Do you use the L-stick when batting?

[Braves Fan]

Re: Do you use the L-stick when batting?

If you guys use the PCI to go to the ball every time, do you EVER swing and miss? Major league players constantly swing over or under pitches. If anything, using the PCI to make contact all of the time is more unrealistic than not using it.

Yeah I thought about this, if a pitcher makes a perfect pitch like he did on me last night should I be able to move the L stick over and make solid contact or should I just have to try and fight that pitch off. Most pitches hitters hit are mistake pitches, very rarely will hitters put great contact on pitchers pitches. It happens but not that often.

It also seems like to me if I use the L Stick on a down and away pitch I will always go to RF with it. Well that doesn't always happen, sometimes players try to pull outside pitches. It doesn't seem like there would be as much hit variety, it seems like you could hit the ball exactly where you wanted no matter what.

I dunno, I just don't think I would like it. I tried it for an inning or two last night and didn't care for it.

[Dean3790]

Re: Do you use the L-stick when batting?

I just hit a HR on a curveball where it hung up high in the zone, completely outside of the PCI. It really isn't necessary.

[Hbats1000]

Re: Do you use the L-stick when batting?

Exactly

People say on one hand that you can get realistic results without using it but then come back and say you must use the LS on higher levels. If the L Stick was a must wouldn't those of us that don't use it suffer?

It's simply not necessary, I've taken pitches low in the zone and hit homers, I've taken pitches down and away and hit line drives into the gap.

I just don't see the point in using it. Phoenix says I'm playing the same way I was 15 years ago, well that's fine I enjoy it. It isn't hurting my gaming experience one bit.

I understand all of your arguements and Ill repeat, to each his own. I just started playing this game about a month and a halft ago and from my experience, I can conclude that using the L-stick is the best way to go for me.

You DO NOT have to use the L-stick, but the L-stick influences where the PCI is and the PCI is the most important thing when it comes to hitting. I started off playing this game without moving the L-stick and then started using it and my stats have shot through the roof!!!

I also play players all the time who do not move the L-stick and they have minimal success against me. Check my stats on theshowcommunity.com im Hbats1000.

To me, the thing about not using the L-stick is that you are essentially waiting for your opponent to make a mistake instead of pouncing on any pitch in the stirke zone.

[moemoe24]

Re: Do you use the L-stick when batting?

Don't you have your Contact and Timing to +10 and play on Veteran?

That's probably why, because you have massive plate coverage with those sliders and have a larger margin of error.

Turn down Contact and play on a higher difficulty and you will see that you either have to wait for a meatball or use the L stick to get consistent good hits.

this is correct and the only way you could hit in this game without using the L stick. Using the L stick, just like turning off guess pitch, is the only way I can play and feel like I'm playing a realistic game. In real life, if a pitch is insde you keep your hands inside the ball and turn on the and if it's outside you go with the pitch. To me the equivalent in the show would be to mve the L stick inside when the pitch is inside and move the stick out on a pitch away.

[coreyhartsdaughter]

Re: Do you use the L-stick when batting?

Please see this post, ill quote myself from a few months back...Guys, i repeat, you do not need the L-Stick to hit well in this game.

Psycho, according to your sliders, you are using default contact on All Star. The screen cap you showed would probably NOT have been a home run on HOF or Legend or with contact at 2 or less, unless you used the left stick.

Speaking in absolutes is dangerous business.

[moemoe24]

Re: Do you use the L-stick when batting?

Yeah I thought about this, if a pitcher makes a perfect pitch like he did on me last night should I be able to move the L stick over and make solid contact or should I just have to try and fight that pitch off. Most pitches hitters hit are mistake pitches, very rarely will hitters put great contact on pitchers pitches. It happens but not that often.

It also seems like to me if I use the L Stick on a down and away pitch I will always go to RF with it. Well that doesn't always happen, sometimes players try to pull outside pitches. It doesn't seem like there would be as much hit variety, it seems like you could hit the ball exactly where you wanted no matter what.

I dunno, I just don't think I would like it. I tried it for an inning or two last night and didn't care for it.

what you assume just isn't true with the stick. First of all I swing and miss plenty because I don't alwYs get the stick to where I intend for it to go. Secondly, if you go with the pitch you don't always hit it to right field. That's where timing comes in. If I move the stick to the right on an outside pitch it's not going to right field if my timing is early......that's just common sense. It's no different than in real life....if you swing too early you are going to pull the ball.

To each his own, but I don't get how sitting there pressing x is challenging nor is it realistic. This is different than turning guess pitch on or off because either way, you are guessing what the pitcher is going to throw. The L stick is just like a batter swinging where the pitch is thrown. Hitting the x button is like standing in the box and swinging on the same plain pitch after pitch after pitch and that's no where near realistic.

[ParisB]

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I think a lot of people don't quite understand how the L-stick works exactly.

It's not an absolute "location" swing. It doesn't mean if you push up you will swing high, or vice versa. It's a plate coverage feature, and it almost represents your eye. If you aim it up on a high pitch, it means you recognize the pitch and have a BETTER chance of putting good wood on it and hitting your sweet spot. If you aim it wrong, your chances decrease. A lot of that is built into the attributes of the batter also, which is why you can get away with not using it on Veteran, or even All-star if you're patient and swing on good pitches. Each batter has a plate coverage and contact rating too, so you can still use swing only, and hit low pitches and high pitches etc.

BUT, your ability to make better/sweeter contact increases if you use the L-stick. It's not an aim joystick. You can still pull outside pitches (but why?) based on your Timing and batter attributes. But it also gives you the ability to be better going with the pitch too.

I'm amazed this went on for so many pages.

[Hbats1000]

Re: Do you use the L-stick when batting?

Please see this post, ill quote myself from a few months back...




Is a word i would say sums up your own stance pretty well.

LMFAO. You also must understand the player your hitting with as well. Evan Longoria is a top player in the league and his attributes coincide. For players like Longaria the ball does not have to be dead center of the PCI to hit a homerun. You hit a home run but I bet if the ball was dead center you would have the ball 450+ feet!!!. Additionally, I said it before, the ball does NOT have to be directly in the PCI to make contact. But there is no denying that the ball must be in or close to the pci to get optimal results.

I love playing player who do not use the PCI. I get lots of ground balls and pop ups. If you want, we can play, im on the ps3

[Hbats1000]

Re: Do you use the L-stick when batting?

I think a lot of people don't quite understand how the L-stick works exactly.

It's not an absolute "location" swing. It doesn't mean if you push up you will swing high, or vice versa. It's a plate coverage feature, and it almost represents your eye. If you aim it up on a high pitch, it means you recognize the pitch and have a BETTER chance of putting good wood on it and hitting your sweet spot. If you aim it wrong, your chances decrease. A lot of that is built into the attributes of the batter also, which is why you can get away with not using it on Veteran, or even All-star if you're patient and swing on good pitches. Each batter has a plate coverage and contact rating too, so you can still use swing only, and hit low pitches and high pitches etc.

BUT, your ability to make better/sweeter contact increases if you use the L-stick. It's not an aim joystick. You can still pull outside pitches (but why?) based on your Timing and batter attributes. But it also gives you the ability to be better going with the pitch too.

I'm amazed this went on for so many pages.

Exactly, I made reference to this before seeing your post. Good information.

[Hbats1000]

Re: Do you use the L-stick when batting?

I think a lot of people don't quite understand how the L-stick works exactly.

It's not an absolute "location" swing. It doesn't mean if you push up you will swing high, or vice versa. It's a plate coverage feature, and it almost represents your eye. If you aim it up on a high pitch, it means you recognize the pitch and have a BETTER chance of putting good wood on it and hitting your sweet spot. If you aim it wrong, your chances decrease. A lot of that is built into the attributes of the batter also, which is why you can get away with not using it on Veteran, or even All-star if you're patient and swing on good pitches. Each batter has a plate coverage and contact rating too, so you can still use swing only, and hit low pitches and high pitches etc.

BUT, your ability to make better/sweeter contact increases if you use the L-stick. It's not an aim joystick. You can still pull outside pitches (but why?) based on your Timing and batter attributes. But it also gives you the ability to be better going with the pitch too.

I'm amazed this went on for so many pages.

Why dont people understand this???
I believe this thread gets confusing when people dont fully comprehend the correlation between the l-stick and PCI. The l-stick represents the PCI, which is the most important factor in making contact. Therefore, I understand how some people argue, "You do not have to use the L-stick," that is true. But, even if you do not move it, you are still using the PCI. If you can move the l-stick, which moves the PCI, to the pitch location on a consitent basis, you will make sweeter and better contact with the ball more often.

[ParisB]

Re: Do you use the L-stick when batting?

Why dont people understand this???
I believe this thread gets confusing when people dont fully comprehend the correlation between the l-stick and PCI. The l-stick represents the PCI, which is the most important factor in making contact. Therefore, I understand how some people argue, "You do not have to use the L-stick," that is true. But, even if you do not move it, you are still using the PCI. If you can move the l-stick, which moves the PCI, to the pitch location on a consitent basis, you will make sweeter and better contact with the ball more often.

I wish a dev would give a complete breakdown in full detail of not just the PCI and L-stick, but other things as well, such as sliders. I see a lot of wrong information and advice being floated around constantly.

The in game descriptions can be very vague and confusing to a lot of people.

[MLB01]

Re: Do you use the L-stick when batting?

The L stick gives you no advantage whatsoever.

There's zero reason to use it..other then "I like it, and thats the way I want to hit. "

I'd bet that over 162 games, 2 players using the same team..one using LS, the other not, will have near identical hitting stats.

What a bunch of BS.. Man, you are seriously delusional.. If a player uses the left thumbstick, he can do much more with pitches on the corners and eges of the strike zone.

[coreyhartsdaughter]

Re: Do you use the L-stick when batting?

What a bunch of BS.. Man, you are seriously delusional.. If a player uses the left thumbstick, he can do much more with pitches on the corners and eges of the strike zone.

This would depend on the difficulty level, sliders, and most importantly the users skill in using the L Stick.

More over, most L stick users do NOT have pitch speed at default or higher.

Your comment would have a higher probability of being true on HOF, and Legend,mor with contact at 0, but as the difficulty descriptions state, the PCI location via the L Stick is more irrelevant on All Star and below. In fact, I'd be willing to bet that on default sliders on Veteren with pitch speed at default - one would have simialar sucess (than the average every pitch L stick user) just by using the 'fly ball' influence and good timing.

[Hbats1000]

Re: Do you use the L-stick when batting?

What a bunch of BS.. Man, you are seriously delusional.. If a player uses the left thumbstick, he can do much more with pitches on the corners and eges of the strike zone.

Thank you very much.

That guy is must be shrooming.

L-stick doesnt matter....LMFAO

[Braves Fan]

Re: Do you use the L-stick when batting?

LMFAO. You also must understand the player your hitting with as well. Evan Longoria is a top player in the league and his attributes coincide. For players like Longaria the ball does not have to be dead center of the PCI to hit a homerun. You hit a home run but I bet if the ball was dead center you would have the ball 450+ feet!!!. Additionally, I said it before, the ball does NOT have to be directly in the PCI to make contact. But there is no denying that the ball must be in or close to the pci to get optimal results.

I love playing player who do not use the PCI. I get lots of ground balls and pop ups. If you want, we can play, im on the ps3

I did the exact same thing with Jose Guillen the other night. The pitch was riding up and in, I hit x and boom it was gone. The ball wasn't inside the PCI either.

This whole argument boils down to do you want to use it or not? That's all, you don't have to use it, if you did those that don't use it would struggle mightily. You guys even admit this but still argue people need to use it just so they can play realistically.

I feel I can play realistically by playing the way I play, I get realistic results and that's all I care about. It's not like the hitter looks weird up there swinging down the middle every time. You couldn't even tell the difference graphically if it wasn't for the after pitch swing analysis. Every hitters swing looks the same whether they are using the L stick or not.