so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

[bcruise]

Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

what does that prove??????

Not to be a dick but all box scores prove is you can post a screenshot of a box score.

You just can't argue this. Only thing you can do is try it and if you think it's different all well and good enjoy the game. If you like it on off mode then I personally don't even know why you are in the thread to be completley honest.

Would game logs be a better thing to post? And why so negative toward an opinion that's disagreeing with your own? You're arguing that an option is broken or reversed, so yes, you're going to get dissenting opinion and it has nothing to do with which option a person "likes" more.

[brunnoce]

Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

what does that prove??????

Not to be a dick but all box scores prove is you can post a screenshot of a box score.

You just can't argue this. Only thing you can do is try it and if you think it's different all well and good enjoy the game. If you like it on off mode then I personally don't even know why you are in the thread to be completley honest.

yeh excaclty!
also a 2-0 win is definatly possible if the comeback code is REALLY on... i mean 2 run diferential is no problem to achive...
like i said many times, when i didnt score runs seemed to me taht the ai didnt neither..until i or them explode , and some games that never happen so yeh i had some games that finnished 1-0 2-1 2-0
no biggei here...

[sooner1]

Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

Trust me im sure it's reversed. My game was stuck in legend for awhile. I uninstalled it and it was back to normal. I could go down to allstar and actually fool the computer. On normal legend you can tell its crap. Hitters are like machines. Very boring to never have them chase strike 3 outta zone. Anyway, I would love to play on legend again if this actually has the computer not playing like robots.

[davewins]

Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

I'm getting sick of you jumping my sh!t just because I post something that doesn't agree with your findings. All I was doing was posting this so that I have something on record for when I do try the game with the option set to on. Thats it.

And once again, I'm NOT ARGUING A DAMN THING!!! Nothing, zilch, nada, not one f'n thing. This is the going thread right now discussing this issue. Excuse me for posting my findings in this thread. Until a mod tells me that I can't post my findings, then I'm going to post my findings and contribute to the discussion as I see fit.

So please, put me on ignore or whatever you have to do but don't jump my sh!t because I have a difference of opinion right now. I'm getting sick of it. Thanks.

I am not jumping your sh!t man!!! You need to find the right thread to go in if you are going to try to disprove my "finding" when you haven't even tried it yourself. What kind of finding is a box score??? You haven't even tried this.

Can you explain your intentions????? What could possibly be your intentions here?? There are 2 options. COMEBACK ON and COMEBACK OFF. You can choose which option to play. Forget about defending your beloved game that nothing could possibly be wrong with. Forget about that for a minute and just realize that there are 2 options. Play with the better option. This isn't about who is right or wrong. You are the one here trying to post "evidence" as to who is right or wrong. That's childish.

[JT30]

Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

I'm getting sick of you jumping my sh!t just because I post something that doesn't agree with your findings. All I was doing was posting this so that I have something on record for when I do try the game with the option set to on. Thats it.

And once again, I'm NOT ARGUING A DAMN THING!!! Nothing, zilch, nada, not one f'n thing. This is the going thread right now discussing this issue. Excuse me for posting my findings in this thread. Until a mod tells me that I can't post my findings, then I'm going to post my findings and contribute to the discussion as I see fit.

So please, put me on ignore or whatever you have to do but don't jump my sh!t because I have a difference of opinion right now. I'm getting sick of it. Thanks.

wow, what is wrong with you? Grow up

[brunnoce]

Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

yes it does affect human offense.....in my tests with comeback off about a week ago, whenever I had the lead i remember striking out when I knew I made slight contact with the pci, more double plays and more great plays by the infielders of the cpu.

Bruno's tests were when he was BEHIND, and his pitcher hit a hr on a bomb.

just played another 2 games won 8-2 , cpu scored 2 in the 1st inning....then u know the rest

next game i lost 5-1 they scored 2 early i scored 1 then they added 3 for insurance.

games feel so much more natural now.

yeh man ure right about that..feels a lot better now, like it should
anyway, im just glad its not just we 3 seeing this , and every minute someone new pops in here telling theyre feeling the same thing...cause in my experiecne the difernce in gameplay is just screaming at me, its not something subtle at all...
i got to the point now that im actually raising the AI hitting sliders on legend whereas before with the opiton OFF i would never dare to touch the -5 i had for them, because no matter what slider i had they would kill me!
now, for a start i had it all -5 too and i could dominate them like i should since i set their sliders all the way to the left...so im working my way up slowly untill i get a good feel for it.

[davewins]

Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

Would game logs be a better thing to post? And why so negative toward an opinion that's disagreeing with your own? You're arguing that an option is broken or reversed, so yes, you're going to get dissenting opinion and it has nothing to do with which option a person "likes" more.

My "evidence" is the other credible people here finding the same thing TO A TEE as me.

It's seriously a slap in the face when someone comes on and posts a picture of a box score (like that proves anything). It's a slap in the face because it's basically saying you are lying or you aren't seeing it right. I am trying to help people. I never was here to argue any points with anybody. I just don't see how people have to be so closed minded about this. I have no problem with people playing with it OFF. But, what's the point in coming in this thread and just trying to disprove this. There really is no point at all. This is a discussion to help people that were having problems with the game. A lot seem to be enjoying it more now. Is that such a bad thing to do??

I, and everybody else here must be seeing things though because countryboy posted a box score of a 2-0 game on legend with it off. I have played plenty of games and won by 2 runs on legend. In fact most of my games I have won by 1. It's just so ridiculous to argue this.

[brunnoce]

Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

I'm getting sick of you jumping my sh!t just because I post something that doesn't agree with your findings. All I was doing was posting this so that I have something on record for when I do try the game with the option set to on. Thats it.

And once again, I'm NOT ARGUING A DAMN THING!!! Nothing, zilch, nada, not one f'n thing. This is the going thread right now discussing this issue. Excuse me for posting my findings in this thread. Until a mod tells me that I can't post my findings, then I'm going to post my findings and contribute to the discussion as I see fit.

So please, put me on ignore or whatever you have to do but don't jump my sh!t because I have a difference of opinion right now. I'm getting sick of it. Thanks.

CB i respect u a lot, and u know this...
but i think u should post here your findings with the option turned on, not off...
just my 2 cents, and i must say im really curious to hear whay u gonna say after u play a handfull of games with comback AI ON

[sgthalka]

Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

Guys, relax.

We're just trying to figure out if the intended effect of CPU Comeback is the opposite of its text description in the game.

Anecdotal evidence points to it being reversed. That doesn't mean OFF or ON is the best way to play. The best way to play is up to you. Players should just know what the correct option is.

A lot of folks love consistently tight, close, challenging games, even if a little AI magic is happening under the hood.

And a lot of folks prefer straight games with no CPU bonuses or penalties, even if that makes scores a little more varied. It makes it easier to manage your settings when they actually perform according to their description.

[countryboy]

Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

I am not jumping your sh!t man!!! You need to find the right thread to go in if you are going to try to disprove my "finding" when you haven't even tried it yourself. What kind of finding is a box score??? You haven't even tried this.

I'm not trying to disprove anything! I'm showing that it may not be as cut and dry as simply turning the option on/off. Thats it.

Can you explain your intentions????? What could possibly be your intentions here?? There are 2 options. COMEBACK ON and COMEBACK OFF. You can choose which option to play. Forget about defending your beloved game that nothing could possibly be wrong with. Forget about that for a minute and just realize that there are 2 options. Play with the better option. This isn't about who is right or wrong. You are the one here trying to post "evidence" as to who is right or wrong. That's childish.

My intentions are to discuss this topic. And again, I'm not defending the game, attacking your opinion, or trying to disprove your findings. I'm offering up my findings so that we can all see if there is maybe something else at play besides turning the option on/off. I'm not trying to post evidence that I'm right and your wrong, just posting my findings on this subject.

Its funny though, someone posts there boxscores that agree with your opinion and its all good, I post one that is opposite and I'm a bad guy. And as I said, I posted this so that I have these here for all to see and compare to when I post with the option turned on. But before I can get to that point, I have to explain myself for whatever reason.

So I'm childish. But yet, I'm not the one that throws a fit when someone doesnt' agree with them.

[brunnoce]

Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

Guys, relax.

We're just trying to figure out if the intended effect of CPU Comeback is the opposite of its text description in the game.

Anecdotal evidence points to it being reversed. That doesn't mean OFF or ON is the best way to play. The best way to play is up to you. Players should just know what the correct option is.

A lot of folks love consistently tight, close, challenging games, even if a little AI magic is happening under the hood.

And a lot of folks prefer straight games with no CPU bonuses or penalties, even if that makes scores a little more varied. It makes it easier to manage your settings when they actually perform according to their description.

Not at all...i dont think anyone in here(most here are hardcore sports gamers) can stand any thing under the hood working to produce a certain type of score...
thats for sure.

[countryboy]

Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

CB i respect u a lot, and u know this...
but i think u should post here your findings with the option turned on, not off...
just my 2 cents, and i must say im really curious to hear whay u gonna say after u play a handfull of games with comback AI ON

I'm going to.

[SoxFan01605]

Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

In all honesty questioning this reversed option is just questioning my validity as a poster here at OS. I am not lying with what I see. I am as honest as they come. I didn't write this up to have fun arguing with people. I wrote this up to help people. If people want to try it and it works for them then it's great. If they try it and don't feel it makes a difference then great. They can go back to playing with it off. This isn't a debate or an argument of who is right here. It's simply a test of this option possibly being reversed so that some of us can enjoy the game better.

You simply can not argue this for either side. The only thing you can do is play it and see for yourself. There is no right or wrong answer here. We can be here for days coming up with reasoning why it is or isn't flawed and nobody will get anywhere. The best that we can do as a community is try it and if you like how it plays with it turned ON then keep playing with it turned ON.

It's really as simple and/or as complicated as that.

Interesting. So to question your theory is to question your validity? You seem to want to change the rules as you go. You want the "discussion" (that, by your words, should not really a discussion) to be all grey area, so nobody is right or wrong. Yet you make constant black and white arguments on the subject.

No offense, but you can't have it both ways. If you are going to be so stubbornly tied to your ideas, then don't jump on people for being tied to their's...pretty simple.

As I said before, people's PERCEPTION may be gray area, but whether or not a feature functions or not is pretty straight forward. If people wish to share information they believe shows the mode functioning correctly, that's their right. As it's yours to post whatever you wish giving credence to your theory.

This quasi-guru tone you take with the issue is a bit much. You say this is here to help people, yet you ignore anyone's offering of help that doesn't run parallel with your theory. CB, for example, only posts information in these threads to help people out. So where's the concern for HIS validity?

This is a discussion forum and people with varying viewpoints on the topic will jump in. As long as they aren't attacking and are trying to reasonably discuss the issue, there is no reason to shush them and send them packing.

Your own comments can easily be flipped. "In all honesty questioning this reversed option is just questioning my validity as a poster here at OS. I am not lying with what I see."

By your logic, you are questioning SCEA's credibilty as developers. Is that fair? Of course not. Nobody's questioning YOUR validity. What people are questioning is whether or not there is something amiss with a game feature.

Whether you want that discussion to happen or not is irrelevent. It's a discussion forum and people have the right to respectfully discuss the opposing view as well.

I honestly appreciate you sharing your findings. I'm sure those who share your concerns do even more. I just don't think it's fair for you to constantly rebuke people for sharing their views and their references to what THEY see as well.

[Marino]

Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

My first game with Comeback Mode on I won 1-0 in the 11th. Thank you Andre Ethier.

[davewins]

Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

I'm not trying to disprove anything! I'm showing that it may not be as cut and dry as simply turning the option on/off. Thats it.



My intentions are to discuss this topic. And again, I'm not defending the game, attacking your opinion, or trying to disprove your findings. I'm offering up my findings so that we can all see if there is maybe something else at play besides turning the option on/off. I'm not trying to post evidence that I'm right and your wrong, just posting my findings on this subject.

Its funny though, someone posts there boxscores that agree with your opinion and its all good, I post one that is opposite and I'm a bad guy. And as I said, I posted this so that I have these here for all to see and compare to when I post with the option turned on. But before I can get to that point, I have to explain myself for whatever reason.

So I'm childish. But yet, I'm not the one that throws a fit when someone doesnt' agree with them.

How did I throw a fit?? I asked what does that prove and why are you arguing it.

The only person that threw the fit was you in response to that. Talking about me jumping on your sh!t.

I simply asked you what did it prove. If YOU didn't throw a fit and get all nasty I would of kindly said, oh ok I see what you are doing Country. YOU are the one that needs to chill out. I asked you a simple question.

Yet you continue that you want to argue here. Just do what you gotta do man. Do your test. I'm not going to argue with you on the internet. I can think of plenty better things to do.