Do you use the L-stick when batting?

[Phoenixmgs]

Re: Do you use the L-stick when batting?

I think about it, if you just have to press square or x without following through or aiming the game would not be as realistic and it would just be boring.

This, with just using timing, it's like playing a NES or SNES baseball game in 2010. You got the nice 2010 graphics but gameplay that is around 15 years old.

[Hbats1000]

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The L stick gives you no advantage whatsoever.

The best hitter in the Online League that I am in, never uses the L stick at all..he influences flyball, ground ball, 3rd base, 1st base, and reacts accordingly.

There's zero reason to use it..other then "I like it, and thats the way I want to hit. "

If that is the case, then cool.

I'd bet that over 162 games, 2 players using the same team..one using LS, the other not, will have near identical hitting stats.

Nothing against you but that is very ignorant to say.
We can bet a million bucks on that.
Just think about it. Have you ever, ever....evereverver hit a homerun or a gapper WITHOUT the PCI touching the ball?? You better not say yes.

Can you make contact without the pci touching the ball? Yes

Do you have to move the PCI in order to win a game? No, as long as you stay disciplined and swing at select pitches

To each his own but it is fact, if you were to make contact with ball directly in the PCI 100% of the time, as opposed to not, you will get more hits.

Plain and simple. You DO NOT have to use it. BUT if someone knows how to use properly, I have my $ on them everytime because they will make solid contact a higher percent of them time

I must add this as well, really really think about it. If that player in your leauge is the best hitter just THINK about why he is the best. He does NOT move the L-stick BUT im sure he stays disciplined so that he only swings at pitches WITHIN the PCI......THE PCI MAKES A DIFFERENCE!!!!! IGNORANCE!!!

[Boltman]

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I also never used it before and am trying to get the hang of it. After golfing one dead center with Vlad Guerrero (and it feeling like I actually golfed it), I may be hooked.

This is why I use the L stick and the x button to swing! I can "feel" when I pull it to left field, drive it out towards right or golf one up and out if it's a low pitch in my hot zone.

[sportyguyfl31]

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Nothing against you but that is very ignorant to say.
We can bet a million bucks on that.
Just think about it. Have you ever, ever....evereverver hit a homerun or a gapper WITHOUT the PCI touching the ball?? You better not say yes.

Can you make contact without the pci touching the ball? Yes

Do you have to move the PCI in order to win a game? No, as long as you stay disciplined and swing at select pitches

To each his own but it is fact, if you were to make contact with ball directly in the PCI 100% of the time, as opposed to not, you will get more hits.

Plain and simple. You DO NOT have to use it. BUT if someone knows how to use properly, I have my $ on them everytime because they will make solid contact a higher percent of them time

I must add this as well, really really think about it. If that player in your leauge is the best hitter just THINK about why he is the best. He does NOT move the L-stick BUT im sure he stays disciplined so that he only swings at pitches WITHIN the PCI......THE PCI MAKES A DIFFERENCE!!!!! IGNORANCE!!!

You are talking in circles. If I dont move the LS, and swing at pitches within the PCI..i'll get the same variety of hits, depending on my timing and swing influence...I'll pull the ball..I'll gap the ball, I'll hit it down the line, or right back up the middle.

I played 3 games, moving the LS just to experiment...there's no difference in the pitch counts I am able to work, or the quality of my contact...Im not being more or less disciplined as with leaving it alone..so why bother moving it?

Is it more engaging to do it? Sure..Ill concede that..but it has no impact on my offensive production whatsoever.

I hit .290 with 17 homers and 16 doubles with Jason Bay through the 1st half of the season...just for kicks, I'm going to fiddle around with LS for the entire 2nd half. I will be shocked if my hitting rate changes drastically.

[Braves Fan]

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You are talking in circles. If I dont move the LS, and swing at pitches within the PCI..i'll get the same variety of hits, depending on my timing and swing influence...I'll pull the ball..I'll gap the ball, I'll hit it down the line, or right back up the middle.

I played 3 games, moving the LS just to experiment...there's no difference in the pitch counts I am able to work, or the quality of my contact...Im not being more or less disciplined as with leaving it alone..so why bother moving it?

Is it more engaging to do it? Sure..Ill concede that..but it has no impact on my offensive production whatsoever.

I hit .290 with 17 homers and 16 doubles with Jason Bay through the 1st half of the season...just for kicks, I'm going to fiddle around with LS for the entire 2nd half. I will be shocked if my hitting rate changes drastically.

Exactly

People say on one hand that you can get realistic results without using it but then come back and say you must use the LS on higher levels. If the L Stick was a must wouldn't those of us that don't use it suffer?

It's simply not necessary, I've taken pitches low in the zone and hit homers, I've taken pitches down and away and hit line drives into the gap.

I just don't see the point in using it. Phoenix says I'm playing the same way I was 15 years ago, well that's fine I enjoy it. It isn't hurting my gaming experience one bit.

[d-c_138]

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Exactly

People say on one hand that you can get realistic results without using it but then come back and say you must use the PCI on higher levels. If the L Stick was a must wouldn't those of us that don't use it suffer?

It's simply not necessary, I've taken pitches low in the zone and hit homers, I've taken pitches down and away and hit line drives into the gap.

I just don't see the point in using it. Phoenix says I'm playing the same way I was 15 years ago, well that's fine I enjoy it. It isn't hurting my gaming experience one bit.

Test it out, check out the results by pressing on the R3 button after a swing and you will see that the contact is usually weak when not aimed at the right direction. I've gotten some hits when the ball was thrown low and not aiming my l3 stick but if you check the contact report it won't be superb or normal.

[Boltman]

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Listen guys, I'm not really on one side of this little L stick spat one way or the other. I think we can all agree that hitting either way will result in a variety of hit types.


I think what most of us L stick users are trying to say is that (2 things) you get more of a "feel" of where you are putting the ball into play and that it makes it more tangible than simply pressing a button. Something which was done to hit in video games almost two decades ago.

The contact is a bit more (it seems to me anyways) when using the L stick than just hitting a button alone.

If those of you who just press a button get your enjoyment out of the game then so be it. Others are simply saying that it feels better using the L stick when batting.

I have played more than two entire seasons in my RTTS with both. The L stick just seems like you have more control of where you are putting the ball in play. I did get a good variety of hits to all parts of the field when just pressing a button, but, I did not feel like I was actually putting the ball where I was trying to is all.

To each their own I say in the end.

[Braves Fan]

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^ I have no problem with any of that.

FWIW, I was just batting with Troy Glaus and I had two strikes so I had to protect the plate. I get a slider painted on the outside corner at the knees, I hit x and fouled it off. The swing analysis had the PCI covering the ball and said I just missed it and my timing was perfect.

[PsychoBulk]

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Just think about it. Have you ever, ever....evereverver hit a homerun or a gapper WITHOUT the PCI touching the ball?? You better not say yes.

Please see this post, ill quote myself from a few months back...

Here is a homerun i hit with Evan Longoria just now in a game with the Rays in Anaheim. Its actually the next batter (Pena) on screen but you can see that the swing diagram shows my last hit (the Longoria longball) and you can see it already on the scoreboard top right.

Just look at how at nowhere near the PCI, nevermind the middle of the plate, its outside, the reason i hammered is because i picked up the inside fastball very quickly from Kazmir, timed it well and boom, into the left field seats, despite the contact showing chased and only "normal" timing, not perfect.



Guys, i repeat, you do not need the L-Stick to hit well in this game.

IGNORANCE!!!

Is a word i would say sums up your own stance pretty well.

[REDRZA]

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^ I have no problem with any of that.

FWIW, I was just batting with Troy Glaus and I had two strikes so I had to protect the plate. I get a slider painted on the outside corner at the knees, I hit x and fouled it off. The swing analysis had the PCI covering the ball and said I just missed it and my timing was perfect.

Point is, when you check your swing analysis you are always swing right down the middle. So what you are basically always doing, is making contact with either mistake pitches, or pitches that catch a bit too much of the plate.

The problem alot of us have with the gm is that the PCI system is just not working correctly this year. I only play head to head and will frequently check, and sometimes the batter will be looking and swinging low, and the pitch was high. The ball never makes contact with the PCI, yet they still made contact.

This is what is allowing Timing only people to dumb down the gameplay experience. Since the PCI doesn't work like it really should, people "get away" with not having to use the L stick. I can't tell you how annoying it is to use the L stick, sit on and zone pitches, have that realistic battle with the pitcher all game long, to have most fools simply press a single button, no matter where the ball is pitched, and have as much success. It isn't right. Either the game is designed with the PCI hitting system on higher difficulties, or it isn't. Since all previous MLB the Show games were, and since it clearly states inside the games own hitting manuals that it IS a necessary part of hitting on all levels Veteran and above, thats what i'm going by, and thats what it should be.

I realise you Braves fan are probably a CPU franchise player. Thats fine if thats what you enjoy. When you only play head to head and online, it's just not right for someone playing the game with that degree of difficulty and the way the game was designed, to be subjected to some fool pressing a button. The player playing the game the way it was designed should always have the advantage.

[REDRZA]

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Please see this post, ill quote myself from a few months back...




Is a word i would say sums up your own stance pretty well.

Hey BULK, the reason that happens is what i said above, the PCI system seems to be BROKEN this year. First off, in that photo, the PCI DID make contact with ball, barely. And since you CHASED, you clearly should at the MOST fouled off that pitch.

Since you homered it doesn't prove that you don't need the L-Stick to hit, it proves that the PCI system is BROKEN, THIS YEAR! You would never gotten away with that on previous MLB the Show games, and hopefully they fix it for next year then what will "middle swingers" do? Hit mistake pitches or pitches that catch too much of the plate, thats about it.

[DJ]

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Please see this post, ill quote myself from a few months back...

Thanks for posting that Psycho. Like your sliders, btw I had a similar HR with Jason Bay the other day. Ball was low and outside of the PCI but I timed my swing properly and jacked the ball to LCF @ Busch for a HR.

[Dean3790]

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If you guys use the PCI to go to the ball every time, do you EVER swing and miss? Major league players constantly swing over or under pitches. If anything, using the PCI to make contact all of the time is more unrealistic than not using it.

[Dook517]

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I find I have much less plate discipline with L stick hitting, but I am liking the feel of it. Funny, I'm reading Moneyball and the A's practically wanted to fine guys for chasing pitches out of the zone. They'd probably tell their guys to bag the L stick, at least in my case. Lol. I think this is a "I like Coke, you like Pepsi argument perhaps.

[PsychoBulk]

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Hey BULK, the reason that happens is what i said above, the PCI system seems to be BROKEN this year. First off, in that photo, the PCI DID make contact with ball, barely. And since you CHASED, you clearly should at the MOST fouled off that pitch.

Since you homered it doesn't prove that you don't need the L-Stick to hit, it proves that the PCI system is BROKEN, THIS YEAR! You would never gotten away with that on previous MLB the Show games, and hopefully they fix it for next year then what will "middle swingers" do? Hit mistake pitches or pitches that catch too much of the plate, thats about it.

Its nothing new this year at all, its been the same for me on every version of The Show for years.

There is no need whatsoever to use the L-Stick but ive no issue with people who do or dont, its personal preference, nothing more.