Am I the only one that thinks Steve Finley should be an All-Star?

**feedmeccc** · 07-07-2004, 10:51 AM

Re: Am I the only one that thinks Steve Finley should be an All-Star?

Tony Womack deserves it more then both of them

**TheLetterZ** · 07-07-2004, 03:23 PM

Re: Am I the only one that thinks Steve Finley should be an All-Star?

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hulkster29 said:
Finley deserves to go over Abreu - sorry Philly fans..

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How do you figure?

**TheLetterZ** · 07-07-2004, 03:23 PM

Re: Am I the only one that thinks Steve Finley should be an All-Star?

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hulkster29 said:
Finley deserves to go over Abreu - sorry Philly fans..

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How do you figure?

**TheLetterZ** · 07-07-2004, 03:23 PM

Re: Am I the only one that thinks Steve Finley should be an All-Star?

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hulkster29 said:
Finley deserves to go over Abreu - sorry Philly fans..

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How do you figure?

**kweiss** · 07-07-2004, 04:07 PM

Re: Am I the only one that thinks Steve Finley should be an All-Star?

It's just so close between these guys.

Finley: ...298 AVG...358 OBP...21 HR...45 RBI
Abreu:....301 AVG...443 OBP...17 HR...57 RBI
Ramirez:.326 AVG...347 OBP...15 HR...56 RBI

As much as I would like to see Finley go, I really think it is between Abreu and Ramirez.

**kweiss** · 07-07-2004, 04:07 PM

Re: Am I the only one that thinks Steve Finley should be an All-Star?

It's just so close between these guys.

Finley: ...298 AVG...358 OBP...21 HR...45 RBI
Abreu:....301 AVG...443 OBP...17 HR...57 RBI
Ramirez:.326 AVG...347 OBP...15 HR...56 RBI

As much as I would like to see Finley go, I really think it is between Abreu and Ramirez.

**kweiss** · 07-07-2004, 04:07 PM

Re: Am I the only one that thinks Steve Finley should be an All-Star?

It's just so close between these guys.

Finley: ...298 AVG...358 OBP...21 HR...45 RBI
Abreu:....301 AVG...443 OBP...17 HR...57 RBI
Ramirez:.326 AVG...347 OBP...15 HR...56 RBI

As much as I would like to see Finley go, I really think it is between Abreu and Ramirez.

**dieselboy** · 07-07-2004, 06:37 PM

Re: Am I the only one that thinks Steve Finley should be an All-Star?

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kweiss said:
It's just so close between these guys.

Finley: ...298 AVG...358 OBP...21 HR...45 RBI
Abreu:....301 AVG...443 OBP...17 HR...57 RBI
Ramirez:.326 AVG...347 OBP...15 HR...56 RBI

As much as I would like to see Finley go, I really think it is between Abreu and Ramirez.

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This shouldn't even be a competetion.

Bobby Abreu has a far better OPS than any of them.
Abreu = 1.010
Finley = .900
Ramirez = .924

Abreu's OPS is good for 9th in the Majors. He is ahead of Vlad Guerrero, Frank Thomas, Melvin Mora, Ivan Rodriguez, Hank Blalock, David Ortiz, Lyle Overbay, Adrian Beltre, etc, etc, etc.

Even without the OPS, if you compare the stats that Kweiss compared above, HRs, AVG, RBI, and OBP, those numbers are very similar. But then when you add to the fact that Abreu has 17 SB, good for 4th best in the NL, compared to Ramirez's zero, and Finley's seven, he has to be the choice. Oh, and he has 13 more runs than Finley, and eight more than Ramirez.

Abreu is the choice, sorry.

**dieselboy** · 07-07-2004, 06:37 PM

Re: Am I the only one that thinks Steve Finley should be an All-Star?

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kweiss said:
It's just so close between these guys.

Finley: ...298 AVG...358 OBP...21 HR...45 RBI
Abreu:....301 AVG...443 OBP...17 HR...57 RBI
Ramirez:.326 AVG...347 OBP...15 HR...56 RBI

As much as I would like to see Finley go, I really think it is between Abreu and Ramirez.

<hr /></blockquote>

This shouldn't even be a competetion.

Bobby Abreu has a far better OPS than any of them.
Abreu = 1.010
Finley = .900
Ramirez = .924

Abreu's OPS is good for 9th in the Majors. He is ahead of Vlad Guerrero, Frank Thomas, Melvin Mora, Ivan Rodriguez, Hank Blalock, David Ortiz, Lyle Overbay, Adrian Beltre, etc, etc, etc.

Even without the OPS, if you compare the stats that Kweiss compared above, HRs, AVG, RBI, and OBP, those numbers are very similar. But then when you add to the fact that Abreu has 17 SB, good for 4th best in the NL, compared to Ramirez's zero, and Finley's seven, he has to be the choice. Oh, and he has 13 more runs than Finley, and eight more than Ramirez.

Abreu is the choice, sorry.

**dieselboy** · 07-07-2004, 06:37 PM

Re: Am I the only one that thinks Steve Finley should be an All-Star?

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kweiss said:
It's just so close between these guys.

Finley: ...298 AVG...358 OBP...21 HR...45 RBI
Abreu:....301 AVG...443 OBP...17 HR...57 RBI
Ramirez:.326 AVG...347 OBP...15 HR...56 RBI

As much as I would like to see Finley go, I really think it is between Abreu and Ramirez.

<hr /></blockquote>

This shouldn't even be a competetion.

Bobby Abreu has a far better OPS than any of them.
Abreu = 1.010
Finley = .900
Ramirez = .924

Abreu's OPS is good for 9th in the Majors. He is ahead of Vlad Guerrero, Frank Thomas, Melvin Mora, Ivan Rodriguez, Hank Blalock, David Ortiz, Lyle Overbay, Adrian Beltre, etc, etc, etc.

Even without the OPS, if you compare the stats that Kweiss compared above, HRs, AVG, RBI, and OBP, those numbers are very similar. But then when you add to the fact that Abreu has 17 SB, good for 4th best in the NL, compared to Ramirez's zero, and Finley's seven, he has to be the choice. Oh, and he has 13 more runs than Finley, and eight more than Ramirez.

Abreu is the choice, sorry.

**TheLetterZ** · 07-07-2004, 07:41 PM

Re: Am I the only one that thinks Steve Finley should be an All-Star?

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dieselboy said:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
kweiss said:
It's just so close between these guys.

Finley: ...298 AVG...358 OBP...21 HR...45 RBI
Abreu:....301 AVG...443 OBP...17 HR...57 RBI
Ramirez:.326 AVG...347 OBP...15 HR...56 RBI

As much as I would like to see Finley go, I really think it is between Abreu and Ramirez.

<hr /></blockquote>

This shouldn't even be a competetion.

Bobby Abreu has a far better OPS than any of them.
Abreu = 1.010
Finley = .900
Ramirez = .924

Abreu's OPS is good for 9th in the Majors. He is ahead of Vlad Guerrero, Frank Thomas, Melvin Mora, Ivan Rodriguez, Hank Blalock, David Ortiz, Lyle Overbay, Adrian Beltre, etc, etc, etc.

Even without the OPS, if you compare the stats that Kweiss compared above, HRs, AVG, RBI, and OBP, those numbers are very similar. But then when you add to the fact that Abreu has 17 SB, good for 4th best in the NL, compared to Ramirez's zero, and Finley's seven, he has to be the choice. Oh, and he has 13 more runs than Finley, and eight more than Ramirez.

Abreu is the choice, sorry.

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And if you're into Sabermetrics at all, Bobby's 4th in the NL in VORP, 3rd in Win Shares, and 2nd in RARP.

**TheLetterZ** · 07-07-2004, 07:41 PM

Re: Am I the only one that thinks Steve Finley should be an All-Star?

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dieselboy said:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
kweiss said:
It's just so close between these guys.

Finley: ...298 AVG...358 OBP...21 HR...45 RBI
Abreu:....301 AVG...443 OBP...17 HR...57 RBI
Ramirez:.326 AVG...347 OBP...15 HR...56 RBI

As much as I would like to see Finley go, I really think it is between Abreu and Ramirez.

<hr /></blockquote>

This shouldn't even be a competetion.

Bobby Abreu has a far better OPS than any of them.
Abreu = 1.010
Finley = .900
Ramirez = .924

Abreu's OPS is good for 9th in the Majors. He is ahead of Vlad Guerrero, Frank Thomas, Melvin Mora, Ivan Rodriguez, Hank Blalock, David Ortiz, Lyle Overbay, Adrian Beltre, etc, etc, etc.

Even without the OPS, if you compare the stats that Kweiss compared above, HRs, AVG, RBI, and OBP, those numbers are very similar. But then when you add to the fact that Abreu has 17 SB, good for 4th best in the NL, compared to Ramirez's zero, and Finley's seven, he has to be the choice. Oh, and he has 13 more runs than Finley, and eight more than Ramirez.

Abreu is the choice, sorry.

<hr /></blockquote>

And if you're into Sabermetrics at all, Bobby's 4th in the NL in VORP, 3rd in Win Shares, and 2nd in RARP.

**TheLetterZ** · 07-07-2004, 07:41 PM

Re: Am I the only one that thinks Steve Finley should be an All-Star?

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dieselboy said:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
kweiss said:
It's just so close between these guys.

Finley: ...298 AVG...358 OBP...21 HR...45 RBI
Abreu:....301 AVG...443 OBP...17 HR...57 RBI
Ramirez:.326 AVG...347 OBP...15 HR...56 RBI

As much as I would like to see Finley go, I really think it is between Abreu and Ramirez.

<hr /></blockquote>

This shouldn't even be a competetion.

Bobby Abreu has a far better OPS than any of them.
Abreu = 1.010
Finley = .900
Ramirez = .924

Abreu's OPS is good for 9th in the Majors. He is ahead of Vlad Guerrero, Frank Thomas, Melvin Mora, Ivan Rodriguez, Hank Blalock, David Ortiz, Lyle Overbay, Adrian Beltre, etc, etc, etc.

Even without the OPS, if you compare the stats that Kweiss compared above, HRs, AVG, RBI, and OBP, those numbers are very similar. But then when you add to the fact that Abreu has 17 SB, good for 4th best in the NL, compared to Ramirez's zero, and Finley's seven, he has to be the choice. Oh, and he has 13 more runs than Finley, and eight more than Ramirez.

Abreu is the choice, sorry.

<hr /></blockquote>

And if you're into Sabermetrics at all, Bobby's 4th in the NL in VORP, 3rd in Win Shares, and 2nd in RARP.

**Gagnon39** · 07-07-2004, 07:48 PM

Re: Am I the only one that thinks Steve Finley should be an All-Star?

I think Steve should be an all star. I don't know what he's done this year but he's from my home town and played high school ball 5 miles from my house.

**Gagnon39** · 07-07-2004, 07:48 PM

Re: Am I the only one that thinks Steve Finley should be an All-Star?

I think Steve should be an all star. I don't know what he's done this year but he's from my home town and played high school ball 5 miles from my house.

Am I the only one that thinks Steve Finley should be an All-Star?

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