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  • swaldo
    MVP
    • Jul 2002
    • 1268

    #886
    Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

    Originally posted by davewins
    hey your status is rookie too! LMAO :wink:
    Yea but this rookie isn't telling you what a hero you are for discovering the comeback option magically makes the game play great.

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    • jcern23
      Banned
      • Apr 2007
      • 636

      #887
      Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

      Originally posted by pbz06
      Yea, it's definately NOT broken nor is it reversed in any way. This is obvious and even the programmer himself stated so. We're going in circles beating the same dead horse, lol.

      As I've said before and I'll say it again, the problem isn't a comeback AI at all. It's the fact that the CPU punishes you and has the big innings and is VERY VERY hard this year, even on lower levels. The CPU goes on punishing modes whether they are trailing, tied, or ahead already.

      I think people are confusing this as a comeback glitch.
      It is amazing that some people can be so sure there is nothing wrong and others can be so sure there is. AMAZING!!!! I have never seen anything like this. You don't see anybody saying well I don't know, everybody is on one side or the other.

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      • SoxFan01605
        All Star
        • Jan 2008
        • 7982

        #888
        Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

        Originally posted by jcern23
        It is amazing that some people can be so sure there is nothing wrong and others can be so sure there is. AMAZING!!!! I have never seen anything like this. You don't see anybody saying well I don't know, everybody is on one side or the other.
        lol...really? You've never seen people take hard-line stances on things? This is akin to every religious, sports, or political discussion I've ever seen. I think we might actually have threads of all of those coursing through the debate...lol.

        What amazes me is the fact that people are still trying to argue the points. If the developer (the very one who designed the system) isn't convincing people, then nobody else here will...lol. At this point it's probably best to just touch gloves and return to your respective corners. Nothing to be gained from this, IMO.

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        • 42
          Hall Of Fame
          • Feb 2009
          • 8801

          #889
          Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

          Originally posted by Russell_SCEA
          It's not a problem if you don't play with it on it doesn't exist. Secondly when it is on all it does is give the cpu a slight contact boost when they are losing and a slight contact penalty when they are winning. Thats it no conspiracy theory.
          I wish those who DON'T believe would consider listening to the guys at SCEA, keeping in mind they take the time to respond to all of us.

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          • davewins
            MVP
            • Sep 2005
            • 1913

            #890
            Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

            Originally posted by swaldo
            Yea but this rookie isn't telling you what a hero you are for discovering the comeback option magically makes the game play great.
            wow! lol it was a joke hence the :wink:.

            Anybody could of tried turning this option ON. I am not a hero for doing so.

            The only reason I ever mentioned anything about people thanking me is to show what this thread is all about and that's helping people and not arguing about who is right or wrong.

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            • davewins
              MVP
              • Sep 2005
              • 1913

              #891
              Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

              Originally posted by buttsakk
              I've been playing the last 15-20 games with this set to ON.

              And I must say, my experience has been a 180 from the OP's experience.

              At the very least 9 out of my last 10 games have all been Pitchers Duals, with the runs being scored in the late innings. Now, I'm fine with that but when the CPU copies exactly what I did in the inning before, this does become annoying.

              I.E. SF(me) vs SD. Game goes into the top of the 8th with 0-0 tie. I get up and pop a double down the left field line with a runner on 2nd. I go up 1-0.
              Next half inning my Reliever Bob Howry somehow loses all control for all his pitches, I end up walking the 6th and 7th batters, then Jason Kenddell(sp?) and pulls an outside fastball down the 3rd base line and gets the runner on 2nd home.

              Ok thats fine stuff like this happens all the time... right? So the game continues into the bottom of the 14th, right after I have Rowand hit a 2-run homer. YESS.... to make a long story short I walk (due to odd pitcher control loss) the next batter and give up a two run homer, again tied at 3-3.

              So I'm convenced that this is not broken (backwards) as suggested. But then again this is just My experience and mine alone.
              Great post man. This is really what I mean by how nobody can prove or disprove this and the same goes for me. I can't prove that playing with it ON plays better because it only does for me.

              That's why this whole thing is so puzzling and that's why this thread is 80+ pages long. Because there is no definite answer. There are plenty of opinions though.

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              • davewins
                MVP
                • Sep 2005
                • 1913

                #892
                Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

                Originally posted by pbz06
                Yea, it's definately NOT broken nor is it reversed in any way. This is obvious and even the programmer himself stated so. We're going in circles beating the same dead horse, lol.

                As I've said before and I'll say it again, the problem isn't a comeback AI at all. It's the fact that the CPU punishes you and has the big innings and is VERY VERY hard this year, even on lower levels. The CPU goes on punishing modes whether they are trailing, tied, or ahead already.

                I think people are confusing this as a comeback glitch.
                I'll admit that I was as sure as you as well and I will repeat that NOTHING is definite. It is opinion based. There are 2 ways to play. With it ON and with it OFF. Whatever suits your needs.

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                • jcern23
                  Banned
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 636

                  #893
                  Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

                  Originally posted by Member_6590
                  I wish those who DON'T believe would consider listening to the guys at SCEA, keeping in mind they take the time to respond to all of us.
                  Oh no!!!! We who believe this flip definitely listen to them and have discussed it with them taking what they say very seriously. They have however stuck by their word that its not backwards and thats the only reason why I don't believe 100 percent somethings wrong. So I do listen to them. To not consider listening to them would be complete ignorance. I just have no evidence that they could be right based on what I personally have seen in my games.

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                  • davewins
                    MVP
                    • Sep 2005
                    • 1913

                    #894
                    Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

                    Originally posted by Member_6590
                    I wish those who DON'T believe would consider listening to the guys at SCEA, keeping in mind they take the time to respond to all of us.
                    Well read all of my posts. I am very well aware of all the comments made by Russell and Brian and I respect both of these guys. However, what they are basing their "answer" on is no more then what I am basing my opinion on. All circumstantial evidence. Nothing that is concrete. This isn't a question if an option turns on or not that is visual like the strike zone or the option that was in fact broken according to others in previous version which is the fielding marker option. My point is I am not closed minded. I believe what I see. I don't need someone else's OPINION to override my own. If there is some sort of diagnostic test that developers use that run through the disc to sort out any type of mishap then I would be all ears but from what I have heard it's all a matter of playing the game and feeling this thing out. Of which I have done myself.

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                    • phillyfan23
                      MVP
                      • Feb 2005
                      • 2324

                      #895
                      Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

                      Originally posted by pbz06
                      Yea, it's definately NOT broken nor is it reversed in any way. This is obvious and even the programmer himself stated so. We're going in circles beating the same dead horse, lol.

                      As I've said before and I'll say it again, the problem isn't a comeback AI at all. It's the fact that the CPU punishes you and has the big innings and is VERY VERY hard this year, even on lower levels. The CPU goes on punishing modes whether they are trailing, tied, or ahead already.

                      I think people are confusing this as a comeback glitch.
                      u say it's definitely NOT broken. that's your opinion....stop trying to push it as a fact. Why are you so adamant in repeating what you think all the time? it seems like it's bothering you that people are saying comeback ON does make a difference.

                      Leave it alone....if you disagree, ok , but why the attitude that you're DEFINITELY right, and people who say otherwise are DEFINITELY wrong.

                      I just don't get it....

                      does it bother you that people are enjoying the game with a the comeback ON feature toggled??

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                      • sooner1
                        MVP
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 1097

                        #896
                        Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

                        Heres the deal. With comeback on the computer came back quite a bit when I was on Allstar or hof. I thought screw this. When I play on Legend with comeback on it feels much better. Hell, I even won a gm by 5 runs last night 7-2. That would have never happend before. The comeback on or off has everything to do with what LEVEL U ARE PLAYING ON!!! I'm serious. Allstar level and hof level I would leave comeback off. On Legend turn it on.

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                        • pbz06
                          Banned
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 1504

                          #897
                          Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

                          Originally posted by phillyfan23
                          u say it's definitely NOT broken. that's your opinion....stop trying to push it as a fact. Why are you so adamant in repeating what you think all the time? it seems like it's bothering you that people are saying comeback ON does make a difference.

                          Leave it alone....if you disagree, ok , but why the attitude that you're DEFINITELY right, and people who say otherwise are DEFINITELY wrong.

                          I just don't get it....

                          does it bother you that people are enjoying the game with a the comeback ON feature toggled??
                          lol

                          I love pot.kettle.black posts like this

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                          • davewins
                            MVP
                            • Sep 2005
                            • 1913

                            #898
                            Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

                            Originally posted by pbz06
                            lol

                            I love pot.kettle.black posts like this
                            can you explain??

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                            • pbz06
                              Banned
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 1504

                              #899
                              Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

                              Originally posted by davewins
                              can you explain??
                              Because you can take my exact post and switch a couple words and the exact same thing applies to the "other side", lol.

                              Just a very ironic post, that is all

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                              • jcern23
                                Banned
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 636

                                #900
                                Re: so I played my first game with CPU comeback set to ON

                                Originally posted by sooner1
                                Heres the deal. With comeback on the computer came back quite a bit when I was on Allstar or hof. I thought screw this. When I play on Legend with comeback on it feels much better. Hell, I even won a gm by 5 runs last night 7-2. That would have never happend before. The comeback on or off has everything to do with what LEVEL U ARE PLAYING ON!!! I'm serious. Allstar level and hof level I would leave comeback off. On Legend turn it on.
                                I dont know I definitely agree with you as far as legend goes but from my experience so far on all star it seems reversed but I just dont have enough to make a statement yet. Who knows I just wish we could get it completely figured out what levels it occurs.
                                Last edited by jcern23; 04-03-2009, 06:51 PM.

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