Talking 'Timing hitting'

[LuGer33]

Re: Talking 'Timing hitting'

Aside from analog, there is now a timing only option, which relies heavily on timing and players attributes, and other thing to a somewhat smaller degree. It doesn't work exactly like last year, but I didn't have any trouble with it a HOF difficulty. There is also zone hitting, which relies heavily on PCI placement, timing, and the other usual suspects. Also not the same as last year.

How come I've played a few games now, averaging only 2-5 hits a game, on Timing Controls, and yet I've had at least double digit "Timing Perfects / Normal" a game that result in groundballs or fly outs.

And I'm playing as the Phillies... guys grounding out are like Utley and Rollins on hitters counts w/ perfect timing resulting in "okay" contact resulting in another out.

I'm aware that it's me sucking here, but I want to know how to fix it because I also could hit fine last year and am failing 2 days into 11.

[Skyboxer]

Re: Talking 'Timing hitting'

Actually I went back and re-read what I wrote. I guess you didn't read or understand or are just nitpicking with me on what I wrote.

Are the fundamentals of the ZONE AND TIMING hitting the same? Yes. To hit with TIMING, you press which type of swing you like. ZONE hitting is using those same exact fundamentals with the added leg analog stick as to where the ball is being placed to hit it.

When did I say that with ZONE hitting you didn't have to adjust the left analog?

I didn't say you didn't say that.
You said "The ZONE hitting as I've seen, is basically the same as TIMING, except you are adjusting the left joystick"

Which is like saying Ice is basically the same as water...
When you add a whole "nuther" element to something that the other doesn't have..how is it "basically the same?"
Was my point.
It's all good. I get your point ans was just being anal

[CMH]

Re: Talking 'Timing hitting'

Skyboxer,

I very clearly remember the developers saying that good hitters will foul off pitches that are not in the PCI.

I haven't seen anyone saying they are getting home runs or solid hits with pitches off the PCI, so if you are then I guess there is something wrong.

But, Nemesis probably doesn't recall the information or misunderstood. I'll search for it if I can, but I am 99% sure the developers said that good hitters can foul off pitches not in the PCI.

[Heroesandvillains]

Re: Talking 'Timing hitting'

Skyboxer,

I very clearly remember the developers saying that good hitters will foul off pitches that are not in the PCI.

I haven't seen anyone saying they are getting home runs or solid hits with pitches off the PCI, so if you are then I guess there is something wrong.

But, Nemesis probably doesn't recall the information or misunderstood. I'll search for it if I can, but I am 99% sure the developers said that good hitters can foul off pitches not in the PCI.

It's not your imagination. I read it too! LOL

I've had exactly ZERO hits when the PCI missed the ball, and only good hitters will even make contact...so far, all fouls. Bad hitters have all been whiffs.

Nemesis, PLEASE, do not petition Ramone to patch this. I love Timing in its current state. It works exactly as it was described. Perfectly.

[Skyboxer]

Re: Talking 'Timing hitting'

Skyboxer,

I very clearly remember the developers saying that good hitters will foul off pitches that are not in the PCI.

I haven't seen anyone saying they are getting home runs or solid hits with pitches off the PCI, so if you are then I guess there is something wrong.

But, Nemesis probably doesn't recall the information or misunderstood. I'll search for it if I can, but I am 99% sure the developers said that good hitters can foul off pitches not in the PCI.

It's not your imagination. I read it too! LOL

I've had exactly ZERO hits when the PCI missed the ball, and only good hitters will even make contact...so far, all fouls. Bad hitters have all been whiffs.

Nemesis, PLEASE, do not petition Ramone to patch this. I love Timing in its current state. It works exactly as it was described. Perfectly.

Oh I understand that and am fine with it as it is. Just don't say it true zone hitting because it's not and rather a zone hitting with a tweaked hitting system.
That's all I'm saying.
The better hitters should just have a bigger PCI that is "graded" as you get towards the outer area of PCI. The far area of PCI would be for weak contact while the inner area is solid contact.

in any case I'm loving timing hitting now lol

[Jgainsey]

Re: Talking 'Timing hitting'

It's not your imagination. I read it too! LOL

I've had exactly ZERO hits when the PCI missed the ball, and only good hitters will even make contact...so far, all fouls. Bad hitters have all been whiffs.

Nemesis, PLEASE, do not petition Ramone to patch this. I love Timing in its current state. It works exactly as it was described. Perfectly.

I really hope they don't tweak any of the current hitting modes in a patch this year to try and cater to all of the guys whining right now. Though it seems like some people have no intention to try and figure out the new hitting mechanics. Not that any of them are all that hard...

Though I think it probably wouldn't have been a bad idea to include a "classic" hitting mode that works like the hitting has worked the last few years.

[NDAlum]

Re: Talking 'Timing hitting'

How come I've played a few games now, averaging only 2-5 hits a game, on Timing Controls, and yet I've had at least double digit "Timing Perfects / Normal" a game that result in groundballs or fly outs.

And I'm playing as the Phillies... guys grounding out are like Utley and Rollins on hitters counts w/ perfect timing resulting in "okay" contact resulting in another out.

I'm aware that it's me sucking here, but I want to know how to fix it because I also could hit fine last year and am failing 2 days into 11.

That's baseball!

Lasers get caught
Seeing eye singles

MLB All-Stars miss pitches down the middle. It's beautiful

Teams like the Phillies go into slumps.

IMO, it's not just about the contact, it's where the ball is. If you hit a high and away fastball most times it's going to be a pop up or you'll roll over it, I don't care who you are.

If Chase Utley gets a fastball on the inner half that catches too much white, his ultra short swing will crush it more times than not. But still he'll miss it at times!

[Skyboxer]

Re: Talking 'Timing hitting'

I really hope they don't tweak any of the current hitting modes in a patch this year to try and cater to all of the guys whining right now. Though it seems like some people have no intention to try and figure out the new hitting mechanics. Not that any of them are all that hard...

Though I think it probably wouldn't have been a bad idea to include a "classic" hitting mode that works like the hitting has worked the last few years.

Who's whining? There's a difference in whining and giving input on options.
Options is what SCEA baseball is all about...and thats trying to cater to all gamers.

[Skyboxer]

Re: Talking 'Timing hitting'

How come I've played a few games now, averaging only 2-5 hits a game, on Timing Controls, and yet I've had at least double digit "Timing Perfects / Normal" a game that result in groundballs or fly outs.

And I'm playing as the Phillies... guys grounding out are like Utley and Rollins on hitters counts w/ perfect timing resulting in "okay" contact resulting in another out.

I'm aware that it's me sucking here, but I want to know how to fix it because I also could hit fine last year and am failing 2 days into 11.

Perfect timing etc.. doesn't mean HR everytime.
That's baseball.

[Heroesandvillains]

Re: Talking 'Timing hitting'

Who's whining? There's a difference in whining and giving input on options.
Options is what SCEA baseball is all about...and thats trying to cater to all gamers.

To be fair, I don't think he's referring to you.

You've been on the boards lately. There's quite a bit. But, that's okay. This is a sign of learning curve, and a homerun from SCEA.

[Skyboxer]

Re: Talking 'Timing hitting'

To be fair, I don't think he's referring to you.

You've been on the boards lately. There's quite a bit. But, that's okay. This is a sign of learning curve, and a homerun from SCEA.

Cool..... Yeah if someone is complaining just to complain then yeah ..stop the whining lol
I just don't like the current ZONE hitting mechanic BUT I'm loving timing now though as it take more ratings into account etc...

It's all good

[Jgainsey]

Re: Talking 'Timing hitting'

Who's whining? There's a difference in whining and giving input on options.
Options is what SCEA baseball is all about...and thats trying to cater to all gamers.

Obviously..

There have been plenty of people providing constructive feedback, but there have also been people who it seems like they almost feel as if the hitting is completely broken.

I love all of the options we have this year, which is why I also recommended that they add yet another hitting option.

I wasn't directing my comment at you in anyway, just a select few who have shown a very stubborn and negative attitude to the way hitting works this year.

[Russell_SCEA]

Re: Talking 'Timing hitting'

Skyboxer,

I very clearly remember the developers saying that good hitters will foul off pitches that are not in the PCI.

I haven't seen anyone saying they are getting home runs or solid hits with pitches off the PCI, so if you are then I guess there is something wrong.

But, Nemesis probably doesn't recall the information or misunderstood. I'll search for it if I can, but I am 99% sure the developers said that good hitters can foul off pitches not in the PCI.

Correct the PCI is actually bigger than the graphic but its just for fouling pitches off. It really only applies to players with extremely high Plate Vision, Plate Discipline, and Contact ratings. Now if you are seeing HR's and solid contact when the ball is no where near the PCI please let me know.

[Russell_SCEA]

Re: Talking 'Timing hitting'

Yeah, I realize what you're getting at. You feel like the hitting is different than last year... that's because it is different than last year.

The hitting option that we've all been using for years on The Show, a mixture of zone and timing, does not exist on this year's game. You might be able to replicate something similar to last year's hitting if you use zone hitting on an easier level, but I dunno.. I haven't tried this.

Aside from analog, there is now a timing only option, which relies heavily on timing and players attributes, and other thing to a somewhat smaller degree. It doesn't work exactly like last year, but I didn't have any trouble with it a HOF difficulty. There is also zone hitting, which relies heavily on PCI placement, timing, and the other usual suspects. Also not the same as last year.

You aren't going to be able to hit exactly like you did last year, because the hitting options aren't the same as last year. Though with a little practice, I'm sure most people out there can master the reasonable learning curve.

Couldn't have said it better myself

[jr86]

Re: Talking 'Timing hitting'

Correct the PCI is actually bigger than the graphic but its just for fouling pitches off. It really only applies to players with extremely high Plate Vision, Plate Discipline, and Contact ratings. Now if you are seeing HR's and solid contact when the ball is no where near the PCI please let me know.

Ok well that clears this up. I am switching to Timing only then as Zone hitting is not 'true Zone' in the sense of the word.
Thanks for clearing this up