Pitch Edits 2015 Discussion Thread

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  • OhioCub
    Rookie
    • Apr 2014
    • 409

    #91
    Re: Pitch Edits 2015 Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by BrianU
    I prefer this year. Shelby Miller for example has a totally new style that has him 3-0 so far. http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/201...thod-of-attack
    Yeah, as the year goes on I'll start looking at this current year but right now it's still so early. The only way I'll look at this year this early in the season is if I know someone's added a pitch or something. I'll always go back to last year for velocity though as guys could be going through a dead arm phase or could be throwing especially well.

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    • QuestGAV
      Rookie
      • Aug 2011
      • 315

      #92
      Re: Pitch Edits 2015 Discussion Thread

      Originally posted by DiceMan
      Thanks so much for doing & posting this Quest. I swore I wouldn't start my chise over again but being only 2 games in this is well worth it to input these pitch edits into the roster I'm using. My man.....

      Can you explain what the numbers mean & how to enter them?
      The first number is the guy's fastball velocity in the show. If his FB velocity is different in real life it's in parentheses. His changeup velocity in real life is the next column. His changeup velocity in the show is the 3rd number column. As you can see, most of these are lower than they should be. "New CHG Vel" and "New FB Vel" are the values you need to set their changeup and fastball velocity to in order to make it realistic. If there is no number under "New FB Vel" you don't need to change that. For the guys who do need a change to both you should edit the FB velocity first.

      When you guys do these edits do you use just the 2014 season, or do you like a 3 year average?
      I tried to use the 2014 numbers for guys who had a decent number of pitches thrown.

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      • DiceMan
        NBA All Life Team
        • Mar 2004
        • 2055

        #93
        Re: Pitch Edits 2015 Discussion Thread

        Originally posted by QuestGAV
        The first number is the guy's fastball velocity in the show. If his FB velocity is different in real life it's in parentheses. His changeup velocity in real life is the next column. His changeup velocity in the show is the 3rd number column. As you can see, most of these are lower than they should be. "New CHG Vel" and "New FB Vel" are the values you need to set their changeup and fastball velocity to in order to make it realistic. If there is no number under "New FB Vel" you don't need to change that. For the guys who do need a change to both you should edit the FB velocity first.



        I tried to use the 2014 numbers for guys who had a decent number of pitches thrown.
        Cool thanks for the reply man...I thought that's what they meant but the lower numbers in the New velocity columns were throwing me off.
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        • QuestGAV
          Rookie
          • Aug 2011
          • 315

          #94
          Re: Pitch Edits 2015 Discussion Thread

          Originally posted by DiceMan
          Cool thanks for the reply man...I thought that's what they meant but the lower numbers in the New velocity columns were throwing me off.
          Yeah, I can see that happening. Updated the column headers to make it a bit more clear.

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          • OhioCub
            Rookie
            • Apr 2014
            • 409

            #95
            Re: Pitch Edits 2015 Discussion Thread

            Anyone heard from seanjeezy yet?

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            • cultbuscus
              Rookie
              • Apr 2014
              • 185

              #96
              Re: Pitch Edits 2015 Discussion Thread

              Originally posted by OhioCub
              Anyone heard from seanjeezy yet?
              Not that I know of. Surprising he hasn't even dropped an update.
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              • QuestGAV
                Rookie
                • Aug 2011
                • 315

                #97
                Re: Pitch Edits 2015 Discussion Thread

                Posted on it a bit more extensively in my thread, but wanted to catch people who are looking more at this thread also. It looks like the "break" rating in game applies mostly to vertical movement - ie higher breaks drop more. This makes sense. But it looks like SCEA's (and to a lesser extent seanjeezy's 2014) changeup break ratings are weighted more towards horizontal movement. Guys with big horizontal movement end up being given huge vertical movement.

                Am I just missing the effect of break on horizontal movement in game? It's not particularly apparent when looking at replays. There is some running movement on all changeups but it doesn't appear to increase with a higher break rating.

                I'm on the verge of rerating every changeup in the game based almost solely on vertical movement to keep guys' pitches more true to real life.

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                • cultbuscus
                  Rookie
                  • Apr 2014
                  • 185

                  #98
                  Re: Pitch Edits 2015 Discussion Thread

                  Originally posted by QuestGAV
                  Posted on it a bit more extensively in my thread, but wanted to catch people who are looking more at this thread also. It looks like the "break" rating in game applies mostly to vertical movement - ie higher breaks drop more. This makes sense. But it looks like SCEA's (and to a lesser extent seanjeezy's 2014) changeup break ratings are weighted more towards horizontal movement. Guys with big horizontal movement end up being given huge vertical movement.

                  Am I just missing the effect of break on horizontal movement in game? It's not particularly apparent when looking at replays. There is some running movement on all changeups but it doesn't appear to increase with a higher break rating.

                  I'm on the verge of rerating every changeup in the game based almost solely on vertical movement to keep guys' pitches more true to real life.
                  That's really interesting. I would say, I do love my over-exaggerated change-ups, but those are minor things done I can do for my own staff.
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                  • OhioCub
                    Rookie
                    • Apr 2014
                    • 409

                    #99
                    Re: Pitch Edits 2015 Discussion Thread

                    Originally posted by QuestGAV
                    Posted on it a bit more extensively in my thread, but wanted to catch people who are looking more at this thread also. It looks like the "break" rating in game applies mostly to vertical movement - ie higher breaks drop more. This makes sense. But it looks like SCEA's (and to a lesser extent seanjeezy's 2014) changeup break ratings are weighted more towards horizontal movement. Guys with big horizontal movement end up being given huge vertical movement.

                    Am I just missing the effect of break on horizontal movement in game? It's not particularly apparent when looking at replays. There is some running movement on all changeups but it doesn't appear to increase with a higher break rating.

                    I'm on the verge of rerating every changeup in the game based almost solely on vertical movement to keep guys' pitches more true to real life.
                    Is it like that for all pitches? Including fastballs? I'm gonna have to do some experimenting tonight.

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                    • QuestGAV
                      Rookie
                      • Aug 2011
                      • 315

                      #100
                      Re: Pitch Edits 2015 Discussion Thread

                      Originally posted by OhioCub
                      Is it like that for all pitches? Including fastballs? I'm gonna have to do some experimenting tonight.
                      I looked a bit at cutters/sliders/CBs and their "break" rating appeared to effect both horizontal and vertical movement.

                      4SFBs seem to run more with increased "break" with relatively little change in vertical movement. 2SFB/SNK seem to sink more with increased break with relatively little change in horizontal movement. I'm not sure if that's entirely consistent with how SCEA has them rated. It's a bit tougher to distinguish with fastballs because the break is not as ridiculous as with changeups. Definitely test it out and see if you're seeing the same things.

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                      • sky63
                        Rookie
                        • May 2005
                        • 164

                        #101
                        Re: Pitch Edits 2015 Discussion Thread

                        Originally posted by OhioCub
                        Anyone heard from seanjeezy yet?
                        Don't worry my friend, last years he totally disappear to and everyone was worry but he was find, he was just to occupy with the ratings that he totally submerge in his every year project so he can complete the spreedsheat on time.......

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                        • redsfan4life
                          MVP
                          • Mar 2005
                          • 2763

                          #102
                          Re: Pitch Edits 2015 Discussion Thread

                          I am done with the NL for my edits. Just have the AL left to do. Should take 4-5 more days.
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                          • bacon96
                            Bacon's Fictional Roster
                            • Feb 2013
                            • 1963

                            #103
                            Re: Pitch Edits 2015 Discussion Thread

                            So is this still gonna happen?
                            BFR's future is still TBD, stay tuned for updates

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