Community Day - GRAPHICS & SOUND - Questions/Concerns/Inquiries

[khronikos]

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There is no doubt the main problem with the graphics is the bland colors which are just not the right shades or saturation for any of the stadiums but I want to say unequivocally 2K does not do anything much better. I totally disagree that 2K makes the field seem anywhere near how it is in real life. The graphics are very lacking in that game imo.

I know I have made it known about grass but I hope they take it seriously and go to a couple stadiums to get some high resolution photos when they redo it. Though the community day was a success simply implementing another field's grass is only going to go so far when the problem is innate. And of course not many stadiums were touched at all in this regard AFAIK. I was just adamant about doing anything to Target. Just something to change it from what it was even if it was still inaccurate. Target Field is simply too beautiful to keep it the way it was.

For instance, the dirt in Chase Field, not sure if they are changing that, is literally just a completely different color. It is so jarring that I am pretty sure all Dbacks fans have to notice this. This is not something small. Anybody who goes to real game realizes the vast difference. And these things are in every stadium that is just one where the dirt is a huge WTF. I think night lighting in real life also significantly changes the aspect of the colors and how we perceive them. Another thing that is missing in the game a bit.

With that being said the Citi Field grass is a different color than the others and though it is not the correct shade or tint it is actually maybe a little more closer to grass. I know they have budgets and time but this aspect of the series really does, and I think it will, need a heavy dose of change for 13. The good thing is that this game has come so far at this point, WAY farther than 2K lol, that we can start focusing on these nitty gritty things.

My whole point was that going to a game and playing The Show are just too very different things. I know this is heavily tied into the lighting and they simply could not fit all these changes in though. For next year and maybe the PS4 I expect the fields will be glorious.

Jaggies are sadly here to stay for this gen. The PS4 is really going to put the PS3 to shame in many regards. My PC would LOVE some Show and I can only dream.

[CabreraMVP]

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I just bought MLB 2k7, all I can say is WOW. The stadiums/fields in this game are PERFECT. My memory was correct. The color of the grass/dirt/sky is PERFECT. It's the most realistic looking fields in any baseball game to ever have come out! It looks exactly how Comerica does during the day.

I took screenshots in the game, but I don't know if I can export them. I think all you can do is view them in the skybox feature. I'll keep trying. But I recomend anybody go pick this game up for 3 bucks and take notice of the shades of green used in the grass and the dirt. The colors are much more dark, or warmer, it's perfect. The Show is miles behind in this area.

If I could transport the players/gameplay of the Show into the MLB 2k7 stadiums, I would never go outside again.

[tnixen]

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I just bought MLB 2k7, all I can say is WOW. The stadiums/fields in this game are PERFECT. My memory was correct. The color of the grass/dirt/sky is PERFECT. It's the most realistic looking fields in any baseball game to ever have come out! It looks exactly how Comerica does during the day.

I took screenshots in the game, but I don't know if I can export them. I think all you can do is view them in the skybox feature. I'll keep trying. But I recomend anybody go pick this game up for 3 bucks and take notice of the shades of green used in the grass and the dirt. The colors are much more dark, or warmer, it's perfect. The Show is miles behind in this area.

If I could transport the players/gameplay of the Show into the MLB 2k7 stadiums, I would never go outside again.

Well Sony is upgrading the grass and lighting for MLB 13 the Show so maybe it will improve a lot from its current form

[EnigmaNemesis]

An it ran a choppy 30 or less frames per second.

And stadiums were far from perfect. They do not hold a candle with what is going on with this game. Nor is the lighting even in the same league, animations, faces, texture quality on uniforms and skin, etc.

But this is not supposed to be compared here right?

[khronikos]

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I just bought MLB 2k7, all I can say is WOW. The stadiums/fields in this game are PERFECT. My memory was correct. The color of the grass/dirt/sky is PERFECT. It's the most realistic looking fields in any baseball game to ever have come out! It looks exactly how Comerica does during the day.

I took screenshots in the game, but I don't know if I can export them. I think all you can do is view them in the skybox feature. I'll keep trying. But I recomend anybody go pick this game up for 3 bucks and take notice of the shades of green used in the grass and the dirt. The colors are much more dark, or warmer, it's perfect. The Show is miles behind in this area.

If I could transport the players/gameplay of the Show into the MLB 2k7 stadiums, I would never go outside again.

2K7, yes, the grass was okay but I am not sure anything else is even in the same league. Even then the grass is very low resolution and so is the rest of the game texture wise. The colors do not match up from stadium to stadium either. It is simply like saying oh the color in one is okay but really in reality the game is not even close. A little better here or there isn't going to cut it.

2K7-2K12 still looks like crap imo in too many areas. Their fans are not even all animated. They are missing literally dozens and dozens of stadium upgrades for every stadium that The Show has and NO their grass is NOT right or trust me I might actually be playing the game right now. Their grass is no better than it is in The Show. It might look a shade more true color wise, NOT MUCH, but in no way is the lighting, shadows, EVEN CLOSE TO THE SHOW in 2K12. NOT EVEN CLOSE.

I admit this is one spot where The Show is awful, and I have no idea why, and yes 2K does have some better shading on the grass but look at it. THAT is what you call realistic grass? If The Show guys redid grass and made it look like that I would personally protest at their offices.

[CabreraMVP]

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Well that picture isn't from MLB 2k7....it is easy to prove your point when you post a picture of what looks like MLB Slugfest on Gamecube.

And why are you talking about 2k12? That series has regressed horribly.

And I don't get why you guys are talking about textures, lighting, animations, and faces. I straight up said, the COLORS of the field of the dirt, grass, and sky are perfect. I didn't say anything else. Stop making this into 2k vs the Show. All I said they use better colors that best represent what a field looks like. I didn't say it's a better game or anything of that nature. I said the grass/dirt/sky is more realistic looking. They are the correct colors. Prove me wrong?

[Pared]

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THIS thread isn't about 2k7.

Keep the thread on The Show.

[tnixen]

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I have all the confidence in the world that Sony can and will make the grass and dirt in MLB 13 The Show look as beautiful as any sports game has to date!

The grass and dirt in MLB The Show is over 5 years old with out a major update correct? If thats the case then it makes some sense why it does not look to good anymore.

If its true that Sony is doing a major upgrade to the grass and dirt next year then I think we all will be in for a real pretty treat

[khronikos]

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Okay, they had that pic in the 2K7 section sorry.

Now for MLB The Show, it is somewhat painful to admit that the grass is the way it is but we have confirmation they are working on it for 13 and I will have a full comprehensive picture document of the best high resolution photos I can find for each stadium. As well I will be going to Target with a decent camera to get pictures of the walls and grass and whatever else in detail.

[magoo1967]

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Same here! Brought this up numerous times. It was fine up till 09.
Since 10 it's hard to distinguish the colours. I believe it was once acknowledged as bug but haven't heard since...

Barnes, Knight and I were actually talking about it the day before last (since Barnes mentioned he was color blind). Do not know if he bright it up to Ramone or not.

But I will shoot Ramone and email and let him know the concerns. As of right now I believe it is still the same.

Just curious if there was ever any definitive info on this yet (indistinguishable pitch history colors during an AB). I tried searching the threads, but I only see where the question was asked a few times, but it's very possible that I missed the answer somewhere.

[WhiteM5]

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I thought I'd give my best Blzer-like fashion by recording it as a video.

I wanted to display it for everyone though, because I would like to hear people's feedback (in the YouTube comments at least) on how it should actually be implemented. The good news is that they already have this kind of camera in place, so now it's a matter of getting it to work for regular gameplay.

<iframe src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/9JVpK59zqM8" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="360" width="640"></iframe>

My improvisational/multitasking speaking skills, as well as my Canadian accent, are very awful I'm afraid. You'll hear a lot of pauses, umms, and other things that are just filler while the game loads and while I try and play it and talk at the same time. I am also afraid that I say "oh-ten" near the beginning of the video, which kind of made me chuckle.

Completely agree with this post. I realize I don't know what goes into adding or changing cameras, but as Blazer points out, they already have cameras which show more ball flight and more of the field.

Why is this important? Couple of reasons: 1) adds drama to judge for yourself how a ball in flight will land. 2) adds drama to be able to see your runner and the ball in play to see if he will be safe or out. 3) looks freaking awesome to see more of the field and the batted ball's arc (like a fan sitting in a seat).

Half the fun of being at the ballpark for me has to do with watching a ball get launched and seeing it die from the wind or keep carrying. The SHOW lacks some of the drama of moon balls and watching the flight of the ball. The broadcast cams are a step in the right direction, but I would love to play a full game with that HR derby cam. Not only that, but am I the only one who would be OK with no cuts or zooms to players? I'd like to watch all the animations play out from that overview cam.

[Majingir]

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Probably asked already, but will the fielders still have that blue circle underneath them if the users are controlling that specific fielder? That seems like the biggest indicator on all games I play.

NHL has a small icon above the players head you're controlling, and WWE doesn't even have any indicator on the person you're using, so want to see if any kind of change will be made for this game.

[Skyboxer]

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Not sure if brought up or suggested ...
Been interested in seeing about gettkng the menus etc.. More baseball looking like ASBB sort of. Looking at lineups would have the look of a lineup sheet etc....

[DamnYanks2]

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I just got finished playing a game with the Yankees, and Swisher came up to the plate, and it reminded me of a question I had. Does Swisher look to the sky this year when he's AB? Just a small thing I would like added.

[MrOldboy]

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Someone asked this, but going through the thread I couldn't find an answer.

Have there been any improvements to the catcher set-up animations/positions?

For something that is seen for a great percentage of gameplay you'd think they'd polish it up a bit. Want to throw a pitch on outside corner and catcher sets up down the middle unless you put the ball marker on the very edge or off the plate. Not sure how many there are now, but there seriously needs to be a few more lateral variations instead of left, middle, right as well as positions off the plate (i.e. high fastballs, sliders down and off the plate). The ideal system would have have at least some more positions for the catcher to get into, then position the glove wherever the ball marker is (unless way out of reach).


Not sure if this was asked or not, but have they mentioned ever of any post release support (other than whats expected from MLB 11's example), any DLC possibilities?

I really wish they add in batting stances and pitching styles post release. I feel that they are some of the last things the devs put in since when we see coverage footage of the game before release a lot of players have generic or old stances in those builds of the games, then on release some of those same players have custom stances/styles. I'd gladly pay for a DLC pack that included a substantial number of pitching styles and batting stances. Even a bunch of generic ones would suffice if making player specific ones create issues.