2011 MLB Trade Deadline Thread

[BunnyHardaway]

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It'll be hard to root for Bedard because he's in Boston, but I'd love to see him regain his 2007 form. During the summer of that year he was as good as I had ever seen. It's a shame he didn't have more of a bulldog mentality or he would've been really special (1 career CG, never pitched 200+ innings, routinely asked to be taken out of games while in Baltimore, etc.).

[TheMatrix31]

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. Bourn is probably the best base-stealer the Braves have had since Otis Nixon.

Exactly what I was thinking.

[ty5oke]

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It'll be hard to root for Bedard because he's in Boston, but I'd love to see him regain his 2007 form. During the summer of that year he was as good as I had ever seen. It's a shame he didn't have more of a bulldog mentality or he would've been really special (1 career CG, never pitched 200+ innings, routinely asked to be taken out of games while in Baltimore, etc.).

Maybe during games, but it seems to me that he must have some of a bulldog mentality to keep coming back from all the injuries.

[BunnyHardaway]

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Maybe during games, but it seems to me that he must have some of a bulldog mentality to keep coming back from all the injuries.

I was talking about in-game...for some reason I specifically remember this one:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/bo...00705200.shtml

Dominating through 7 (only 98 pitches) and he asked Perlozzo to go to the bullpen, who proceeded to blow the lead.

[ty5oke]

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I was talking about in-game...for some reason I specifically remember this one:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/bo...00705200.shtml

Dominating through 7 (only 98 pitches) and he asked Perlozzo to go to the bullpen, who proceeded to blow the lead.

12K's in 7IP no way I'm asking to leave that game... I can agree with you on that front. It just seems he's always got a bad rep for that kind of stuff and his attitude on the mound but doesn't get any credit for coming back from so many injuries.

[OSUFan_88]

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I can't even be mad at the Pirates.

Did need Ludwick though...

Here's to hoping a wavier wire deal can come through for us.

[BatsareBugs]

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I don't know, Ludwick's best stretch this year I think was against NL Central teams. Even though he's a right-handed power hitter, he didn't do well for this team especially at PETCO Park.

[CabreraMVP]

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Tigers made a great move. Fister has better numbers than guys like Lincecum. He's also under contract for a while. They have Verlander, Porcello, Scherzer, Fister, and Jacob Turner who will all be under contract for 3 more years. Helps them now and in the future. Great rotation. Pauley can also help stabilize the bullpen, he's also around for a while.

The Tigers managed to make themselves better now, and in the future, and they didn't really give up a whole lot. Wells is a real nice player but nothing to lose sleep over. Furbush is going to hurt himself. Horrible mechanics. He also has very little mound presence and looks scared. Martinez is solid, but the Tigers 2nd best prospect plays the same position and is just a level behind him.

I think the Indians took a big risk. Sending 4 prospects for a guy who mysteriously lost 3-4 mph of his fastball? They felt pressure to make a big move, it could come back to haunt them.

I like what the Braves did with Michael Bourn also. He should really help their offense hitting at the top of the order. They are a mess without Chipper, McCann, and then Hayward, Prado, Gonzalez all struggling.

[spit_bubble]

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I love what the Ms did.

Fister has pitched well this year well, but he was far exceeding expectations. If he continues to pitch at this level for very much longer I will be very surprised.

As for the Bedard deal, seems like a good return on someone who hasn't pitched in August since 2007.

[OSUFan_88]

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I still don't understand HOW we got Ubaldo.

He's not hurt...did they really just hate his personality? I can't understand that...

[Shield]

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Wow, Rangers sure did well with Mike Adams. That's gotta mean SD will be keeping Bell longterm.

[Kruza]

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Tigers made a great move. Fister has better numbers than guys like Lincecum. He's also under contract for a while. They have Verlander, Porcello, Scherzer, Fister, and Jacob Turner who will all be under contract for 3 more years. Helps them now and in the future. Great rotation. Pauley can also help stabilize the bullpen, he's also around for a while.

Co-sign about the Tigers rotation with Doug Fister on board. It's certainly set up nice for the next few years. I like the David Pauley acquisition too. Looks like he'll be able to do for the Tigers what Ryan Perry was supposed to do but hasn't. Perry's days are likely numbered now.

I still don't understand HOW we got Ubaldo.

He's not hurt...did they really just hate his personality? I can't understand that...

It's not Ubaldo's personality that's the issue. It's the sudden loss in velocity, as CabreraMVP pointed out. There's no way I can't prove this, but I think it's a situation where either the Rockies pitching coach or someone else on that team's coaching staff talked Ubaldo Jimenez into tweaking his mechanics/delivery trying to fix something that wasn't even broken in the first place, and doing that made Ubaldo regress a bit. Now his stuff is still really good, but his fastball is not electric anymore.

At any rate, the Yankees wanted Ubaldo badly but not at the price the Rockies were asking for. The Red Sox wanted him as well, though not to the extent as New York had. The Indians were the only team that had the prospects it took to acquire Ubaldo and was also willing to take a chance and have faith in him being able to recapture his 2010 form.

Kruza

[CabreraMVP]

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I still don't understand HOW we got Ubaldo.

He's not hurt...did they really just hate his personality? I can't understand that...

He's overrated because of his 1 great half. He's been a .500 pitcher his whole career other than the first half of last season. (I'm not saying record proves how good a pitcher is). He's not an ace, never has been. He's posted an ERA lower than 3.47 once, and that was last year when he had 3.80 ERA in the 2nd half and went 4-7.

And his numbers are sure to go up playing in the AL Central. He's given up 8 runs in 11 career innings agaisnt Detroit who he will see a lot down the stretch, and his interleague ERA is over 4.

He's been a good pitcher (not a number 1 starter on a good team), has lost a ton of velocity this season, and struggles in the AL. And Cleveland gave up 2 top prospects for him.

[knucklar]

Well this trade deadline was sort of anti-climatic. MLB Network spent six hours to cover it on air yesterday and for what, a three team trade so Boston could pick up a mediocre, back of the rotation pitcher?

[av7]

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I still don't understand HOW we got Ubaldo.

He's not hurt...did they really just hate his personality? I can't understand that...

Here you go

http://www.denverpost.com/rockies/ci_18590206

http://www.denverpost.com/rockies/ci_18591786