Gave Up on Manual/Assisted Fielding...and LOVING IT!

[bfindeisen]

Re: Gave Up on Manual/Assisted Fielding...and LOVING IT!

I was skeptical of this. I have always been a manual or assisted MLB gamer. But I tried it last night and LOVE IT. I'm glad I stumbled upon this thread. Thanks OP for the thread.

You're very welcome...glad you're enjoying it!

[bfindeisen]

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I am not sure how auto fielding will help, as I see this happen to the CPU as well. It is always charged as an error though so perhaps we are talking about two different things. The CPU makes some amazing plays at SS and 3B that I feel are beyond realistic. I am just saying that for those that feel auto fielding is more realistic. I would feel kind of like I am cheating if my mediocre players were making diving stops at third that would make a young Eric Chavez look like a bad news bear. I feel like ratings go right out the window with auto fielding, where I feel that the ratings hold much truer with manual. I can see a huge difference when I have my backup playing than with my starters. I have seen the CPU put in players with no experience at positions like SS or Catcher with little to no ramification. Rajai Davis leading the league in stolen bases got thrown out by Felix Pie at catcher.

Couldn't disagree more. How is possible to reflect a player's ratings when you're the one making the plays/judgements, etc...? That's sort of rhetorical as there is nothing you could say to make me agree with those statements, but as long as you're enjoying the game...'to each his own'.

Btw, example. Ball hit down the line...I react incorrectly or dive over the ball with say Adrian Beltre. In real life he would make the play 7/10 times or whatever as he is an exceptional defensive 3rd baseman. While controlling him manually I may make that play 2 or 3 times out of 10...if I'm lucky.

[Dabeeds]

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Couldn't disagree more. How is possible to reflect a player's ratings when you're the one making the plays/judgements, etc...? That's sort of rhetorical as there is nothing you could say to make me agree with those statements, but as long as you're enjoying the game...'to each his own'.

Btw, example. Ball hit down the line...I react incorrectly or dive over the ball with say Adrian Beltre. In real life he would make the play 7/10 times or whatever as he is an exceptional defensive 3rd baseman. While controlling him manually I may make that play 2 or 3 times out of 10...if I'm lucky.

So, you don't think you'll get any better at manual fielding if you keep playing, or you think it's not possible to make these plays on manual ? And did you try shifting your 3rd baseman left for those shots down the line.

[jim416]

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I feel like ratings go right out the window with auto fielding, where I feel that the ratings hold much truer with manual.

Ratings don't go out the window on AUTO, lol. They will go out the window if a person isn't any good at manual though. Just watch some of these guys play on line.

As far as trying to get better by playing on manual....what for, lol. It's simply a choice that makes each gamer more comfortable playing the game. There's no cheating in video games unless you simply make the game one where you are going to be 162-0 for the season, (or, thereabouts).

Sort of like telling a guy who is enjoying the game on ROOKIE that he needs to get better so he can enjoy it more on LEGEND, or visa versa.

[spit_bubble]

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Tried one game on auto... Can't say that I liked it. I want to play the game not watch it. Too bad it's probably the best option. Shifting the fielder doesn't really address the issue.

This is taking a lot of wind out of the sails.

[sportyguyfl31]

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I may have to give this a try and see how this works for me.

Personally, Im a hand s on type of guy.

I want to do as many things as possible, manually, but I also undestand that some things arent very practical.

My only issues with manual fielding, is that I dont think I have ever pulled off a dive for the ball with an infielder, and every now and then I get control of a really bizzare outfielder.

[spit_bubble]

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Went back to assisted, and lost in the ninth because of a grounder at my first baseman... Should have been a routine play really... Just a step to his right (not even down the line) and I'm holding left on the analog stick... And he does that little weak stab at it animation, and come up with nothing...

Wasn't even a hard shot either... A bounding ball... Very routine. I don't think diving would've done anything...

Ugh... Fielding is brutal in this game.

I was going to try to overlook these plays... Count them as erros in my mind... Or say they even out with the ones the CPU outfielders dive at and misplay... But it's just very hard to write this off when it's the difference between winning and losing (for me or the CPU).

One last attempt to salvage this game: Anyone try boosting the fielding reaction under the global sliders? Maybe I'll try it... Though I don't see how it'd fix the dives by the CPU outfielders.

[cardsleadtheway]

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I had a play where there was a ground ball past the third baseman that I thought I could get to quickly enough with my left fielder and hold the runner to a single. Well I made a bad cut and the batter ended up on third. Had I played it safe, it would have been a double. I felt like it was all me that caused the triple trying for a risk reward type of thing. Never would have happened on auto. For better or worse, I enjoy being in control of my own destiny.

[bfindeisen]

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So, you don't think you'll get any better at manual fielding if you keep playing, or you think it's not possible to make these plays on manual ? And did you try shifting your 3rd baseman left for those shots down the line.

The point is that regardless of the player's skills/ratings, it is my video game fielding technique that is being applied to every player, not their inherent fielding qualities. I shouldn't have to get better to make some nice defensive plays with good defensive players...but now we're talking a little about the level of realism. If you want the game to be as realistic as possible, Auto-Fielding has to be the way to go...otherwise its your skill that is being tested, not the player's real-life skill.

[bfindeisen]

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I had a play where there was a ground ball past the third baseman that I thought I could get to quickly enough with my left fielder and hold the runner to a single. Well I made a bad cut and the batter ended up on third. Had I played it safe, it would have been a double. I felt like it was all me that caused the triple trying for a risk reward type of thing. Never would have happened on auto. For better or worse, I enjoy being in control of my own destiny.

Like I said, 'to each his own'. That's perfectly fine if you enjoy playing that way...and I totally see your point. My point, though, is that if you're playing for realism, then you have to go Auto-Fielding, as its the CPU testing the player's fielder ratings, and not my particular video game fielding skill.

[cardsleadtheway]

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Like I said, 'to each his own'. That's perfectly fine if you enjoy playing that way...and I totally see your point. My point, though, is that if you're playing for realism, then you have to go Auto-Fielding, as its the CPU testing the player's fielder ratings, and not my particular video game fielding skill.

I agree with the each his own, but disagree with the realism part. From what I have seen, the CPU fielders perform far above their abilities, whereas I see a huge difference with my starters and my utility guy. I have seen the CPU put outfielders in SS and catcher position (once Baltimore did both to me in the same game) and there was no discernible difference in fielding. Their SS made an Ozzie Smith diving stop and throw from his knees and their catcher, PIE I believe, threw out the leagues top base stealer on a slow breaking pitch. That is far more unrealistic to me than anything I have seen while fielding save for the two outfield issues: stuck in the mud on ground balls and the wall suction. Besides, it is a game made for enjoyment and will never be realistic. I have played baseball all my life and can't remember ever playing any part of the game from the third person perspective.

[bfindeisen]

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I agree with the each his own, but disagree with the realism part. From what I have seen, the CPU fielders perform far above their abilities, whereas I see a huge difference with my starters and my utility guy. I have seen the CPU put outfielders in SS and catcher position (once Baltimore did both to me in the same game) and there was no discernible difference in fielding. Their SS made an Ozzie Smith diving stop and throw from his knees and their catcher, PIE I believe, threw out the leagues top base stealer on a slow breaking pitch. That is far more unrealistic to me than anything I have seen while fielding save for the two outfield issues: stuck in the mud on ground balls and the wall suction. Besides, it is a game made for enjoyment and will never be realistic. I have played baseball all my life and can't remember ever playing any part of the game from the third person perspective.

Not really sure what you're talking about. Firstly, I have never seen those odd substitutions that others have, but I'm not saying it doesn't happen. However, how would that make difference whether you're on AutoFielding or Manual? Either way, the CPU still makes its own defensive substitutions, and you make yours. As far as the realism thing goes, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.

[cardsleadtheway]

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It makes a difference on auto or manual in that if you were using manual and tried to pull off an outfielder at catcher or perhaps a catcher at SS, you would pay the price. On auto, if it performs at the same level as it does for the CPU, there would be no penalty. You could throw whomever you wanted at any position and they would still make those remarkable defensive plays. I am only assuming this, as I have never played on auto, but I do know that the CPU can pull off amazing plays regardless of fielding ability.

[bfindeisen]

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It makes a difference on auto or manual in that if you were using manual and tried to pull off an outfielder at catcher or perhaps a catcher at SS, you would pay the price. On auto, if it performs at the same level as it does for the CPU, there would be no penalty. You could throw whomever you wanted at any position and they would still make those remarkable defensive plays. I am only assuming this, as I have never played on auto, but I do know that the CPU can pull off amazing plays regardless of fielding ability.

Ok, I get what you're saying now...even if I don't entirely agree.

[modore]

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Interesting discussion here. I might give auto fielding a try. The manual fielding has never felt fully "manual" in this series anyway.

I agree with many of the posters who like to play defense. This series has many strengths and makes for a lot of fun. But, fielding isn't one of those strengths.

Off to tweak my season settings.