Posada for Big Unit?

[devilsjaw]

Re: Posada for Big Unit?

What is a true Yankee anyways? Don't mean to vent on you Sportsman but i'm so sick of people talking about the Yankees like they're above everyone else.

Well, Posada is one the few guys (Jeter, Rivera are others) that actually came through the Yankee system, instead of being poached from another team...

[RoyalBoyle78]

Re: Posada for Big Unit?

I hope not. Posada is one of my favorite Yankees.

ask yourself this, where the hell was Posada in the playoffs this year.

[RoyalBoyle78]

Re: Posada for Big Unit?

I hope not. Posada is one of my favorite Yankees.

ask yourself this, where the hell was Posada in the playoffs this year.

[3rdAnswer]

Re: Posada for Big Unit?

ask yourself this, where the hell was Posada in the playoffs this year.

Non-existant.

[3rdAnswer]

Re: Posada for Big Unit?

ask yourself this, where the hell was Posada in the playoffs this year.

Non-existant.

[CMH]

Re: Posada for Big Unit?

Navarro is a year or two away from contributing as a starter.

As for letting go of Posada, I'm all for it. I watch him play everyday, and trust me, he's not that good. He goes into very long slumps, isn't very good defensively (despite improving), strikes out way too much, and doesn't do much in the clutch.

It's being rumord that Kendall will replace him, which I wouldn't mind, since he's a good contact hitter, which is something the Yankees need with the 100+ strikeouts from A-Rod, Jeter, Matsui and Giambi.

You, sir, are spoiled.

Look at the stats. Posada is one of the best offensive catchers in the game. Who cares how many slumps he gets into. They are far less than the ones a majority of the catchers in the league go through. There is only one catcher better than Posada offensively in the AL - Ivan Rodriguez. And with Piazza slipping offensively more and more every year, Posada might even be the second best offensive catcher in baseball.

Defensively, yes, Posada isn't that great. He's actually terrible. If it weren't for Piazza, Posada would be the worst defensive catcher in the Northeast. However, as much as defense matters at catcher, the Yankees have a strong defensive prospect in Navarro and if Torre had any brain, he'd slide Navarro into the lineup late in the game.

[CMH]

Re: Posada for Big Unit?

Navarro is a year or two away from contributing as a starter.

As for letting go of Posada, I'm all for it. I watch him play everyday, and trust me, he's not that good. He goes into very long slumps, isn't very good defensively (despite improving), strikes out way too much, and doesn't do much in the clutch.

It's being rumord that Kendall will replace him, which I wouldn't mind, since he's a good contact hitter, which is something the Yankees need with the 100+ strikeouts from A-Rod, Jeter, Matsui and Giambi.

You, sir, are spoiled.

Look at the stats. Posada is one of the best offensive catchers in the game. Who cares how many slumps he gets into. They are far less than the ones a majority of the catchers in the league go through. There is only one catcher better than Posada offensively in the AL - Ivan Rodriguez. And with Piazza slipping offensively more and more every year, Posada might even be the second best offensive catcher in baseball.

Defensively, yes, Posada isn't that great. He's actually terrible. If it weren't for Piazza, Posada would be the worst defensive catcher in the Northeast. However, as much as defense matters at catcher, the Yankees have a strong defensive prospect in Navarro and if Torre had any brain, he'd slide Navarro into the lineup late in the game.

[SPTO]

Re: Posada for Big Unit?

What is a true Yankee anyways? Don't mean to vent on you Sportsman but i'm so sick of people talking about the Yankees like they're above everyone else.

Devilsjaw said it for me. Posada is one of the guys that came up through the system and has been there through thick and thin (mostly the good times) He's one of the better offensive catchers around and he does seem to be one of the leaders in the clubhouse so i'd try to keep him with the Yanks.

[SPTO]

Re: Posada for Big Unit?

What is a true Yankee anyways? Don't mean to vent on you Sportsman but i'm so sick of people talking about the Yankees like they're above everyone else.

Devilsjaw said it for me. Posada is one of the guys that came up through the system and has been there through thick and thin (mostly the good times) He's one of the better offensive catchers around and he does seem to be one of the leaders in the clubhouse so i'd try to keep him with the Yanks.

[deeman11747]

Re: Posada for Big Unit?

A few things:


First of all... Posada is Jeter's best friend on the team so I doubt it would be done without Jeter's input.

Second, I don't like Navarro as our catcher. There is a reason the D-Backs wouldnt accept him as part of a deadline Johnson deal. They say he's a fantastic defender... but a terrible hitter (hence his name "Pudgito" meaning Little Pudge).

Posada is one of my favorite Yankees... he was there through the dynasty years... and I feel this "team" is becoming less of a "Team" as we keep losing guys from those years.

Ask me to take Tino over a healthy Giambi right now.... and I'd say yes... I'd even take Paulie ofver Sheffield (well maybe not that far) but that "core" needs to stay together.

Posada leaving would also have an effect in our terrible SP as he's known as one of the best at calling games in the league.Thats what many dont realize... the catcher is doing more than blocking balls in the dirt and throwing out runners. They are usually calling the pitch (and just suggesting it for the more controlling SP) and what they call has a huge effect on the pitchers.

I don't like this deal unless its for Hudson. I'd rather have Posada for another 4-6 years than Johnson for 1-2 but thats just me.

[deeman11747]

Re: Posada for Big Unit?

A few things:


First of all... Posada is Jeter's best friend on the team so I doubt it would be done without Jeter's input.

Second, I don't like Navarro as our catcher. There is a reason the D-Backs wouldnt accept him as part of a deadline Johnson deal. They say he's a fantastic defender... but a terrible hitter (hence his name "Pudgito" meaning Little Pudge).

Posada is one of my favorite Yankees... he was there through the dynasty years... and I feel this "team" is becoming less of a "Team" as we keep losing guys from those years.

Ask me to take Tino over a healthy Giambi right now.... and I'd say yes... I'd even take Paulie ofver Sheffield (well maybe not that far) but that "core" needs to stay together.

Posada leaving would also have an effect in our terrible SP as he's known as one of the best at calling games in the league.Thats what many dont realize... the catcher is doing more than blocking balls in the dirt and throwing out runners. They are usually calling the pitch (and just suggesting it for the more controlling SP) and what they call has a huge effect on the pitchers.

I don't like this deal unless its for Hudson. I'd rather have Posada for another 4-6 years than Johnson for 1-2 but thats just me.

[Stu]

Re: Posada for Big Unit?

Devilsjaw said it for me. Posada is one of the guys that came up through the system and has been there through thick and thin (mostly the good times) He's one of the better offensive catchers around and he does seem to be one of the leaders in the clubhouse so i'd try to keep him with the Yanks.

Yah I understand what you mean and agree with you. I just have a ton of friends who are Yankees fans and they're always talking about the "Yankee way" and all this nonsense like the Yankees players are better people than everyone else. Guess I'm just a little defensive.

[Stu]

Re: Posada for Big Unit?

Devilsjaw said it for me. Posada is one of the guys that came up through the system and has been there through thick and thin (mostly the good times) He's one of the better offensive catchers around and he does seem to be one of the leaders in the clubhouse so i'd try to keep him with the Yanks.

Yah I understand what you mean and agree with you. I just have a ton of friends who are Yankees fans and they're always talking about the "Yankee way" and all this nonsense like the Yankees players are better people than everyone else. Guess I'm just a little defensive.

[Stu]

Re: Posada for Big Unit?

A few things:

Posada leaving would also have an effect in our terrible SP as he's known as one of the best at calling games in the league.Thats what many dont realize... the catcher is doing more than blocking balls in the dirt and throwing out runners. They are usually calling the pitch (and just suggesting it for the more controlling SP) and what they call has a huge effect on the pitchers.

Calling the games is probably the most underrated aspect of catchers. This is why Varitek will be able to demand a high price in the offseason, as he is also known as one of the best.

Because of his ability to call games the Yankees would be crazy to get rid of Posada despite the slight decline in his offense.

[Stu]

Re: Posada for Big Unit?

A few things:

Posada leaving would also have an effect in our terrible SP as he's known as one of the best at calling games in the league.Thats what many dont realize... the catcher is doing more than blocking balls in the dirt and throwing out runners. They are usually calling the pitch (and just suggesting it for the more controlling SP) and what they call has a huge effect on the pitchers.

Calling the games is probably the most underrated aspect of catchers. This is why Varitek will be able to demand a high price in the offseason, as he is also known as one of the best.

Because of his ability to call games the Yankees would be crazy to get rid of Posada despite the slight decline in his offense.