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  • pokerplaya
    MVP
    • Nov 2004
    • 1275

    #46
    Re: Is there a way to make bullpen pitchers always warm

    When you warm up your pitchers in the pen, it goes off the blue to red bar in the pen. If you warm them to full warm, it will LOWER your warmth when you take the mound for the 8 pitches, allowing you to get your locations, etc... in essence, it is strictly cosmetic.

    Through all the testing I can tell you with absolute fact that Curahee is correct. If you have the setting ON to where you have to warm up your pitchers -- warm them in the pen, and then either take your 8 and get your spots or skip ahead. It does NOT matter.

    If you are not fully warm, the extra warmup pitches do help though. I am talking about a situation where you have warmed your pitcher to a full red bar in the bullpen.
    I'm just an old guy sports gamer...

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    • JoshC1977
      All Star
      • Dec 2010
      • 11564

      #47
      Re: Is there a way to make bullpen pitchers always warm

      As a minor sidebar on this topic, but I am mystified at the number of people who skip the 8 pitch warmup. There is a MAJOR advantage to the 8 pitch warmup (whether a guy is already warmed or not)....

      If you throw strikes during that 8 pitch warmup, the confidence bar for that pitch will increase incrementally (it will also decrease if you throw a ball). This helps immensely when you face your first batter. My general strategy for a short reliever is to focus on his primary 1 or 2 pitches (i.e. fastball and primary breaking/off-speed pitch). You can get the pitch confidence up 3/4 full for a couple of pitches before facing your first batter.

      Hopefully this helps someone.....
      Last edited by JoshC1977; 05-19-2012, 09:21 AM. Reason: clarity
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      • Heroesandvillains
        MVP
        • May 2009
        • 5974

        #48
        Re: Is there a way to make bullpen pitchers always warm

        Originally posted by JoshC1977
        As a minor sidebar on this topic, but I am mystified at the number of people who skip the 8 pitch warmup. There is a MAJOR advantage to the 8 pitch warmup (whether a guy is already warmed or not)....

        If you throw strikes during that 8 pitch warmup, the confidence bar for that pitch will increase incrementally (it will also decrease if you throw a ball). This helps immensely when you face your first batter. My general strategy for a short reliever is to focus on his primary 1 or 2 pitches (i.e. fastball and primary breaking/off-speed pitch). You can get the pitch confidence up 3/4 full for a couple of pitches before facing your first batter.

        Hopefully this helps someone.....
        It IS a major advantage. Which I don't always want.

        I want to be able to skip past the 8 warm up with NO penalty or reward.

        As it stands, some people believe that by skipping them, you are not fully warm. If this is true, then when I skip them, I AM AT A DISADVANTAGE.

        I always believed one way to be true. Now, sleeping on it, I'm not so sure...

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        • Bobhead
          Pro
          • Mar 2011
          • 4926

          #49
          Re: Is there a way to make bullpen pitchers always warm

          Yeah I'm aware of all the confidence stuff but I find throwing 8 warmups to be very boring and time-consuming. I use, on average, 3 relievers in a game. I have no interest in throwing 24 pointless pitches with a batter not even at the plate.

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          • pokerplaya
            MVP
            • Nov 2004
            • 1275

            #50
            Re: Is there a way to make bullpen pitchers always warm

            Originally posted by Bobhead
            Yeah I'm aware of all the confidence stuff but I find throwing 8 warmups to be very boring and time-consuming. I use, on average, 3 relievers in a game. I have no interest in throwing 24 pointless pitches with a batter not even at the plate.
            While I would normally agree with you, I find that this adds a high level of realism, and also gives me an idea what to expect with the pitcher I just put into this huge spot... Sure, its only eight pitches, but its apparent in this game that pitchers have different stuff from day to day. Some days they have great stuff, other days they need to come out from the second you put them in.

            For example, I brought in Joaquin Benoit to my franchise in the last game of my Boston series. After seeing his warm-ups, I immediately started warming another hurler... and it was well-advised, seeing as he got one out and then served up a jack, and then back-to-back doubles.

            I guess maybe its just me, but I don't look at it as boring. I look at it as informative and helpful... If it didn't do anything, I'd totally agree with you... but the fact that it has both a mental/information benefit, and a game mechanic benefit makes it a no brainer for me.

            But, that's just me.
            I'm just an old guy sports gamer...

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            • Heroesandvillains
              MVP
              • May 2009
              • 5974

              #51
              Re: Is there a way to make bullpen pitchers always warm

              Originally posted by pokerplaya
              After seeing his warm-ups, I immediately started warming another hurler...
              That's hilarious!

              Been there...

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              • CMH
                Making you famous
                • Oct 2002
                • 26203

                #52
                Originally posted by pokerplaya
                While I would normally agree with you, I find that this adds a high level of realism, and also gives me an idea what to expect with the pitcher I just put into this huge spot... Sure, its only eight pitches, but its apparent in this game that pitchers have different stuff from day to day. Some days they have great stuff, other days they need to come out from the second you put them in.

                For example, I brought in Joaquin Benoit to my franchise in the last game of my Boston series. After seeing his warm-ups, I immediately started warming another hurler... and it was well-advised, seeing as he got one out and then served up a jack, and then back-to-back doubles.

                I guess maybe its just me, but I don't look at it as boring. I look at it as informative and helpful... If it didn't do anything, I'd totally agree with you... but the fact that it has both a mental/information benefit, and a game mechanic benefit makes it a no brainer for me.

                But, that's just me.
                I get it and this is gonna sound ridiculous because I never skip through any broadcast cut-aways, but I find the 8 warm up pitchers to be the most boring, time consuming task in the entire game.

                And being that I generally do not enjoy skipping any scenes, to press x and speed up the warm ups would actually take away some sense of realism.

                It sounds beyond crazy, but a look at this thread tells me I can't be the only one.


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                • Curahee
                  100 Miles To Go
                  • Jan 2012
                  • 4009

                  #53
                  Re: Is there a way to make bullpen pitchers always warm

                  Originally posted by pokerplaya
                  I find that this... gives me an idea what to expect with the pitcher I just put into this huge spot...

                  I brought in Joaquin Benoit to my franchise in the last game of my Boston series. After seeing his warm-ups, I immediately started warming another hurler...

                  IMO, it doesnt matter who the pitcher is nor his attributes, its how YOU as the gamer use him.

                  I can win with any pitcher vs any team regardless of his repertoire or his confidence in it, because I know how to use them.

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                  • AlecLeamas
                    Rookie
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 41

                    #54
                    Re: Is there a way to make bullpen pitchers always warm

                    I searched the forum for an answer regarding this and found this thread from May, but I get a bit confused:

                    Do I understand correctly that ONLINE, you still benefit from warming up your pitchers (warming up as chosing the action WARM UP)?

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                    • RedK
                      Rookie
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 79

                      #55
                      Re: Is there a way to make bullpen pitchers always warm

                      yea that would be pretty unrealistic if u can just bring in a pitcher right away without getting ur arm loose. The only way it would work really to me is if there was a arcade mode and u turn off certain sliders/ put on some boosters.

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                      • redsrulenc
                        MVP
                        • May 2009
                        • 1428

                        #56
                        Re: Is there a way to make bullpen pitchers always warm

                        For me, I don't have to warm a pitcher up in the bullpen, but once he is in the game, he is fully ready, yet you still have the option to throw the 8 warm up pitches which affects your pitchers confidence in the particular pitch you select to throw in the 8 pitch warm up. It also gives you a feeling of how the pitchers breaking ball is breaking on a particular day and where his accuracy is.
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