these sorts of questions might have played out IRL when teams made the decisions to extend some of their younger guys without extensive track records.

You can "fix" many morale issues with money, but with a finite amount of it, you have to choose wisely. You have to basically pick/choose who you're going to focus your efforts on appeasing and hope that strong team/individual success keep the other guys happy enough to (at a minimum) not get a ratings hit.

The morale system in-game is not perfect, but I absolutely love that it gives us the opportunity to think through these sorts of questions (adding a ton of immersion).

[NYJin2011tm]

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I like having player morale in my sports games.

[tessl]

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I agree morale is gimmick oriented but if you fire your manager and coaches and hire only A level replacements that fixes a lot of it. During the off season offer arbitration or renewable equivalent to what the player wants that fixes a lot also.

It isn't difficult to gain an advantage over the CPU teams in morale. Some of the quirks are a little odd for me. For example a guy who is better in day games or 9th inning/later. Those guys aren't helping the team.

[moTIGS]

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My only main morale complaint is when weak hitters who have high overalls based on defensive excellence want to be “stars.”

A star in this game is based on where in the lineup a guy hits (top four in my experience). But right now I have Mondesi wanting to be a star despite mediocre hitting attributes. He’s a high 80s player because he can run and field. Would be cool if there were a way to appease these guys without moving them up in the order. He has no reason to believe he deserves that given the rest of my lineup.

[Caulfield]

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I will say this: even if morale is made optional in the future, the Studio still needs to tweak player expectation vs player status. they need look no further than current cover star Harper. he is displeased with the contract his real life self signed just last month & is ecstatic about. and you are stuck with his disapproval for the duration of his lengthy contract. you cant fix stupid & you cant workaround it if you already started your franchise

[KBLover]

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I think its a fun system and just like everything, could be tweaked to be better, but its such a minute tool in the whole scheme of the game, that I don't even pay attention half the time.

This is one of my biggest issues with it.

It's not impactful, and even if it was, it's just manipulating ratings. It doesn't really flesh out the player or the game world.

My only main morale complaint is when weak hitters who have high overalls based on defensive excellence want to be “stars.”

A star in this game is based on where in the lineup a guy hits (top four in my experience).

And this is the other problem.

Batting order being the "star status", which is just crazy to me. Whether or not a player is a star doesn't change if he's batting 5th... and not every star player would be ticked off batting 5th. Too uniform and predictable, imo.

[knich]

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I really hope they work on things they already have like player morale. I love the idea, but it has it’s flaws.

In the meantime I am in year 3 of my carryover Yankees franchise from MLB 17 and Judge is not making what he wants but I have no ratings hit.




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Wow..that's great. Judge's power lost 6 points.

Morale is mostly cosmetic. I have players who are unhappy about this or that and I just don't see it "effecting" much of anything. Example, I have a pitcher pitching in the Ace spot (should be a #4 or 5 pitcher) and is estatic and he has a plus 5 ERA. At the same time, I have a "Star" batter (whos mad) hitting 8th and he's my only north of .300 batter right now.
Morale happy or upset, they still go through streaks and slumps. I just don't see a big effect from morale.


I look at morale and try to keep guys happy, but in the end, they play where and when they play.


I think its a fun system and just like everything, could be tweaked to be better, but its such a minute tool in the whole scheme of the game, that I don't even pay attention half the time.

You may be right but I am on 4/25 in season and he has 1 HR...lol

[NolanRyansSnowmonkey]

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Wow..that's great. Judge's power lost 6 points.

You may be right but I am on 4/25 in season and he has 1 HR...lol

I guarantee that this isn't due to morale. We need to think about how low morale or Power would have to fall in order to drop a 99 power (or whatever he is) to 1 HR per month....if Power fell that far, you would see much larger than a 6 point overall drop.

That's not what is happening here. It has to be something else. Especially if others on the team are hitting HR's at a normal rate. Horrible slumps do happen in this game with single players (even with good morale), and i bet that's what this is. I experienced it with Beltre for a while one year. Even if morale did drop Judge's power enough to be noticed in one month, it wouldn't be nearly as bad as 1 HR in a month.

I would imagine many people are experiencing the same morale drop due to his salary. (Unless you are using a different roster than most.) Yet i imagine power seems fine with Judge for most people. But if this caused that big of a drop to power to Judge there would be a large amount of "Judge is horrible in this game" threads.

Seems like plecebo to me. You see 1 HR, and then see low morale, and thus conclude that is the only thing it could be....

This isn't a knock on your issue. I know its frustrating. I just think there is something else causing this besides morale.

[JHodges57]

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My only main morale complaint is when weak hitters who have high overalls based on defensive excellence want to be “stars.”

A star in this game is based on where in the lineup a guy hits (top four in my experience). But right now I have Mondesi wanting to be a star despite mediocre hitting attributes. He’s a high 80s player because he can run and field. Would be cool if there were a way to appease these guys without moving them up in the order. He has no reason to believe he deserves that given the rest of my lineup.

1,3, and 4 are "star" spots in the lineup. 2 isn't which is odd considering how many stars are hitting #2 these days IRL.

[JHodges57]

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Example: I have a young player (75 overall) I extend for a 3 year deal with a "platoon" role. He's good with that. He has a stellar season and his overall shoots up to the low 80s (and the splits dissipate to a degree). NOW, that next year, is he really going to want to be treated as a platoon guy after that kind of growth? Probably not....he knows he has improved and will want to be treated accordingly (i.e. with an everyday or possibly star role).

IMO. the mistake would be if they accepted the role for the life of the extension....not the way it is now.

Of course he would want a better role, so it's his problem that he signed a longer contract with a reduced role. He took what I offered without considering he may play well enough for a better role. He had 2 choices, reject the contract/role, or accept a 1 year contract. The game does not give us the opportunity to adjust the roles until the next extension time. We do have the option to trade him and his attitude to another team though.

[Armor and Sword]

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Great points being made in here. I think we can all agree, the system needs some tuning and some attention.

Bottom line is, I am glad we have it. I enjoy having to work with it. But some things don’t make good common sense and are too black and white like the batting order determining star status.

It should be more dynamic and based on a cocktail of player production, All-Star appearances, awards etc. Team performance does solve a lot of “ratings hits’ and that is what is helping Judge in my franchise (I started with the 2017 OSFM version of Judge and he has progressed into a stud of course). I hit 66 HR’s with him in year 2 and now in year 3 through 25 games he has 6 HR’s, 21 RBI’s, leads the league in walks but also leads the league in K’s! So he is not off to the great start I had hoped. But we won the World Series, I have an A coach and I just fired my first base coach (C rated) and hired an A rated 1st base coach. He hits third in the lineup (or 4th) but before the game I flip him to the 2 slot where I like him and fool the linear star system.

So the hope is SDS will work on the player morale system because this is the closet thing we have to player personality and player issues we have in franchise mode.

What I really would like to see is the team taking the player relationships system they added into RTTS and implement it into franchise mode and expand the player personality/clubhouse storylines inside franchise mode. They also can take a lot of the cool dynamic presentation elements of March To October (which some is already in as I play more and more and get deeper into my season) and implement that into franchise as well.

There is a lot of potential with systems they already have in place. It just needs some focus for a cycle.

Anyway Player Morale has a lot of upside, we all agree it needs some work, but there are ways to have a lot of fun with it right now. It just takes some dancing. LOL.

[Caulfield]

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another thing that could use some TLC is the opposite of somebody like Bryce Harper being upset with the contract mgmt stuck him with is the curious case of the O's Chris Davis. He's expecting only $537k, (off-topic ~ if real budgets are now a thing why do players think the minimumis $537k?) Davis is only expecting $537k and his performance , he's happy to be meeting his performance level. I'm paying him $23 mil , his moral should take a hit because he's being paid like a star but he doesn't expect to produce like one. He should be mad at himself and his morale should take a hit because of his paltry production IMO