The CPU decides the game....

[Jukeman]

Re: The CPU decides the game....

I know there have been many rants about this game, but I have spent a great amount of time playing this game on the all-star level using timing hitting in a franchise with the Angels. The bottom line is that my skill levels are not deciding the outcome of these games. Before you say that I suck or that I have no skill let me say that I work the count, I am very patient at the plate and usually draw 3-4 walks a game. I only attempt power swings when I am up in the count 2-0, 3-1. But like many have stated before me, nothing is more upsetting than seeing that you have perfect timing on a swing (it is timing after all) and you have just missed it or you have weak contact. This is a video game. Who is deciding whether or not I am successful, the CPU, not me, not you. It is very frustrating to battle and finally get the pitch that you are looking for and receive the just missed/perfect timing info. What else can I do?? I don't want a game where every one is Albert Pujols, but at the same time, I do want my skill level to have some type of effect on the game. I don't want to have to use the Red Sox or Yankees in order to win games. For those who argue that they want the VIDEO game to accurately reflect players ratings, then maybe you should play SIM baseball instead of a video game or just let the CPU simulate the games. The whole point of us playing is to be able to change the outcome of the game based on our skill level, not just to be somewhat involved in a pre-determined computer simulation. Video games should attempt to be realistic, but also be fun. There is nothing more frustrating than doing every thing right and not being rewarded. I can live with hard balls being outs because that happens in real life. I cannot live with the CPU randomly deciding if my perfect timing results in weak contact or no contact at all because then my skill does not matter. I might as well watch the CPU play itself instead of getting my hopes up that my performance will have an effect on the outcome. By the way, I am 40 years old and have been playing video games (in particular sports games) since video games were invented. I have never felt this helpless in determining whether I win or lose. When you use timing hitting and your timing is perfect, you should see results. It is hard enough to be patient at the plate and time your swings perfectly.

Raise Human Timing if you feel cheated...

Seem pretty logical

[mike22]

Re: The CPU decides the game....

Raise Human Timing if you feel cheated...

Seem pretty logical

I lowered it all the way and get more pure results.

[ambizytl]

Re: The CPU decides the game....

I know there have been many rants about this game, but I have spent a great amount of time playing this game on the all-star level using timing hitting in a franchise with the Angels. The bottom line is that my skill levels are not deciding the outcome of these games. Before you say that I suck or that I have no skill let me say that I work the count, I am very patient at the plate and usually draw 3-4 walks a game. I only attempt power swings when I am up in the count 2-0, 3-1. But like many have stated before me, nothing is more upsetting than seeing that you have perfect timing on a swing (it is timing after all) and you have just missed it or you have weak contact. This is a video game. Who is deciding whether or not I am successful, the CPU, not me, not you. It is very frustrating to battle and finally get the pitch that you are looking for and receive the just missed/perfect timing info. What else can I do?? I don't want a game where every one is Albert Pujols, but at the same time, I do want my skill level to have some type of effect on the game. I don't want to have to use the Red Sox or Yankees in order to win games. For those who argue that they want the VIDEO game to accurately reflect players ratings, then maybe you should play SIM baseball instead of a video game or just let the CPU simulate the games. The whole point of us playing is to be able to change the outcome of the game based on our skill level, not just to be somewhat involved in a pre-determined computer simulation. Video games should attempt to be realistic, but also be fun. There is nothing more frustrating than doing every thing right and not being rewarded. I can live with hard balls being outs because that happens in real life. I cannot live with the CPU randomly deciding if my perfect timing results in weak contact or no contact at all because then my skill does not matter. I might as well watch the CPU play itself instead of getting my hopes up that my performance will have an effect on the outcome. By the way, I am 40 years old and have been playing video games (in particular sports games) since video games were invented. I have never felt this helpless in determining whether I win or lose. When you use timing hitting and your timing is perfect, you should see results. It is hard enough to be patient at the plate and time your swings perfectly.

I understand completely. I also use Timing. Pujols has had two perfect swings at pitches in his hot zone many, many times. More often than not, make that many more often than not, the swings result in chopper-outs, ground outs, fly ball outs, and popups. Just last night with the bases loaded he has perfect timing on a fastball up in his hot zone only to fly out. Perhaps I should be thankful it wasn't a ground-out into a double play. I, like you, realize that not every perfect swing in the hot zone will result in a hit, but the frequency of times those perfect swings in the hot zone result in negative at bats is damn hard to swallow.

The other game had a runner at first and on my first pickoff attempt, the throw is wild and the runner goes to third. I decided to try another pickoff, this time at third, and sure enough the throw was wild and the runner scored. The terrific scorer in this game called it an earned run. I have many times before made pickoff throws without a problem, so it's not like I don't know how to do that.

Pitchers making contact with a 100 mph fastball? Sure, why not, CPU pitchers are all pretty good at hitting; they can make contact and whack any kind of pitch. How about those amazing CPU fielders? Why even those with abysmal arm ratings fire the ball with amazing accuracy. I tried lowering CPU arm strength and it has not shown any effect. There is more but why should I bother.

I bought a PS3 just for this game; I also have an XBOX for the other baseball game, which I bought first. I am very disappointed with what I've seen in this game, and that includes the fatigue issue I've posted about showing pictures. Anyway, I wouldn't say the CPU decides the outcome of every game, but I am very suspicious of certain occurrences, such as those perfect swings by Pujols at pitches in his hot zones.

[Knight165]

Re: The CPU decides the game....

So if you swing perfectly and the pitcher pitches perfectly, you should "win" in that match up every time?

Oh....that sounds very realistic.

M.K.
Knight165

[ambizytl]

Re: The CPU decides the game....

So if you swing perfectly and the pitcher pitches perfectly, you should "win" in that match up every time?

Oh....that sounds very realistic.

M.K.
Knight165

Do you have a problem reading what I wrote? I wrote in that post to which you are replying: I, like you, realize that not every perfect swing in the hot zone will result in a hit, but the frequency of times those perfect swings in the hot zone result in negative at bats is damn hard to swallow.

[ambizytl]

Re: The CPU decides the game....

Let's take it a step further:

Perfect swing in the hot zone versus perfect pitch--how many times should the pitcher win versus the batter? 50%, 75%? In my experience, the pitcher wins at least 75 percent.

[Knight165]

Re: The CPU decides the game....

Do you have a problem reading what I wrote? I wrote in that post to which you are replying: I, like you, realize that not every perfect swing in the hot zone will result in a hit, but the frequency of times those perfect swings in the hot zone result in negative at bats is damn hard to swallow.

It's not what you wrote.
It's what you're inferring.
Ridiculous.

M.K.
Knight165

[ambizytl]

Re: The CPU decides the game....

It's not what you wrote.
It's what you're inferring.
Ridiculous.

M.K.
Knight165

I know, everything I write is ridiculous to you. Why haven't you replied to my other post about pitcher versus batter and who wins and how often?

[Knight165]

Re: The CPU decides the game....

I know, everything I write is ridiculous to you. Why haven't you replied to my other post about pitcher versus batter and who wins and how often?

Why?
Because you say it...it's true?(and even if it was.....what's the median average in the MLB?....probably between .250-.300....what's that....oh a 75%(thereabouts) success rating for pitchers?)
You've shown nothing in any of your threads....and anyone that puts forth anything to you in contrary is either doing it wrong or you deem it unworthy.
Nobody else sees the things you see.
To me THAT'S suspect, much more than anything going on in the game.
It's pretty entertaining....so I hope you keep it going!

M.K.
Knight165

[ambizytl]

Re: The CPU decides the game....

Why?
Because you say it...it's true?(and even if it was.....what's the median average in the MLB?....probably between .250-.300....what's that....oh a 75%(thereabouts) success rating for pitchers?)
You've shown nothing in any of your threads....and anyone that puts forth anything to you in contrary is either doing it wrong or you deem it unworthy.
Nobody else sees the things you see.
To me THAT'S suspect, much more than anything going on in the game.
It's pretty entertaining....so I hope you keep it going!

M.K.
Knight165

I could say the same thing about you. When someone writes what you don't want to hear....

I've shown nothing? Yeah, what the heck do pictures mean? Nah, how could that be? How could something like that be wrong in your precious game, never happen, totally impossible.

Sure, Randy Wells and other pitchers of same ilk dominate Pujols and his perfect swing at pitches in his hot zone, even fastballs. Yeah, Pujols is your average hitter and one shouldn't expect more from him than say Buster Posey.

[thaSLAB]

Just curious, what is Pujols' batting average?

Let's take it a step further:

Perfect swing in the hot zone versus perfect pitch--how many times should the pitcher win versus the batter? 50%, 75%? In my experience, the pitcher wins at least 75 percent.

So that equates to a .250 batting average? Sounds about right for a team avg. in baseball.

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[BlingBling19]

Re: The CPU decides the game....

I'm still confused as to which is more difficult timing or zone hitting.

[Knight165]

Re: The CPU decides the game....

I could say the same thing about you. When someone writes what you don't want to hear....

I've shown nothing? Yeah, what the heck do pictures mean? Nah, how could that be? How could something like that be wrong in your precious game, never happen, totally impossible.

Sure, Randy Wells and other pitchers of same ilk dominate Pujols and his perfect swing at pitches in his hot zone, even fastballs. Yeah, Pujols is your average hitter and one shouldn't expect more from him than say Buster Posey.

This is just not true.
When something is legitimately wrong in this game, I'm one of the first to vocalize it.
FA Bug
Closer bug
many MoM bugs
and more.
I think I know more than anyone that this game is far from perfect and most guys on this board know that I will acknowledge this fact.
I'm constantly contacting the devs with things that need to be looked at.
However, there are some...like you....who wear blinders to these facts and make claims like you are right now.
You're reaching.
Poorly, I might add.

M.K.
Knight165

[ambizytl]

Re: The CPU decides the game....

Just curious, what is Pujols' batting average?



So that equates to a .250 batting average? Sounds about right for a team avg. in baseball.

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We are not discussing team average, we are talking Pujols.

Isn't hitting attributes a big factor in Timing? Doesn't Pujols have better hitting attributes than most other players? Doesn't that mean Pujols should have a higher success rate against pitchers with perfect swings in the hot zone? There can be no percentage that applies to all hitters in terms of Perfect swing versus Perfect pitch using Timing. I guarantee you if the CPU had Pujols, then he wouldn't be getting over 75% negative at bats with perfect swings.

[ambizytl]

Re: The CPU decides the game....

This is just not true.
When something is legitimately wrong in this game, I'm one of the first to vocalize it.
FA Bug
Closer bug
many MoM bugs
and more.
I think I know more than anyone that this game is far from perfect and most guys on this board know that I will acknowledge this fact.
I'm constantly contacting the devs with things that need to be looked at.
However, there are some...like you....who wear blinders to these facts and make claims like you are right now.
You're reaching.
Poorly, I might add.

M.K.
Knight165

Oh? And why have you not taken those pictures seriously? I took pictures of exactly what occurred and still you say what?