Was this years game a disappointment for anyone else?

[merchant1874]

Re: Was this years game a disappointment for anyone else?

I think 13 has been the best if the series it hour doubt. Having said that the game is so ready for PS4.

I can't wait to see some pics/info.

[kiddlex]

Re: Was this years game a disappointment for anyone else?

I hate to say it but I was disappointed with this game as well. In fact, I couldn't get past 3 weeks into my franchise and traded the game. The thing that killed it for me was some weird bug where when I go to catch a fly ball, my outfielder would just bolt to the left. It was as if I just slammed my joystick to the left. The ball that would have been an out now lands and scores runs. This happened like 6-7 times within the 3 franchise weeks. Yeah, and the double play thing messed it up for me too.

Huge fan and I've been buying every year since the 989 days and this was the quickest I've gotten rid of the game. But I can't wait to play on the PS4. Really miss my baseball fix. And this isn't to offend anyone as I think that Russell and Co. do a absolutely fantastic job.

-ghoste

Your r stick is broken. Had the same problem an it's maddeningly subtle to th point I too blamed the game. Switch out controllers and voila, no issue.

[TeriyAkin]

Re: Was this years game a disappointment for anyone else?

I like it as a whole I just hate how when I play with variable strikes zones my strikes are called balls and the CPUs balls are called strikes... Maybe it's just a legend difficulty thing but it's really annoying(I don't want to use the other strike zone because they just don't seem real), not to mention the stick on analog pitching continually going the opposite way of where I flick it and the ball ending up exactly where the CPU is swinging smh, o well

[Grnngld]

Re: Was this years game a disappointment for anyone else?

I wouldn't say this game is unplayable but it has so many little things that detract from it that I've found it greatly less enjoyable than previous versions I've played ('10, '11).

1. Timing window. It detracts from the realism when a 95 mph fastball is more than 3/4 of the way to the plate and I could just be starting my swing and still make solid contact. And as someone else has mentioned, the lightning fast swing speed thanks to the opened timing window is just off and looks terrible.

2. Not too important, but the stupid pose-like-Bautista follow through every righty batter with a one handed follow through does annoys the crap out of me.

3. Pickoffs to third. Seriously? This never happens in real life, never happened in previous versions, so someone decided to put them in this year?

4. The rounding the base slowdowns. Atrocious. I get what they were trying to do but they completely broke something that was hardly broken in the first place. I'm tired of Coco Crisp getting thrown out at home on weak grounders to center field.

5. Several times, I've had the CPU intentionally walk me. When I already had two strikes. Couple of times with a full count, several times with 1-2, 2-2 counts. I did not steal or move runners over with the guys on base in the interim. Makes no sense and did not happen in previous games.

6. Ball physics down the lines are still off. In real life, grounders that stay fair down the lines then usually tail off into foul territory. In this game, they stay straight down the line so the outfielder is able to retrieve it quickly. Therefore, extra base hits on grounders down the line are pretty much impossible to get.

7. Ball physics on foul balls are still off. I'm tired of seeing batters hit the 10 feet high, 10 feet back baby popups that are physically impossible to produce in real life. This has always been in previous iterations as well.

8. CPU managers still don't have a clue about reliever usage. I'm tired of going into team select and changing my controls to the CPU team so I can take out the 23 stamina setup guy that they've been using for 3 or 4 straight innings. Yes, I've turned up manager hook in the sliders but that just leads to starters being taken out in the 6th inning after walking a guy even if they're pitching a shutout.

9. The increased offensive environment (a lot of it due to the new timing window) in this game has led to a cascade effect that's produced everything from unrealistic stats to poor pitcher performance. In what I call the Circle of Abuse, CPU relievers are constantly at low energies because they're used so often due to the starters getting crushed, which in turn leads to the relievers getting crushed since they're being used so often with low energy. By June of my franchise, I've had to go in and "fix" many team's pitching staffs because they're being decimated by pitching too much and too poorly. These aren't just teams with low ranked pitching staffs, I've had to fix CPU teams anywhere from the Rays to the Angels.

I'm sure there's more things but that's what I could think of off the top of my head. In previous versions, I've played at least two full Franchise seasons (basically every game). This version, Ive played up through June the first year and have no interest in playing further.

Anyways, kudos to anyone who read all that.

[asjdwf21]

Re: Was this years game a disappointment for anyone else?

Um.....I just play it because it's fun! Seriously, once I stopped worrying about all the tiny things and focused on having fun, since it's a game made by human beings like you and me anyways, I found out really quick that sometimes the little things don't really matter.

[GreenGlen]

Re: Was this years game a disappointment for anyone else?

Not disappointed at all. Sure there are things that have been mentioned that need work. But I would buy it all over again.

[Jimbo614]

Re: Was this years game a disappointment for anyone else?

Yep.
I just watched Game 6 of the 1986 World Series on Youtube the other day.

Clemens....untouchable for 5 innings. The Mets literally couldn't even pull a FOUL ball off of him.
They manage to "suddenly" knock him off balance and tie the game....
Errors on both sides that lead to runs....Both on very easy plays...
In extra innings the Sox score two to go ahead.....
Then....in the bottom of the frame for the Mets..
Out...Out.....and suddenly...single....single...single....wild pitch....and you know the most famous boot of all time....

It happens.

M.K.
Knight165

Y'know... Somewhere in New England there's some guy wanting to strangle Knight for reminding him of that game...and that Knight enjoyed it so much he's still watching it on Youtube..

[Jimbo614]

Re: Was this years game a disappointment for anyone else?

I see a pattern here.
This game favors the CPU over the player. Not in rally glitches or other things, but in the sense that I and others have noticed. The BEST way to really enjoy and appreciate This game is to "Watch" it on CPU vs CPU. The game is literally made for the CPU. It's as close to flawless as anything I've ever seen in Video Games anywhere.
In fact, if you PLAY it, it kinda doesn't perform as well as if it's left to it's self.
All the criticisms I see in this post, tend to refer to things involving USER results.

In almost every case, it's a matter of the USER not being as successful as the CPU.
Now, I'm not going to blame those who actually PLAY the game rather than WATCH. That's not my intent.
My point is that in one sense, the game actually exceeds expectations in that in most games, the USER has the advantage over the CPU. In fact, I can't name a computer program other than Deep Blue playing Chess where you can't say that.
In The Show that is reversed, and it messes with some people's heads.. "The Computer CAN'T be better than I am", but in The Show, it IS better than you are.
The programmer's are breaking the rules essentially. They've created something that goes against standard thinking.
That's a trait that should be applauded, not condemned.

[THESHAMISASHAME]

Re: Was this years game a disappointment for anyone else?

I see a pattern here.
This game favors the CPU over the player. Not in rally glitches or other things, but in the sense that I and others have noticed. The BEST way to really enjoy and appreciate This game is to "Watch" it on CPU vs CPU. The game is literally made for the CPU. It's as close to flawless as anything I've ever seen in Video Games anywhere.
In fact, if you PLAY it, it kinda doesn't perform as well as if it's left to it's self.
All the criticisms I see in this post, tend to refer to things involving USER results.

In almost every case, it's a matter of the USER not being as successful as the CPU.
Now, I'm not going to blame those who actually PLAY the game rather than WATCH. That's not my intent.
My point is that in one sense, the game actually exceeds expectations in that in most games, the USER has the advantage over the CPU. In fact, I can't name a computer program other than Deep Blue playing Chess where you can't say that.
In The Show that is reversed, and it messes with some people's heads.. "The Computer CAN'T be better than I am", but in The Show, it IS better than you are.
The programmer's are breaking the rules essentially. They've created something that goes against standard thinking.
That's a trait that should be applauded, not condemned.

While I agree with alot of what you said it still takes away from the real interactiveness as I and many gamers crave and as you said it like night and day from people who watch and people who actually play the whole game like myself as I feel most things are given and not earned and that to me is no fun

[Jimbo614]

Re: Was this years game a disappointment for anyone else?

While I agree with alot of what you said it still takes away from the real interactiveness as I and many gamers crave and as you said it like night and day from people who watch and people who actually play the whole game like myself as I feel most things are given and not earned and that to me is no fun

I understand what you're saying; I don't know what the solution would be..
The game IS Interactive on a lot of levels, Most reviews marvel at all the different options there are to explore. But not in the way you wish,
But at the same time, in order to maintain a feeling of realism, they leave a lot to the CPU. And I'm not saying the CPU is perfect. So the end result looks scripted, or because the CPU isn't perfect, the USER is left feeling that something (Soul?) is missing from the game, or worse.
So it seems to me that there's a conflict of interest. To allow for a higher level of interactivity means lowering the level of CPU influence.
It's the classic debate..Should Sim be traded for "arcade" or improvisation by the USER?
Again, that's a matter of personal taste.

[THESHAMISASHAME]

Re: Was this years game a disappointment for anyone else?

I understand what you're saying; I don't know what the solution would be..
The game IS Interactive on a lot of levels, Most reviews marvel at all the different options there are to explore. But not in the way you wish,
But at the same time, in order to maintain a feeling of realism, they leave a lot to the CPU. And I'm not saying the CPU is perfect. So the end result looks scripted, or because the CPU isn't perfect, the USER is left feeling that something (Soul?) is missing from the game, or worse.
So it seems to me that there's a conflict of interest. To allow for a higher level of interactivity means lowering the level of CPU influence.
It's the classic debate..Should Sim be traded for "arcade" or improvisation by the USER?
Again, that's a matter of personal taste.

To quote the Rev Jessie Jackson I believe the word is disingenuous at key moments in the game that make it feel as you say scripted So regardless of what everyone claims or says its still the perception many have and thats just as bad as if it was forced or scripted Once again its the how things happen at key moments which are very iffy at best even if its just perception

[1stpitchhacker]

Re: Was this years game a disappointment for anyone else?

I see a pattern here.
This game favors the CPU over the player. Not in rally glitches or other things, but in the sense that I and others have noticed. The BEST way to really enjoy and appreciate This game is to "Watch" it on CPU vs CPU. The game is literally made for the CPU. It's as close to flawless as anything I've ever seen in Video Games anywhere.
In fact, if you PLAY it, it kinda doesn't perform as well as if it's left to it's self.
All the criticisms I see in this post, tend to refer to things involving USER results.

In almost every case, it's a matter of the USER not being as successful as the CPU.
Now, I'm not going to blame those who actually PLAY the game rather than WATCH. That's not my intent.
My point is that in one sense, the game actually exceeds expectations in that in most games, the USER has the advantage over the CPU. In fact, I can't name a computer program other than Deep Blue playing Chess where you can't say that.
In The Show that is reversed, and it messes with some people's heads.. "The Computer CAN'T be better than I am", but in The Show, it IS better than you are.
The programmer's are breaking the rules essentially. They've created something that goes against standard thinking.
That's a trait that should be applauded, not condemned.

Not trying to be rude at all but why not just watch REAL baseball? There's tv packages that allow people access to (basically) every single game possible.