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  • nomo17k
    Permanently Banned
    • Feb 2011
    • 5735

    #16
    Re: Walks in 11

    Originally posted by thegut
    Pujols stat line would have to be a joke if he had 255 walks in a year.
    While it is very rare, > 255 walks in a season is not impossible. The single-season record is 232 BB (Barry Bonds in 2004), so it probably can happen with some truly phenomenal player.

    I'm surprised and intrigued at the same time that only one byte is used for storing the stats! Thought 8-bit gaming days are long gone...
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    • Knight165
      *ll St*r
      • Feb 2003
      • 24964

      #17
      Re: Walks in 11

      I'm not saying the OP is stretching the truth...but with the A.I.....and the way he described his approach(taking until two strikes)....I don't think he could be on H.O.F. and have default sliders.
      Are you sure you didn't make adjustments to those and not realize it?
      The CPU would be throwing MORE strikes if you took strikes. It's more inclined to move out of the zone as you CHASE strikes thrown...on the levels and default sliders.

      M.K.
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      • thegut
        Kitten Mittens!!
        • Jan 2008
        • 635

        #18
        Re: Walks in 11

        Originally posted by nomo17k
        While it is very rare, > 255 walks in a season is not impossible. The single-season record is 232 BB (Barry Bonds in 2004), so it probably can happen with some truly phenomenal player.
        I agree it's not impossible. However it's so above and beyond the walk numbers Pujols post in real life that the OP needs to adjust his sliders. If he walked in and was mad that he got 84 home runs in a season or posted a .624 average with Pujols and the game messed up nobody would give him any sympathy. The Show was made to be sim and playing this game in a cartoonish way may mess up some things.

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        • thegut
          Kitten Mittens!!
          • Jan 2008
          • 635

          #19
          Re: Walks in 11

          Originally posted by Knight165
          I'm not saying the OP is stretching the truth...but with the A.I.....and the way he described his approach(taking until two strikes)....I don't think he could be on H.O.F. and have default sliders.
          Are you sure you didn't make adjustments to those and not realize it?
          The CPU would be throwing MORE strikes if you took strikes. It's more inclined to move out of the zone as you CHASE strikes thrown...on the levels and default sliders.

          M.K.
          Knight165
          I feel the same way. Something is not right here.

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          • Jgainsey
            I can't feel it
            • Mar 2007
            • 3362

            #20
            Re: Walks in 11

            Originally posted by Knight165
            I'm not saying the OP is stretching the truth...but with the A.I.....and the way he described his approach(taking until two strikes)....I don't think he could be on H.O.F. and have default sliders.
            Are you sure you didn't make adjustments to those and not realize it?
            The CPU would be throwing MORE strikes if you took strikes. It's more inclined to move out of the zone as you CHASE strikes thrown...on the levels and default sliders.

            M.K.
            Knight165
            That's very polite of you Knight, but I'm calling bs until a screen shot is provided. C'mon man, how do make a thread like this without some evidence?

            I might as well make a thread about how I hope the power is toned down in '11, because I hit 150 HRs with Arod, on default legend hitting...
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            • slickdtc
              Grayscale
              • Aug 2004
              • 17125

              #21
              Re: Walks in 11

              I take tons of pitches, it's just when it comes down to 3-2, I swing an inordinate amount of time. I can get to within 1 ball of a walk, but all the sudden I lose my patience.
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              • duke776
                MVP
                • Nov 2006
                • 3044

                #22
                Re: Walks in 11

                Originally posted by slickdtc
                I take tons of pitches, it's just when it comes down to 3-2, I swing an inordinate amount of time. I can get to within 1 ball of a walk, but all the sudden I lose my patience.
                Same here. When I get 3-2, I'm like "OH that pitch is totally in the zone," and swing when it's really headed for the backstop.

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                • Doran
                  Pro
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 641

                  #23
                  Re: Walks in 11

                  Originally posted by duke776
                  Same here. When I get 3-2, I'm like "OH that pitch is totally in the zone," and swing when it's really headed for the backstop.
                  Same with me, too. Which is ironic, since if I'm pitching with anybody but a terrible pitcher, I'm doing anything but pitching into the middle of the zone. In fact, 75% of the time in those situations, I'd launch a breaking ball over the plate in that situation to get the batter to swing and miss.

                  Actually, it really depends on who I'm facing. I always bring up batter analysis in that situation.
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                  • sbmnky
                    #ITFDB
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 1206

                    #24
                    Re: Walks in 11

                    Originally posted by duke776
                    Same here. When I get 3-2, I'm like "OH that pitch is totally in the zone," and swing when it's really headed for the backstop.
                    Me too - I put extra pressure on myself once I get a 3-2 count. Or I'll check my swing only to get rung up on a pitch well out of the zone. I'm hoping the custom camera will assist in better pitch/zone recognition.

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                    • dodgerblue
                      MVP
                      • Feb 2003
                      • 1239

                      #25
                      Re: Walks in 11

                      Me as well, a 3 ball count and I get all nervous and end up swinging when I shouldn't or taking strike three.

                      While we are talking walks, this seems to be the one are of the game that seems to be a bit off for me statistically. That and runs scored, which I think could be tied to my lack of walks. All the other stats were almost spot on with the mlb ones.
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                      • Blzer
                        Resident film pundit
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 42549

                        #26
                        Re: Walks in 11

                        Originally posted by TheDoctor
                        I guess they only use 1 byte to store walk data per player as the maximum value for 1 byte is 255.
                        Yes, it's simply a programming thing. They don't expect you to hit a certain amount of walks, so they save as much space as possible by only allocating a certain amount of memory for this statistic (and others) in storage. Once you hit "256," it will go back to zero.

                        There is no reason to disbelieve him, and furthermore there isn't any way that he can truly prove this either. How will he take a picture? His bases-on-balls number already reset back to 0.

                        And Viper, if it's increased, it will be doubled to 512. They can't just do "a little bit more."
                        Last edited by Blzer; 02-14-2011, 11:05 PM.
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                        • ARMORALLL
                          Rookie
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 413

                          #27
                          Re: Walks in 11

                          I find this hard to believe. Walks are to rare in The Show! I'm lucky if I can get 2 a game with the whole lineup and I don't chase many pitches. This is on Allstar.

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                          • Jgainsey
                            I can't feel it
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 3362

                            #28
                            Re: Walks in 11

                            Originally posted by Blzer
                            Yes, it's simply a programming thing. They don't expect you to hit a certain amount of walks, so they save as much space as possible by only allocating a certain amount of memory for this statistic (and others) in storage. Once you hit "256," it will go back to zero.

                            There is no reason to disbelieve him, and furthermore there isn't any way that he can truly prove this either. How will he take a picture? His bases-on-balls number already reset back to 0.

                            And Viper, if it's increased, it will be doubled to 512. They can't just do "a little bit more."

                            It's just one of those things that's hard to believe. I'm not calling the guy a liar, it's just the nature of posting something this over the top on an internet forum. I really couldn't care less, I was just simply saying that this isn't something I can believe with out a picture.

                            As far as a picture goes, he could simply take a picture of his previous year's stat line(assuming he's moved on to the next..) on the back of his player card. As long as we can see those stats, it would only take some quick simple math/reasoning to estimate if he did in fact walk at something like a 35-40% clip.
                            Last edited by Jgainsey; 02-15-2011, 09:22 AM.
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                            • TripleThreat1973
                              Pro
                              • May 2007
                              • 564

                              #29
                              Re: Walks in 11

                              Originally posted by Knight165
                              I'm not saying the OP is stretching the truth...but with the A.I.....and the way he described his approach(taking until two strikes)....I don't think he could be on H.O.F. and have default sliders.
                              Are you sure you didn't make adjustments to those and not realize it?
                              The CPU would be throwing MORE strikes if you took strikes. It's more inclined to move out of the zone as you CHASE strikes thrown...on the levels and default sliders.

                              M.K.
                              Knight165
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                              I agree that it is very unrealistic situation. I just didn;t want to get involved in a day long conversation about whether hes telling the truth or not.
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                              • Blzer
                                Resident film pundit
                                • Mar 2004
                                • 42549

                                #30
                                Re: Walks in 11

                                Originally posted by Jgainsey
                                It's just one of those things that's hard to believe. I'm not calling the guy a liar, it's just the nature of posting something this over the top on an internet forum. I really couldn't care less, I was just simply saying that this isn't something I can believe with out a picture.

                                As far as a picture goes, he could simply take a picture of his previous year's stat line(assuming he's moved on to the next..) on the back of his player card. As long as we can see those stats, it would only take some quick simple math/reasoning to estimate if he did in fact walk at something like a 35-40% clip.
                                Okay, well I'll tell you that World Series Baseball 2K3 had this exact same issue, only it was worse. They would allocate 256 bytes, but they forgot to shift the bits for some certain stat numbers. So remember Rickey Henderson's single-season stolen base record? Yeah, you couldn't ever break it because the 128th stolen base would result in a NEGATIVE 128. This could carry throughout the series though, at least up until 2K6 (maybe that code is still in there for all we know). Back when I wasn't a computer science major in college, I didn't understand this, so you'll see my post as being an innocent little MuffinMcFluffin who just thought they chose the number randomly. But the issue does exist. Check it out:

                                http://2ksports.com/forums/showthread.php?t=86246
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